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Bill allows counselor to refuse to help certain clients
By Todd A. Heywood | 07.05.11 | 8:37 am

Two Michigan state Senators have proposed legislation which would allow counseling students to decline to counsel some clients because doing so would violate their “sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction.”

The legislation is a response to the ongoing case of former Eastern Michigan University student Julea Ward. Ward was removed from a counseling program after refusing to counsel a gay student about his relationships. She said she could not do that as it would be encouraging or validating a “lifestyle” she did not condone of believe in because of her Christian faith. Ward transferred the student to another counselor, but soon found herself being booted from the university. She sued in federal court, but thus far the courts have ruled that EMU’s counseling education program was within its rights to boot her.

But Detroit Democratic Sen. Tupac Hunter says Ward was “discriminated against” by the university. That is why he agreed to co-sponsor the legislation with Grand Rapids area Republican Sen. Mark Jansen.

“[Ward] was met with I feel an inappropriate response whereby she was penalized for having her own moral conviction,” Hunter told the Michigan Messenger. “The legislation was crafted to do exactly what it says. To prohibit an individual who is in one of those programs who has a value conflict from being discriminated against.”

Similar “conscience” bills has been introduced in the state legislatures in previous years which would have allowed pharmacists and doctors to decline to provide services based on moral convictions. Those bills have always died in the legislative process. Opponents of the legislation noted that if passed it would have allowed, for example, a Catholic pharmacist to refuse to fill a prescription for birth control pills or the so-called “morning after pill.”

While Hunter says the legislation is not about allowing counselors to discriminate against gays, but rather is broadly structured to respect the moral convictions and religious beliefs of counseling students. But he said he sees limits to the legislation.

Asked if a white nationalist who was an adherent of a brand of Christianity called Christian Identity would be allowed to invoke their sincerely held religious beliefs to refuse to counsel a person of color, Hunter replied, “No. That is where I draw the line.

“You pose a scenario that some one could suggest that’s like being discriminated against because of sexuality,” said Hunter. “When I believe that there is a moral value, what I believe, that is one thing. To say that, you know, that sexuality is on the same level as an issue of racism, that is a debate we need to have.”

Hunter said the Bible prohibits homosexual activity but does not support racism. Asked if under his scenario he weren’t setting universities and colleges up to be the arbitrators of which religious values were and were not valid, Hunter said, “No.”

Civil rights activists were quick to pounce on the legislation and the Detroit senator’s statements.

“All respected mental health organizations say that homosexuality is not a disease that can be treated,” says Wayne Besen, executive director of Truth Wins Out, a national organization that works to counter the effects of ex-gay counseling or reparative therapy promoted by many churches. “Any counseling that rejects coming out as an option is by nature inappropriate, unhealthy and damaging to the client. Furthermore, the counseling should be about the client, not the self-serving needs of the therapist.”

Equality Michigan, an LGBT rights group based in Detroit, opposes the legislation.

“What is frightening about Senator Hunter’s bill is that just about any bias could be argued to qualify as a ‘sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction,’” says Emily Dievendorf, policy director of Equality Michigan. “Any bias would, under this bill, allow counselors to refuse help to individuals seeking their guidance. It is shameful and sad that the desire to hurt the gay community was the motivation for the bill in the first place. Creating broad flexibility in our law to permit discrimination endangers all people. If this bill becomes law, we will see individuals in crisis being refused counseling due to their race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, sex, socio-economic status – you name it.”

“This would set a very dangerous precedent. If the Christian therapist can reject gay clients, why can’t a fundamentalist mail carrier elect not to deliver letters advertising concerts for the Gay Men’s Chorus? What is happening in Michigan could create a chaotic and divisive situation where fundamentalists are exempt from laws that govern the general public,” says Besen. “The law is meant to protect a person’s right to worship according to conscience. Unless the counselor is forbidden from such worship, his or her rights are not being violated. The counseling profession by nature is one where an expert provides advice to people with whom they may personally disagree. If a client is told by such a perceived expert that they are unfit to be treated, such unprofessional behavior and moral judgement can damage the client.”

Dievendorf also raises safety concerns associated with denying services to counseling clients.

“This bill also threatens lives through potential delays in access to counseling and even lacks requirements to document the personal bias that is supposed to enable counselors to deny treatment,” she said. “Imagine the potential psychological harm when a client is denied or delayed services because of a counselor’s personal distaste – will we see more self-harm or suicides? We all know how harmful discrimination can be. Senator Hunter is now trying to promote it.”

