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By Sam Inglot | 08.17.11 | 8:23 am

Michigan can expect a push in the state legislature to pass Right to Work legislation following the end of the summer break at the capitol.

Right to Work laws would allow for workers who do not want to be members of a union to have that ability and not be required to pay union dues. However, many who support unions claim this creates a “free rider” situation where workers can not pay dues and still receive the benefits of the union’s collective bargaining.

Last summer, Gov. Rick Snyder was asked if he would support turning Michigan into a Right to Work state and he replied, “I would sign it, but I wouldn’t put it on my agenda.” He may soon get the chance to sign such legislation.

Two bills have been introduced regarding Right to Work, SB 116 and SB 120, both back in February. They called for Right to Work zones which would allow different counties to pass their own Right to Work laws if they chose. Neither has had any legislation action taken.

Sen. Arlan B. Meekhof (R-West Olive) was the main sponsor of SB 116 and says RTW “creates an atmosphere where people are willing to invest.”

“I think that we can agree that unions have had their day and have actually brought about some very good things when workers were mistreated,” said Meekhof. “But now I think they have overreached and they are actually sometimes in the way of being more productive and allowing people to work up to their ability and get compensated for the fact that they can do more or created more.”

Jonathan Byrd works for the Michigan Laborers Council, an AFL-CIO affiliate, and said RTW is just another attack on organized labor by Republicans who have corporate interests in mind.

He said it’s not surprising to have Republicans be the main pushers for RTW.

“Look at who funds the two groups (Democrats and Republicans). It’s not really rocket science when you have people like the Koch brothers and very wealthy conservatives pushing a fundamentalist agenda, which is to weaken labor unions.”

Right to Work exists in 22 other states and both Meekhof and Byrd agreed it’s a “flashpoint” issue, which may be why Snyder did not want to push for the legislation.

“I think the governor actually does have bigger issues that are less divisive that he thinks need to be done to move Michigan in the direction he wants to go,” said Byrd. “I don’t think he wants to have the type of labor animosity that has gone on in Wisconsin and a Right to Work fight would certainly do that and I think he is trying to avoid that at all costs.”

Byrd highlighted some issues that the union has with Right to Work.

“If you look at other states that have become Right to Work states their annual salaries are about five thousand dollars less [than those that are not], workplace fatalities go up, fewer people have health insurance, fewer people have pensions, basically it’s a way for corporations and big business to stifle labor unions in an attempt to keep wages low.”

Byrd said Right to Work has no benefit to it for the working class.

Rep. Mike Shirkey (R-Clark Lake) insists that unions are looking at “old data” if they believe Right to Work would put Michigan on the wrong track.

Shirkey said that there was a time in Michigan when Right to Work states had lower wages than highly unionized states, particularly Michigan’s manufacturing sector, but now businesses have moved to those Right to Work states over the years.

Shirkey, along with fellow Republican Sen. Patrick Colbeck (R-Canton), said he will be co-sponsoring a bill to push for statewide Right to Work legislation following the summer break.

“Labor Freedom: Where unions are as free to make their case as workers are to make their choice,” will be the slogan Shirkey plans to pitch to Michiganders.

Shirkey says he knows the issue is controversial but insists he can convince the opposition that RTW is right for Michigan.

“We’re going to take a different approach. We’re going to spend a lot of time on the education process, a lot of time in hearings and testimonies and a lot of time out in the public,” said Shirkey in an interview with Michigan Messenger. “I’m not underestimating how passionate the labor movement feels about this issue and that’s why we have to work very hard at winning the messaging side of it. One of my goals is to convince them that I think this is good for Michigan, good for jobs, good for families and good for unions.”

“I want unions to be absolutely free to make their free market case that they have a valued proposition to deliver to prospective union members and letting those prospective union members choose to belong, not forced to belong.”

Early this year Republicans and Gov. Snyder were able to easily pass a state budget many bills that drew heated criticism from Democrats. Byrd was asked whether he thought the same could happen with Right to Work.

“I think there is certainly a danger there. With Republicans in control of all four branches of state government, there is certainly that risk. However, I would say that there are still several moderate Republicans out there that want to focus on other issues and this isn’t a priority for them and I think there are many Republicans that would vote against Right to Work.”

Senate Democratic Leader Gretchen Whitmer has been an outspoken opponent of Right to Work in what she and other Democrats believe to be another attack on working class families.

“Michigan’s working families need to make their voices heard and tell these Republicans that Right to Work simply means Right to Work for less,” added Whitmer. “Republicans have already increased taxes on working families to pay for corporate tax cuts and it’s time we end this attack on the middle class and stand up for Michigan’s workforce.”

