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	<title>Comments on: Two GOP precinct delegates in Michigan have ties to white nationalism</title>
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		<title>By: DankoRamone</title>
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		<dc:creator>DankoRamone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have these fools out in the open and being honest. As I discuss in the post below, it makes it far, far easier for me to tell who&#039;s a waste of flesh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a-good-honest-nigger-might-be-needed-now-more-than-ever/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d rather have these fools out in the open and being honest. As I discuss in the post below, it makes it far, far easier for me to tell who&#39;s a waste of flesh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a-good-honest-nigger-might-be-needed-now-more-than-ever/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Klan rears hood in Midland - Defending the Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klan rears hood in Midland - Defending the Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mobs are all that will be left of the GOP if they don&#039;t remake their party ASAP. Back in October Michigan Messenger uncovered the fact that at least two Republican precinct delegates were tied to white supremists. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mobs are all that will be left of the GOP if they don&#8217;t remake their party ASAP. Back in October Michigan Messenger uncovered the fact that at least two Republican precinct delegates were tied to white supremists. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Midland MI GOP Delegate Dresses in Klan Robes to Protest Obama Election &#171; The Central Tabulator</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/5169/midland-gop-precinct-delegate-participated-in-nazi-rally-in-kalamazoo-in-aug-last-year/comment-page-1#comment-3718</link>
		<dc:creator>Midland MI GOP Delegate Dresses in Klan Robes to Protest Obama Election &#171; The Central Tabulator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News, Obama, Protest, Repiglicans.  trackback  Courtesy The Michigan Messenger: Michigan Messenger broke the story Oct. 1 that at least two Michigan GOP precinct delegates had ties to white supremacists. In the story, Michigan Messenger reported that Randy Gray, of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] News, Obama, Protest, Repiglicans.  trackback  Courtesy The Michigan Messenger: Michigan Messenger broke the story Oct. 1 that at least two Michigan GOP precinct delegates had ties to white supremacists. In the story, Michigan Messenger reported that Randy Gray, of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DankoRamone</title>
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		<dc:creator>DankoRamone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have these fools out in the open and being honest. As I discuss in the post below, it makes it far, far easier for me to tell who&#039;s a waste of flesh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a-good-honest-nigger-might-be-needed-now-more-than-ever/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d rather have these fools out in the open and being honest. As I discuss in the post below, it makes it far, far easier for me to tell who&#39;s a waste of flesh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a-good-honest-nigger-might-be-needed-now-more-than-ever/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: DankoRamone</title>
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		<dc:creator>DankoRamone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather have these fools out in the open and being honest. As I discuss in the post below, it makes it far, far easier for me to tell who&#039;s a waste of flesh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a-good-honest-nigger-might-be-needed-now-more-than-ever/&quot;&gt;http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d rather have these fools out in the open and being honest. As I discuss in the post below, it makes it far, far easier for me to tell who&#39;s a waste of flesh.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a-good-honest-nigger-might-be-needed-now-more-than-ever/">http://www.buster-get-my-pills.com/2008/11/03/a&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My standard of racism is simply does the person or action/statement convey a message that implies racial superiority or inferiority, or cause people to be treated differently based on the color of their skin.  I actually take the objectivist view here and do not believe it is a matter of opinion - its a matter of definition (which &quot;the left&quot; particularly on this issue has taken flexibility with in recent times).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;right wing&quot; has not &quot;made global warming&quot; a matter of &quot;opinion&quot; -- global warming (or more properly its causes) is neither &quot;opinion&quot; nor &quot;fact&quot; -- its a matter of scientific hypothesis, and is in a state where the majority of scientists currently adhere to the hypothesis that it is caused by man-made CO2 emissions.  I&#039;m inclined to believe that at least a substantial part of it is man-made, but then that begs the question of what the science (and economics) says about the solutions, and that&#039;s far more complex.  Cigarette-cancer link is a much longer running scientific question and there is simply just ALOT more data out there, and I think its simply a less-complex and more quickly provable hypothesis, but I don&#039;t see anyone today seriously doubting the link. I certainly wouldn&#039;t put the &quot;right-wing&quot; in there - it was Big Tobacco, a special interest with an obvious interest.  With cigarettes, a valid libertarian-conservative argument can be made that people have a moral right to choose to take personal risks (that obviously doesn&#039;t translate to global warming).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My standard of racism is simply does the person or action/statement convey a message that implies racial superiority or inferiority, or cause people to be treated differently based on the color of their skin.  I actually take the objectivist view here and do not believe it is a matter of opinion &#8211; its a matter of definition (which &#8220;the left&#8221; particularly on this issue has taken flexibility with in recent times).</p>
