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Paul Scott targets transgendered people in race for Secretary of State

By Todd A. Heywood | 01.21.10 | 6:50 am

State Rep. Paul Scott, (R-Grand Blanc), announced his candidacy for the GOP nomination for Secretary of State just five days ago, but he’s already caused a shock wave.

Scott, who just completed the first year of his first two-year term in the state House, is rankling feathers with a promise he made in his Jan. 15 announcement letter, which listed four top policy priorities, including:

· I will make it a priority to ensure transgender individuals will not be allowed to change the sex on their driver’s license in any circumstance

PaulScottIn an interview with Michigan Messenger, Scott said the issue was about “values.”

“It’s a social values issue. If you are born a male, you should be known as a male. Same as with a female, she should be known as a female,” he said.

When asked to explain how such a mandate from the Secretary of State would benefit Michigan, he said it was about “preventing people who are males genetically from dressing as a woman and going into female bathrooms.”

While Scott is aware that federal courts have ruled that gender dysphoria, the medical diagnosis for transgender persons, was a disability, he said he did not think he would run afoul of discrimination laws. For the 27-year-old state representative, the issue is about biological gender.

He said his mandate would be in place even for those who had completely undergone sex reassignment surgeries.

“That’s who you are. You can have cosmetic surgery or reassignment surgery but you are still that gender,” he said.

Scott will square off with former state Sen. and Rep. Joanne Emmons, state Sens. Cameron Brown (R-Fawn River Twp.) and Michelle McManus (R-Lake Leelanau), and Calhoun County Clerk Anne Norlander for the post.

Scott’s comments brought immediate rebuttal from the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community.

“Representative Scott’s remarks indicate that he is not fit to serve the people of Michigan in this position,” said Julie Nemecek, a transgender activist from the Jackson area.

Nemecek made national headlines two years ago when Spring Arbor University fired her for being transgender. She sued the conservative, private Christian university in federal court and reached an out of court settlement.

“Transgender people are often in need of help by the Secretary of State’s office in updating documents to reflect the medical and surgical changes they go through,” she said.

Democratic candidate for the Secretary of State nomination Jocelyn Benson said Scott’s statement was meant to distract from “real issues.”

“I don’t mean to minimize this issue as unimportant,” Benson said. “I am more frustrated that this is being done to take a volatile issue and drive a debate in a way that energized a base. That it is just sort of more an attempt towards extremist issues.”

Benson said she supported the right of transgender residents to have their driver’s license and state identification cards reflect their gender expression.

“The American Medical Association and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, Inc. both highlight numerous mental, emotional and physical health dangers posed to transgender people when they do not receive the same care and respect that all other human beings receive,” said Alicia Skillman, executive director of Triangle Foundation, a Detroit based LGBT organization.

“Additionally, Michigan law allows for a person’s sex to be changed. The fact that anyone would launch a campaign flouting an existing law which seeks to protect Michigan residents from harm is truly disheartening.”

Phil Volk, chair of the Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, Transgender and Ally Caucus of the Michigan Democratic Party, says Scott’s shot across the bow of LGBT issues could signal a coming battle in an election year.

“In 2010 the key social issue in Michigan for the Republicans is to push back or stop or reverse LGBT issues,” Volk said. “The Republicans are going to make this an issue. They feel that they can frighten the average person that these transgender individuals are coming into their homes, their bathrooms, and have the rights to do what they want. It’s the old fear tactic.”

That tactic has had mixed results in Michigan. Voters in Hamtrammck voted down an anti-discrimination ordinance in November 2008 after a campaign against the ordinance focused largely on transgender issues. This past November, however, voters in Kalamazoo overwhelmingly rejected the “men in dresses in women’s bathrooms” tactic and approved a similar ordinance.

“This has been a consistent and pervasive organized approach. It appears that they believe this campaign of hate and exclusion will draw people to them,” said Nemecek. “This is an issue that many people do not understand, so it is very easy for the GOP to misrepresent transgender people and use fear and ignorance to generate hate.”