Comments

  • CarmanK

    Another step backwards for WORKERS in the State as well as in the nation. This type of legislation doesn’t move AMERICA forward to the 21st century, it takes the people backwards into the dark days of wide spread poverty and income disparity across the country. The AMERICAN people built a unique democracy: a constant struggle to balance mix of capitalism, social responsibility and idividual advancement. A form of govt that acted as the arbitrator between public and private sectori interrests. The Reaganites started 30 years ago to undo all that work, in order to advance the interests of transnational corporations whose lust for market share overcame loyalty to country. THEY took over the presidency, set the WALL STREET ROBBER BARONS free to prey on the american middle class and conducted two wars of choice to dominate world oil supplies. AMERICA is not an empire builder but BUSH/Cheney changed that. America is a democracy but the TPARTY wants its own NATION built on CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM as perceived by GROVER NORQUIST and gang. And MI is being built according to that image.

  • Anonymous

    As I am living in a RTW state, I enjoy the fact that I don’t have to pay union dues. I don’t want my money going to political coffers which all unions seem to do to some degree. I have also seen many examples of violent tendencies due to unions. Unions may have had some use many many many years ago but they now are a relic that deserves to be put in the corner for people to stare at and laugh. I happen to be lower middle to middle class.

    • Anonymous

      Unions are not allowed in MI to spend your dues money on political action unless you sign up for full membership.  You do not know what you are talking about.  I do not doubt, however, that you are lower middle to middle class in a RTW state.

      • Anonymous

        You are right, I do not know all the ins and outs of the internal workings of unions. I was in a union once when I worked at Kroger. It was the worst job related mistake of my life.

      • Anonymous

        If you knew the costs of things here you would understand why I am not considered upper middle class. Salaries and such are often dependent on various costs around the environment.

      • Anonymous

        Unions are allowed to spend forced union dues on “educational materials” which includes newsletters (which are full of political propaganda), and dues pay the salaries of union officials who transverse the country spitting their extreme views.  They demonize Republicans, lie about individual politicians, spout out their Socialist/Marxist/Communist rantings and ravings, and do everything they can to influence political races.  That sounds like using regular dues on politics to me.

        Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO is probably the most radical.  He has said that its time for the public to take over private corporations (communism), he called businesses who are currently earning a profit but not hiring, as committing “economic treason” (even though businesses are frozen due to Obama regulations and Obamacare), and finally on 9-27-65 he said during an interview that he did not become the president of the union to ‘negotiate wages’.  He saw it as a vehicle to bring about ‘mass social change for the lots of people.  Translation? He doesn’t give a hoot about his membership…he only cares about bringing Socialism and Marxism into the United States.

        Sorry to debunk your claim, but the truth must be told.

        • Anonymous

          Give me a break.  Newsletters packed with political propaganda, no, it’s newsletters full of pro-union propaganda.  Sorry that you hate socialism, as you write on an internet that was founded by public use with socialized resources.  Not the point though.

          Businesses and the top tax bracket are making more than ever before, and they WROTE Obamacare, so spare me the hard luck story.  It’s when union workers attempt to shoot themselves in the foot by being anti-union that they lose jobs, benefits, and everything else that makes this country great.

          Keep playing your buzzwords on socialism/marxism/communism.  You use them interchangeably without making a differentiation, and that tells us that you don’t know the difference.  Marx isn’t a dirty word, the elite classes gave it a bad connotation because they wanted to stay in power.  They used neoliberalism as a tool to get that power so as to keep workers at bay.  My claim is not debunked whatsoever, no political donations can come from service fees in Michigan.  Only from full membership fees.  Your characterization of “lying about politicians” etc, is not PAC money.  Unions have a vested interest in keeping politicians who will allow them to stay in existence.  But they do NOT donate using mandatory dues, only full membership dues. 

          Sorry to debunk your claims, but there is no such thing as truth, only perspective, and yours needs some work.

  • http://zeraland.wordpress.com/ Zera Lee

    Unions need to adapt to the current economic environment, but they are just as important and necessary as ever – and for the same reasons.

    Right To Work is a plank in the GOP Race to the Bottom platform as well as their totalitarian agenda.

  • Anonymous

    Zera, the ‘totalitarian agenda’ remark is a silly one. The GOP is not the party that you should be worried about if you are worried about totalitarianism. Unions are thugs that do nothing but harm the economy and overall the workers in them. Anytime you force someone to join a group, like a union, to be able to be employed at a company or industry you are placing limits on the individual and is much closer to being in a totalitarianism type society.