<p>The &#8220;right wing&#8221; has not &#8220;made global warming&#8221; a matter of &#8220;opinion&#8221; &#8212; global warming (or more properly its causes) is neither &#8220;opinion&#8221; nor &#8220;fact&#8221; &#8212; its a matter of scientific hypothesis, and is in a state where the majority of scientists currently adhere to the hypothesis that it is caused by man-made CO2 emissions.  I&#39;m inclined to believe that at least a substantial part of it is man-made, but then that begs the question of what the science (and economics) says about the solutions, and that&#39;s far more complex.  Cigarette-cancer link is a much longer running scientific question and there is simply just ALOT more data out there, and I think its simply a less-complex and more quickly provable hypothesis, but I don&#39;t see anyone today seriously doubting the link. I certainly wouldn&#39;t put the &#8220;right-wing&#8221; in there &#8211; it was Big Tobacco, a special interest with an obvious interest.  With cigarettes, a valid libertarian-conservative argument can be made that people have a moral right to choose to take personal risks (that obviously doesn&#39;t translate to global warming).</p>
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		<title>By: tspencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>tspencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, you admit in previous posts that it was racist for Bristow to bring certain speakers to MSU.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I&#039;ll agree that hosting Griffin or Fromm is incredibly poor judgment and even worse style in that it is intentionally confrontational.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you call poor judgment and confrontational, common morals, ethics and standards calls acts of organized racism. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps your standard of what is racism is a lot higher than anyone else I&#039;ve ever met in polite society. Though it is curious that you will admit that *if* Bristow used the slurs on his website I described (he did) he is a racist. Yet by inviting Griffin and Fromm and promoting those talks, he is not a racist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose that what makes someone a &quot;racist&quot; is subjective. If your whole belabored effort here is to make Bristow&#039;s racism a matter of opinion, the way the right wing has made global warming and the way Big Tobacco made the cigarette-cancer link a &quot;matter of opinion,&quot; perhaps you have succeeded  with the handful of white supremacists who might have dropped in to read these exchanges. But then again, I&#039;m not sure you&#039;re changing anyone else&#039;s mind about what walks and sounds and acts like a duck as being perhaps a loose cannon instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, you admit in previous posts that it was racist for Bristow to bring certain speakers to MSU.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#39;ll agree that hosting Griffin or Fromm is incredibly poor judgment and even worse style in that it is intentionally confrontational.&#8221;</p>
<p>What you call poor judgment and confrontational, common morals, ethics and standards calls acts of organized racism. </p>
<p>Perhaps your standard of what is racism is a lot higher than anyone else I&#39;ve ever met in polite society. Though it is curious that you will admit that *if* Bristow used the slurs on his website I described (he did) he is a racist. Yet by inviting Griffin and Fromm and promoting those talks, he is not a racist.</p>
<p>I suppose that what makes someone a &#8220;racist&#8221; is subjective. If your whole belabored effort here is to make Bristow&#39;s racism a matter of opinion, the way the right wing has made global warming and the way Big Tobacco made the cigarette-cancer link a &#8220;matter of opinion,&#8221; perhaps you have succeeded  with the handful of white supremacists who might have dropped in to read these exchanges. But then again, I&#39;m not sure you&#39;re changing anyone else&#39;s mind about what walks and sounds and acts like a duck as being perhaps a loose cannon instead.</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing new in what I said, and still no (presented) evidence on Bristow.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The evidence on Gray is convincing. He&#039;s a member of KKK and a racist. I have no qualification in saying that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s nothing new in what I said, and still no (presented) evidence on Bristow.</p>
<p>The evidence on Gray is convincing. He&#39;s a member of KKK and a racist. I have no qualification in saying that.</p>
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		<title>By: tspencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>tspencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job! Knew you could do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job! Knew you could do it!</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If those were the choices, as with I did with Ed, I&#039;ll agree with you.  I&#039;d be amazed if someone didn&#039;t save the html or take a screenshot though and that would be easy to post. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And that I&#039;d consider more newsworthy than this sensationalist attempt to link him to Republicans.  Indeed, now that I think about it, Ed was wrong and I was wrong to agree that &quot;two random people have white supremacist views&quot; isn&#039;t a story.  That&#039;s precisely what SPLC reported on in its first twenty years - but with exhaustive documentation and tight standards.  There would be value in Heywood&#039;s endless documentation of Bristow-stupidity, if Heywood stuck to posting exact words, cold hard facts, and evidence and that evidence stuck to a standardized definition of racist, etc.  Document Bristow&#039;s racism, not his 6 degrees of connection, which is the only new part of this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those were the choices, as with I did with Ed, I&#39;ll agree with you.  I&#39;d be amazed if someone didn&#39;t save the html or take a screenshot though and that would be easy to post. </p>
<p>And that I&#39;d consider more newsworthy than this sensationalist attempt to link him to Republicans.  Indeed, now that I think about it, Ed was wrong and I was wrong to agree that &#8220;two random people have white supremacist views&#8221; isn&#39;t a story.  That&#39;s precisely what SPLC reported on in its first twenty years &#8211; but with exhaustive documentation and tight standards.  There would be value in Heywood&#39;s endless documentation of Bristow-stupidity, if Heywood stuck to posting exact words, cold hard facts, and evidence and that evidence stuck to a standardized definition of racist, etc.  Document Bristow&#39;s racism, not his 6 degrees of connection, which is the only new part of this story.</p>
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