Some LGBT leaders are concerned that such campaigns could lead to more than just political drama.

“I think because the [LGBT] community is going to become a flash point for getting voters,” said Volk, “[Republicans are] going to go into a lot of churches and into a lot of teabaggers groups etc. and say, ‘be frightened of these people because…,’ and that is going to instigate a lot of violence. We are going to have to be very cautious in this area.”

Comments

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zoe-Ellen-Brain/1036085884 Zoe Ellen Brain

    Bigotry is arrogance, ignorance, and malice.

    Rep Scott confesses to being malicious “as a matter of principle”. That's not always a bad thing – I bear considerable malice to those who beat children to death, as a matter of principle.

    That he's arrogant is obvious by the fact that he's ignoring all the actual biologists and medics whose views contradict his own. He knows better, you see. Just because. Well, again, sometimes people do – but they better be prepared to prove it. Arrogance, while unpleasant, is excusable if you happen to be factually correct.

    Now onto the ignorance. Everyone knows that XY is male, XX is female, right? You get taught that in grade school. One problem: while that's usually true, not always. The concept of “genetically male” is biological nonsense.

    :”A 46,XY mother who developed as a normal woman underwent spontaneous puberty, reached menarche, menstruated regularly, experienced two unassisted pregnancies, and gave birth to a 46,XY daughter with complete gonadal dysgenesis.” – J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Jan;93(1):182-9.

    Look that up. It's on the web.

    While you're at it, look at how many men labelled “transgendered” were born with the usual 46XY chromosomes of men, but were surgically altered to look female shortly after birth, castrated, with artificial vaginas fashioned, because their genitalia was “ambiguous”, and as one surgeon famously put it, “it's easier making a hole than a pole”.

    The surgeons guess – and get it wrong, by their own admission, one time in 3. These men and women who revolt against this wrongness, and try to get it corrected as adults, are now to fall foul of this arrogant, malicious bigot's ignorance.

    Such cases are the exception rather than the norm. But they exist. That's why we have procedures, rarely invoked, that deal with them. People in this position already haven a hard enough row to hoe. Now some bigot is trying to make their lot even harder – just because he can. Just because of his lack of knowledge, and his arrogance in not bothering to have that lack corrected.

    What about those people – as in this story by CNN – who are born looking female, but masculinise later? There's thousands like them in the USA. It's rare, but not that rare.

    What's next – requirements for a genetic test before one gets a drivers licence? You see, fully 1 in 60 people are Intersexed in some way. At least 1 in 500 have genes that don't match their appearance.

    Rep Scott could well be one of them. Most don't know, you see.

  • Renee_Knipe

    Three things come to mind with this:

    1). How does he propose to actually make this happen? If a transgender woman walks into an SoS office with an F on her birth certificate and asks for a replacement driver's license, exactly how are they going to deny her? Unless she's particularly not “passable”, there'd be no reason to question the request and just provide her with a new, properly updated, driver's license.

    2). He'll have some trouble managing his staff. Michigan already has some of the most difficult requirements for getting the gender marker on your license changed (your birth certificate has to match, which does require genital corrective surgery). But it's well-known that sympathetic SoS employees will bend the rules for you.

    3). How does your driver's license impact your bathroom choices? There's no law on the books that enforces the cultural segregation of men and women from restroom spaces, and last time I checked using the toilet didn't require being carded. My driver's license still has the odious M on it and I've been using women's restrooms without incident for two years now. Again, the only people affected negatively by this are the women who would be considered less “passable”, which sucks.

    I'd know this is just extremist politic rhetoric designed to solidify a certain segment of the voter base, but sheesh, I hate having my identity politicized. Who deserves to have who they are tabled in front of everyone for open discussion and debate? Historically speaking, I think it's obvious that no one does…and that we haven't learned anything in the last couple hundred years.

  • rextrek1

    ..and this idiot just cements further my reasoning for NEVER going to Michigan with ALL thier anti-LGBT laws..why spend my tourism dollars in a state that Hates me…..no thank u!