    • Anonymous

      Unions protect their workers from unfair labor practices, and give due process to employees that are unjustly dismissed.  Nobody in this nation is EVER forced to join a union.  If you do not want to join a union, simply do not work in a union shop.  Union shops consist of only about 10% of employment in this nation.  Nobody is forced to do anything.  Saying that you want to work in a union shop but not be in a union is like saying you want to work at McDonald’s but you don’t want to make french fries.  It’s a part of the job.

      • Anonymous

        Sadly, I think it’s more like 7%.

    • http://zeraland.wordpress.com/ Zera Lee

      Totalitarian:
      1. of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life.

      2. exercising control over the freedom, will, or thought of others; authoritarian; autocratic.

      The years-old GOP campaign of obstructionism, the birthers, the baseless accusations of “socialist” for enacting what were originally republican ideas, the baseless accusations of voter fraud whenever the GOP loses an election (especially a close one), the nation-wide campaign to suppress voter rights for partisan advantage, the economic war on the middle class and unions, their religious litmus tests for pursuing elected or appointed office through the GOP (in conservative defiance of the Constitution), and many other right-wing actions and policies all provide overwhelming evidence of an intolerance of liberal or progressive ideas and a commitment to achieve Carl Rove’s goal of complete republican control of the government for generations.

      The social conservative movement exists for the sole purpose of establishing dictatorial control over the most private aspects of an individual’s life, and they will crush any right or liberty that gets in their way.

      The republican party is the very definition of totalitarian.

      As for unions, they are associations of people that exist to counter some of the power that businesses have over their employees. Businesses are, by their very nature, authoritarian. The very act of agreeing to work for a business is a surrender of a portion of one’s liberty to that business, and unions help make sure that the arrangement is not abused. While some unions have exercised abuse in their turn, the power has presently shifted back to the employers in a big way, while the majority of unions have pulled back. Remember that it is businesses that kill workers and unions that work to protect workers.

      When it comes to the economy, conservative policies have been far more devastating that unions could ever be. From exporting wealth and wealth-creation to the war on the middle class/consumer class to driving up the debt to the point that legitimate emergency spending is a real problem, conservatives have brought this country to its economic knees. Sabotaging the recovery, bringing down our credit rating, destabilizing the stock market, and killing consumer and corporate confidence are only the latest offenses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonny-Cache/1039153428 Jonny Cache
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonny-Cache/1039153428 Jonny Cache

    RTW = Republican Third World

    • Anonymous

      Well, Texas is not a third world by any stretch and it is a right to work. I think we are doing pretty well here.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonny-Cache/1039153428 Jonny Cache

        Mr. Monkey, I grew up in Texas.
        I know what it’s like to work in Texas.
        There are many good things about Texas.
        But working there is sure not one of them.

        • Anonymous

          I have worked in Hockley, Hempstead, College Station, Houston and surrounding areas and working was not an issue.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonny-Cache/1039153428 Jonny Cache

            The plain fact is that the people of Michigan owe most of the quality of life they have enjoyed until recently to the benefits of a unionized work force.  That is plain, anyway, to anyone who has seen enough of life in both States.

            People trying to sell you on busting unions, and that is all that RTW is all about, are not your friends.

          • Anonymous

            Nobody has had to ‘sell’ me on busting unions. Unions themselves have easily done that. Now, as far as I know we have a great quality of life. :-)

      • Anonymous

        Texas has the highest percentage of uninsured people in the nation because of attacks on unions.  4th highest poverty rate of any state, yee-haw, you guys are doing great!  http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-sad-facts-behind-rick-perrys-texas-miracle/2011/08/16/gIQAxc3zJJ_story.html

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1580611162 Betsy Rose

        You are not doing well.  Texas is very polluted.  If you want cancer vote republician.  Wages, rights, unions won’t really matter with the horror of the republician environmental policies.  Were all drinking and breathing cancer causing chemicals.  The republicians want to get rid of the EPA!  Vote republician and enjoy your cancers!  They want you to die a slow agonizing death!  WAKE UP!

  • Anonymous

    Tastymonkey: When you get older and have no pension, no IRA, no healthcare for you or your family and the numbers skew to replacing you with a younger person who will work for less…just crawl into a corner so union backed people can point and laugh at you! You think because the Supreme Court says that Corperations are people that they actually have a heart? LOL

  • http://www.steveharrypublicpolicy.com Steve Harry

    Gretchen Whitmer sounds like she is reading from a script. “Right to Work for less” and “attack on the middle class”. Can’t union defenders come up with some new cliches? The real reason Democrats support unions is all the money they get from workers forced to pay union dues whether or not they support the union agenda.

    • Anonymous

      Democrats do not receive money from mandatory dues.  Only from dues that workers opt in to pay.  It’s the difference between full membership and service fees.  The service fee is only a service to negotiate and enforce the contract.  The full membership is where political action is allowed.

      The only reason Republicans are anti-union is because all their corporate money is from businesses that hate unions..  What’s good for the goose..

      • http://www.steveharrypublicpolicy.com Steve Harry

        You are correct if you are saying that Democratic candidates don’t receive campaign contributions DIRECTLY from union dues. However, unions can use union dues to fund independent activities like get out the vote drives and campaign commercials that don’t name the candidate directly. See this story: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110817/GPG0706/108170514/Guest-column-Spending-up-labor-unions-response-Gov-Scott-Walker-budget-bill

        • Anonymous

          What’s the matter with getting out the vote if they don’t name a candidate again?  Is there something wrong with people voting?  Consider that corporations are using your money daily to fund their candidates as well and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the unions funding their people.

          Additionally, your article has zero relevance on the situation in Michigan because your article is about Wisconsin politics.  Wisconsin PAC funding went up because workers donated more when the unions were threatened.  That’s hardly controversial.  Michigan PAC funding cannot come from mandatory dues, it comes from full membership dues.  You have not contradicted this fact at all. 

          • http://www.steveharrypublicpolicy.com Steve Harry

            What is the difference between mandatory dues and full membership dues? I do know that PACs created to make direct contributions to candidates are funded by voluntary contributions from members, completely separate from dues. But I didn’t know there were 2 kinds of “dues”.

            I don’t think political spending is right for either unions OR corporations. I know the Supreme Court considers it free speech, but unions are made up of people with varying political views and corporations are owned by stockholders with varying views. How can either pretend to represent them? Wouldn’t it be more fair to let individual members and stockholders make their own political contributions, or make voluntary contributions to a PAC?

            I’d say my right to free speech is violated when someone claims to speak for me without my consent.

  • Anonymous

    Come on, just call it what it really is, “A Right to Work for Less” legislation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonny-Cache/1039153428 Jonny Cache

    RTW = Republican Third World

    With 26 percent of its citizens lacking health insurance, Texas ranks the worst in the nation for health care coverage. Premiums are well above the national average. The number of Texans who qualify for Medicaid has grown 80 percent since 2001.

    Most of Texas’ new jobs are low income and have been accompanied by a soaring number of Texans who qualify for Medicaid — from 2.1 million in 2001 to 3.5 million today.

    Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7701850.html#ixzz1VLWK1r7K

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Bowman/100000646564835 Gary Bowman

    Right to work states= Lowest ranking states educationally, lowest ranking states in health, highest ranking states in crime, highest ranking states in workplace deaths and injuries,need I go on?

    • Anonymous

      Let’s go on though, lower wage states, lowest percentage of people with health insurance, highest poverty levels..

  • Anonymous

    Unions are so good in some ways and bad in others I am for unions becauce I know companies that make their employees work 7 days a week if they do not they fear they may loss they jobs and heaven forbid if you get sick

  • Prof Kenneth Kolk

    Look at every RTW state, mainly south of the Ohio River, and you will find most of the jobs pay less than $10 per hour. Texas for example 33% of employed workers, not only are paid near minimum wages or minimum wage, but don’t have any form of health insurance, not even medicare! Just what we want for Michigan!

  • http://twitter.com/OTRDriver Patrick

    So all you proponents of RTW, you do know that if you take off one unscheduled day or a sick day, or for some other reason, from work you can be fired on the spot with out recourse, right? If your boss has a bad day and takes it out on you, for ANY reason, s/he can terminate your employment, and you will have no recourse. Is that the kind of work environment you think is fair for you and your family? Or if you get hurt on the job, or sick from the job, they can and will terminate your employment and hire someone else because at that point you are a liability to the company. Are those the kinds fears you want to work under? If so by all means vote for RTW.

  • http://twitter.com/OTRDriver Patrick

    I might add, if you don’t want to work in a union shop then don’t apply at one. If you do want the protections of collective bargaining and job security then support organized labor many voices united can dictate and insure your happiness, insurance benifits and retirement but one voice is just that, alone in the corporate world against the company. If you sign a working agreement and it states you are  ”AT WILL” that is exactly what you are, one voice alone.

  • Anonymous

    Nevada is a right to work state and they have a higher unemloyment rate than Michigan.  Right to work does not create jobs.