    • kitkitschy

      Actually, there are many LGBT groups and people in high places- and there's a huge gay population and culture here. Just FYI, in case you'd like to investigate the flip side of this story. This is the exception, not the rule.

  • rextrek1

    I say Mr Paul Scott be put on the NO FLY LIST – he looks like a terrorist….I mean, no harm Mr Scott…it's a “Values” thing.

  • joanneproctor

    “That’s who you are. You can have cosmetic surgery or reassignment surgery but you are still that gender,” he said.

    It might help this individual's decision making and education were he to learn the difference between biological or physiological 'sex' and social 'gender'. The former being what you are born with: the latter being largely 'acquired' by acculturation and socialization

    Paul Scott would be better informed and better able to make values judgments if he made that simple distinction.

    Ms. Brain (above) is perfectly correct. Between 3 and 5 babies are surgically altered in the US every day to force them into compliance with Scott's beliefs.

    Medically the process is known as pediatric gender assignment. Slightly more than 30% of those kids reject their so-called assignment in adolescence or early adulthood!

    In most cases the surgeries cannot be undone. How does Mr Scott propose to replace the organs that were removed?

    OII-NZ.

  • Radgal

    This guy is little Hitler in the making. He wants to use transgendered people as a scapegoat and in the process get himself some political job. People should be wary of anyone who employs such tactics.

  • camerongarcia

    Anyone CAN walk into any bathroom to use it. I have yet to see a Male or Female drawing on a bathroom door actually provide the protection that Mr Scott seems to desire.
    Maybe we should ban ALL children of different genders from entering the bathroom of the opposite parent, such as dressing after swimming at the local pool.
    How about prohibiting Male Nurses from taking care of a female patient because they may be attacked, or even having female Nurses from taking care of Male patients, why the list could go on and on,
    HOW about having Males take care of Males; and Females take care of Females?

  • anon9999

    too bad he's a moron, he's pretty cute

  • DP09

    this man is disgusting! how about concentrating your political agenda on people who need help… like the homeless… people with no health care… people who have been completely chewed up by the system… no i am sorry that would be waaay to much to ask….

    man…. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME THIS PERSON IS…. Michigan why did you vote him in???

    • RiannaHumble

      Nazis have never been concerned about people who need help – apart from a determination to destroy them, why should this specific Nazi be any different?

      One thing, unfortunately, that many Nazis have in common is the ability to sway voters with their sophistry. It would seem that a majority of voters in Michigan were swayed by this particular Nazi.

  • lakesound

    Doesn't Michigan have bigger problems than this?

  • ansemaru

    It's hard to believe that anyone could even think to run on such a platform of wrongheaded bigotry in this day and age. Wasting time and money on invalidating the identities of harmless citizens is no way to become successful or liked. He's disenfranchising transgendered people, allies, and indeed ANY thinking citizens of his state. And it's disgusting that he can continue to run on such a platform. Politicians are supposed to do things to help the populace.

    I'm doubly disgusted, as I'm a young transgendered person myself. Though I don't live in Michigan, this has an impact on me, regardless. Paul Scott's clearly bigoted policies must not be allowed to set a precedent, or they may bring about further restrictions that further damage and marginalize the identities of people like me. Remember that dehumanization is a step in a very wrong direction. I wouldn't want to go around with a big F-for-born-female pinned to my coat.

  • kevinlibby

    This person clearly has a firm grasp on the issues that most affect his constituents. Bravo. This is why you have to be 35 to run for President; hopefully Scott will have a better appreciation for the public he serves by his 2020 Presidential Campaign. (if he's still in the party) And now an aside on understanding people who are different:

    Statement 1: It would make me uncomfortable if a stranger of a different gender identity tried to touch me in a bathroom.

    FALSE. It would make me uncomfortable if any stranger tried to touch me in a bathroom.

    Statement 2: Black people like fried chicken.
    FALSE. Everyone likes fried chicken. Even the chicken.

    Statement 3: The Irish are drunks.
    FALSE. Everyone is drunk and you're a square.