  • http://twitter.com/greatlakesgirl Kim Moore

    Michigan is already in bad shape. A recent purchase of a manufacturing plant here was bought out by Brazilians. They expect you to do the work of 3 people now and are still complaining. They want the die setters to take a $7.00 an hour pay cut and start to pay 80% of their health insurance benefits. The rest of the workers who have been there over 20 yrs are being told they are going to bust the union and cut wages to minimum wage after the contract expires next month. Take it or leave it. Today they told the workers if production is not up to their level within 48 hours they are locking the doors. Gov. Snyder is offering incentives for foreign companies to come here and do business and this is what we get?  Their machines need to be repaired right in order to get production. That is the problem, not the people. They have already went through 3 human resource mangers in a year and management turnover now is weekly. Horrible place to work but got to make a living. Get some jobs going here and leave the unions alone as that should be the last thing of his things to do. 

    • http://www.steveharrypublicpolicy.com Steve Harry

      There are 524,000 people unemployed in Michigan. I would rather see them working at minimum wage than not working at all. When they are not working, they have to be supported some how, from UCBs to food stamps. Getting them to work rather than receiving public support reduces costs for employers, which allows them to reduce prices, and it reduces taxes. Both of those reductions reduce the cost of living, making it easier to live on minimum wage or any wage. I agree that minimum wage is not a living wage for most folks, but the unemployed may prefer to have a choice: minimum wage or no job. I’d like everyone to have a good income, but only if it is in a free labor market, where wage rates are not imposed by the government or government-backed union coercion.

      • Anonymous

        I used to have issues with unions until we had our financial meltdown and I lost my non-union job while people with less talent and dedication in my department were kept on and my husband had to take a 10% paycut while watching our 401(k) retirement accounts losing 40% value because of greedy corporations (including banks, investment firms, etc.) jeopordizing our American way of life.  If I had been in a union I may have been able to keep my job.  Paying over a half million people minimum wage will not do much to reduce food stamp usage and other forms of public assistance for most families (3 and up) as it still would mean they are living at poverty income thresholds (actually well below it). 

        The gap between worker and executive pay has increased tremendously over the past couple of decades.  There needs to be some protection for workers regardless of whether they are in unions or not so that they are not forced to live in poverty or on unsustainable incomes while the companies are thriving and the pay disparity is so huge.  It’s shameful that we have lost a decade of growth for middle-class Americans because of wars that weren’t paid for with tax increases, deregulation of financial institutions, poor trade policies that benefit the wealthy, etc.   Workers in unions have had collective bargaining that was protected through labor laws years ago which were overseen by a labor board to help keep commerce going while improving the quality of life for Americans.  The quality life will diminish for Americans in right to work states and if we allow foreign companies the right to bust unions.

        • http://www.steveharrypublicpolicy.com Steve Harry

          Absence of a union doesn’t mean minimum wage. 93% of private sector workers in the U.S. are non-union, and they are not all getting minimum wage. You would have wages “protected” through labor  laws. At what rate? Whatever the union can bully the employer into  paying until they go out of business or move overseas? The market is the only good way to set wage rates. The only other choices are government bureaucrats determining the proper wage for every job in every industry or government-backed union coercion. I agree that executive pay is ridiculously high, but that is a separate problem. It needs to be addressed,  But the solution is not unions. I agree that the country is a mess and that deregulation of they financial sector may be to blame. This country has many serious problems. Our esteemed leaders have screwed up royally. The wonderful government structure our founders came up with no longer seems to be working. But the solution is not collective bargaining.

  • mememejuly

    Actually, I had heard it was going to be renamed “FREEDOM”‘ to work. I suppose that you’d seem unAmerican to oppose anything with the word freedom attached! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eddie-Vroom/100001026398736 Eddie Vroom

    I can just *see* the Kock brothers falling off their chairs lauging and wondering how long they can keep the suckers chopping off their own, umm — noses. Yeah, that’s it. Noses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/JOe-Peiffer/100000156006211 JOe Peiffer

    What Is Wrong With The General Non Union Public….It IS NOT Unions That Have Caused Our Grave Economy…It Is Big Corporate Greed…And Greedy Politicians..Not To Mention Greedy Wall Street & Banks…..Unions Are About The Only Thing The Working Man Has Left That Will Fight For US…A Union Is Working People..

  • Guest

    Its time unions start taking care of their employees and stop playing politics.  Unions have over-stepped themselves and spend too much time and money with taking care of politicians.  If unions are so wonderful than there is no need to worry if Right-To-Work comes to Michigan.