    Statement 4: There are scarier things out there than equal rights under the law.
    TRUTH. Have you ever watched the Disney channel?

    • mandylynn1027

      hilarious. this comment is the most amusing thing i've ever read. and true.

  • oopster74

    I'd like to know how many people this would affect?

    I don't think it would be all that many in the area he represents, so I think the voters should be asking “why is he spending so much time on an issue that affects so few people”.

    • chibicthulhu

      unfortunately it would probably affect more people then you'd think. there is no hard data on the numbers of transgendered individuals in this country and very many of us go underground (so to speak) after surgery or as we transition. the thing that sickens me the most is how his rhetoric will likely inflame discrimination issues nationwide, if your curious about violence against transgendered individuals just google it… but i warn you keep a barf bag handy… you can only read about mans inhumanity towards man for so long before your ill.

      • oopster74

        I think you've missed my point there. I know about violence to trans people all too well, being TS myself. What I mean is, he's going to use a large percentage of his time to deal with a “problem” that doens't need fixing, when he should be spending his time fixing other things that affect far more people. By doing this, he's only storing up problems for later, but he's doing the usual easy politics.

    • JeanDavis

      You are absolutely correct on this one, there are more important issues to deal with. It just goes to show how small minded this person is.

  • johannalohrmann

    I think this guy should have similar strictures imposed on him.
    He should be required to WEAR his clown make-up and suit whenever he appears in public. How else are we to determine his character without listening to his hate speech?

  • echamberlain

    The drivers license is a form of identification and this guy wants the identifying information to be deliberately false?

    The cops aren't doing genetic testing when they stop people, so why would we want the license to not match the gender expression?

    If anything, in the interest of public safety, pre-op trans people should have two driver's licenses one for each gender identity, so they can present the matching one to law enforcement.

    Or in the interest of smaller government and privacy, why does the government need to know our gender? Name and photo should be sufficient.

  • JeanDavis

    Well I just wonder if this idiot has thought this through.

    What would happen to a transsexual that has had SRS and gets into trouble with the law. What jail/prison would this person go to, I would suspect that a transwoman would go to the mens prison. Now that would be funny having womens bras and panties in the mens prison laundry. But seriously it wouldn't work, they would have to build new prisons/jails for transpeople across the country. I think we all know what would happen if they placed a trans person in with their birth gender, it wouldn't be pretty and there would be law suites flying all over.

    I say get rid of this idiot before he does any real damage.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zoe-Ellen-Brain/1036085884 Zoe Ellen Brain

      In jails they do one of 2 things – either put them in windowless rooms with no books, no cards, no writing implements, and let them out once every 3 days to shower – basically short-term punishment that has been deemed “cruel and unusual” for murderers, rapists etc – but fine as a permanent state of affairs for intersexed people – or put them in the general population, where they're raped until they finally suicide or get murdered.
      There's plenty of caselaw dealing with both. Recently one transwoman was put in solitary for months while awaiting trial. She pleaded guilty just to make the torture stop. But then they ignored the judge's order and kept her in solitary “for administrative reasons” until another judge made them relent. By then she was only fit for a psychiatric hospital.

  • svelte_brunette

    “When asked to explain how such a mandate from the Secretary of State would benefit Michigan, he said it was about “preventing people who are males genetically from dressing as a woman and going into female bathrooms.”

    “He said his mandate would be in place even for those who had completely undergone sex reassignment surgeries.

    “That’s who you are. You can have cosmetic surgery or reassignment surgery but you are still that gender,” he said.”

    Well Mr. Scott, let’s presume for the moment that your trans-bashing campaign leads to electoral success, and you’ve implemented your license and genetic bathroom policy.

    You have now guaranteed that those balding, fully-bearded, gravely-voiced, testosterone injecting transmen who go around wearing men’s clothes and using the men’s restrooms with their all-too-feminine XX chromosomes are now done harassing innocent genetic males and are safely back in the women’s restroom where they belong.

    Wow. What are you going to do for your next trick?

    There are tens of thousands of transmen and transwomen throughout this country, living their lives peacefully for decades and somehow managing to figure out which bathroom to use. We are engineers, doctors, lawyers, chefs, nurses, brokers, writers, professors, and even rocket scientists, not to mention, taxpayers. We drive our cars with licenses and we go to the restroom with them, although I have yet to get carded before going into a restroom.

    The triadic treatment regimen for Gender Identity Disorder has not changed significantly since Christine Jorgensen transitioned nearly 60 years ago. The methods used with her were standardized and published in 1979 as the “Harry Benjamin Standards of Care.” They involve a diagnostic process to weed out those who are not actually transsexual, and then, if conditions warrant, a treatment program involving talk therapy, hormones, and eventually surgery so the person can function better in society. This regimen has remained relatively unchanged for over half a century because it is highly successful, whereas other treatments, such as aversion therapy (now euphemistically referred to as “reparative therapy”) and even shock therapy simply do not work over the long term.

    This is the 21st century Mr. Scott. When you talk about people with reassignment surgery you are talking about people with a well known, well documented, and quite treatable medical condition. Most people in this country like to have a little bit of privacy about their medical history. By forcing the letter of YOUR choice onto someone else’s driver’s license, you deny them the opportunity to keep that medical history private, and expose them to even more harassment than they’ve undoubtedly already suffered.

    But hey, who cares if a bunch of transsexuals have to suffer, as long as you get elected, right?

    Glad I didn’t take Ford’s job offer at their EMC test facility in Romeo, Michigan.

    Cynthia

    • JeanDavis

      Yes, enter the bathroom police. They'll stand at every bathroom and with their genitic scanners tell you which bathroom to use. lol I'm sorry but I'm starting to find this very funny, Mr. Paul Scott (or perhaps Miss Scott, you never know. perhaps we should check the DNA) should drop this before he gets laughed out of Washington. If he continues I'm sure that he'll get people laughing at him behind his back. I already am.

  • margova

    I wrote Mr. Scott a nice, long email. Maybe he can be reasoned with.. if not, that makes him un-reasonable. I did remind him that President Obama has appointed a Trans-female to his staff.. that Mr. Scott should consider spending his time, energy and money on something more worthwhile such as, keeping the sex offenders and pedophiles off the streets.. in lieu of trying to fight a battle that he'll be losing from the get-go.. such as messing with those of us who were born brain and body incongruent. That, if he was born with a matching brain and body, he should consider himself fortunate.. and not penalize those of us who weren't as fortunate. I'll be surprised if he has what it takes to reply. I shall not hold my breath.. haha!

    • UMLawGirl07

      Well, if you get a response, you'll be doing better than I. Like Mr. Scott, I attended (but unlike him, I actually graduated from) the University of Michigan Law school. So, I — as President and Board Chair of the Triangle Foundation — wrote to him at his UM email address and invoked our shared law school in a hope of getting him to sit down and discuss this with me. He's never responded.

      In my opinion, he will not only lose the SoS office, but he'll lose his current job as a Representative. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

      • margova

        Well, he's 27 years of age.. and while he is 'formally' educated and in the governmental position in which he is, he should gain some knowledge outside of his crib. He's got his own shallow little opinions about issues, based on mere speculation @ best.. or maybe even, just what he's learned from his mommy and daddy. Having someone as himself in a position that carries as much responsibility as the one he's in, kind of scares me. It's almost like handing a 2 y/o baby a locked and loaded semi-automatic handgun to play with. Sure those women he's running up against, even though they're Republican, can whip him. Heres hoping. He's not smarter than the medical professionals but, he seems to think he must be. By trying to keep 'genetic males from dressin as women and entering women's restrooms' is utterly rediculous. He's throwing out the baby with the bath water.. not to mention the fact that he's singling out “genetic males”.. as they aren't the only one's who get sex-changes. Just yet, another tell-tale sign, of many.. that he needs to get educated. But, that takes a willing heart.. and his isn't willing, seemingly. That make him just that much more scary. His bio say's that he is from a GM family. That speaks volumes!

  • MsUSA

    This Paul Scott sounds like a damn nut! It really sounds like he's had a relationship with one of them and it all went south. It's sort of like those so called straight guys that attack gay guys for being gay, when in actuality they have surpressed feelings about themselves that they are really attacking. Maybe we should look a bit deeper into his background. He's clearly hiding something. Who in their right mind would really waste time going after these people? Nobody. Who gives a shit? People that have someting to hde!

  • translegalhistorian

    I am curious as to what is necessary to trigger expulsion from the U of Michigan law school?

    After all, what he's saying in essence is that he plans not to uphold whatever oath he would take upon becoming Michigan SOS, given that – presumably – the oath requires upholding the law.

    While he might be able to unilaterally impede the lives of pre-ops, if he unilaterally decides not to recognize the reality of the transitions of pos-ops, he would be – by administrative fiat – declaring that the Michigan transsexual birth certificate statute is a law that he doesn't have to abide by.

    Can someone in Michigan investigate the possibility of derailing this guy's path not only to the SOS post but also to even becoming a lawyer?

  • MELISS682COMB

    YEAH… ABOUT THAT DRIVER'S LICENSE THING… I HOPE THE ISSUE STAYS WITH GENDER. I LIVE AS, & AM THE SAME GENDER AS, MY LICENSE SAYS I AM. WHEW! LUCKY ME!
    NOW AS FOR MY HEIGHT, WEIGHT, HAIR COLOUR, & EYE COLOUR… I HOPE THIS “GENTLEMAN” NEVER GETS REALLY BOARD!!!

  • jennifermbarge

    Okay- Is there not more important issues in every state and the whole country other than stopping a person born male from wearing a dress to use the restroom? I transitioned early in my life and I really feel with the way I look the re would be a bigger problem if I used the male bathroom with how I look…it seems to me the people who think the intent to go into the womens bathroom for perverted reasons are the same ones who stomp their foot in the male bathroom stalls to get the attention of the person next to them…This is crazy yet also sad that Mr. Scoott can not be more creative with his hatred…Jennifer M. Barge out and proud trans woman….who has a f on her drivers license

  • jamienoel

    With his proposal, a woman who has a sex change to a man with a fully functional wiener full of testosterone and a full beard can walk right into a women's restroom because he still has a license that says Female since it couldn't be changed.

    Bud, you are going to do more harm than good. But hey, it's legal, right? I mean the guy with the full beard and standing up to pee has a women's license because it couldn't be changed to male, so what's the big deal?

    Stuff like that will be ok though. I'm sure it won't even make the news.

  • aurawillowhazel

    ok what the hell? does this cretinous imbecilic buffoon not even know there is a difference between gender and sex. Genetic code is more complex than that, as are the neurological pathways that biologists now state are as major a sex organ as any genitalia. What about people with genetic chimerism, ambiguos genetalia, hermaphroditism? what makes a pratt who cannot even avoid getting kicked out of the education system become deluded enough to think he knows better than generations of medical science and the people who are in posession of the bodies themselves? He will destroy tourism to the state, make it a laughing stock in order to try to pass an unconstitutional law. Bravo sir your mother must be sooo proud to have introduced such a closedminded, arrogant, shortsighted, fool into the world. Please sir never reproduce and if you do please do not even consider raising the child. leave that to a bone fide human being as monsters are not known for their childrearing abilities.

  • Bourne2bwild

    I love all of these comments! You are all anti-hate and I love it! Paul Scott will not make it very far. At all!

  • Bourne2bwild

    I love all of these comments! You are all anti-hate and I love it! Paul Scott will not make it very far. At all!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2UJBCD5ZD2PY6ARV7DR6JUNJD4 rev.tjchase

    The republicans and churches are one in the same. Both advocate hatred and prejudice and keep our society from being more civil. Not only are they unenlightened but the lowest scum. they truly are the” dark con of man”