Comments

  • Kiki Yushima

    Wat. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1197906528 Gilbert Gordon

    A Black man promoting discrimination based on his religious fanatacism…tell me again the difference between a Xtian fanatic and an Islamic fanatic…there is no difference….both would pass laws discriminating against a group of people!

  • Anonymous

    Why would a gay person want someone like that counseling them anyway?  . This guy would not benefit from someone being forced to counsel a problem they find repulsive. I will say however, if this person is paid by public funds, she should find a new job in the private sector… maybe a church counselor. There is room for both of these people to live in our society. There are many gay accepting counselors out there and there are people who would prefer their counselor had the same religous beliefs as they have.

    • Anonymous

      If this student (she is not a licensed professional counselor) doesn’t want to follow the American Counseling Association’s Code of Ethis, she should find a counseling prgram that doesn’t abide by them. What I find so ironic is that Sen. Hunter draws the line at a racist Christian, why? Counselors, social workers, and psycholgists are taught not to discriminate or shoe bias (countertransference). If she can’t follow this fundamental concept of these professions, shouldn’t this student find another profession. What next, allowing EMTs the right to refuse first aid to people they may have conflicts of “lifestyle” with. How about an ER physician who can’t put aside a “moral value” to treat a patient?

      • Anonymous

        And that, my friend, is exactly the aim of the “conscience clause”… paving the way for allowing religiously motivated discrimination in the work place, in health care, in housing, in education… in every facet of life. They don’t call these folks Dominionists for nothing as they state their end game quite plainly in their own propoganda mills. Google it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bob.judd Bob Judd

      But if you’re in a SCHOOL and you go to the school’s counselor, you should be counseled regardless of your sexuality or problem. There IS NO ROOM in our society for counselors who think they have the right to decline counseling based on some childish ‘moral conviction’, like their religious hatred of homosexuals. I just hope this ‘counselor’ was promptly TERMINATED and she didn’t let the door hit her in the ass on the way out.

  • John Jackson

    “self serving needs of the therapist”

    could not have said it better myself.

  • Anonymous

    The article fails to mention that Ms. Ward was willing to counsel the student on any number of issues other than sexual activity. She stated on the record that she would take the same position for all couples, regardless of sexual orientation, if they are not married. She fourther stated, on the record, that there were other issues, such as abortion, that she could not support through counseling because of religious conviction.

    Course instructors and required texts all teach counselors to refer clients when there is a irreconcilable difference in the clients and the counselors values. Every professional counselor will tell you this is common practice. Ms Ward happened to be a student that EMU thought they could bully into abandoning her beliefs. I guess they were wrong.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1022231556 Alvin McEwen

      the courts ruled for EMU. With all due respect to Ms. Ward, shouldn’t the needs of her perspective clients come first. Perhaps she should seek another profession where they don’t.

      • Anonymous

        Or seek professional help herself.

    • Anonymous

      You are obviously not well versed in the counseling profession. Counselors are not taught that they can refuse to work with people they have values conflicts with. They are taught they need to refer when they are not trained to deal with a particular issues that a client presnts with. Extant case law is on the side of EMU (see Bruff v North Mississippi Health Services, Inc). I notice you didn’t comment on Hunter’s hypocrisy when he said he would not support the right of a Christian Identity adherent who would not counsel an African American- I wonder why? I fail to see anywhere that you have made a case for your statement that you guess the the counseling staff “were wrong.” The courts are upholding the school’s decision and other attempts to legislate bigotry into the healing professions have all died very just deaths. Doesn’t MI already have a big enough rep for being the armpit of the country without wasting time and money of a counseling student’s right to be a bigot? One of the roles of mental health training programs is to serve as gatekeepers to keep those not fit for the professions out.

    • Anonymous

      Being gay isn’t about “sexual activity” and no one asked her to give sex advise.

      She clearly needs to find a different job, because she is completely unsuitable to be a counselor or therapist

    • Anonymous

      Then the little girlie needs to find another way to make her living, because obviously she has too many strong personal prejudices to help those who are seeking help.  Get out sweet cheeks and go get a job as your church secretary.  I’m sure no one would offend your “convictions” there eh?

    • Anonymous

      Nobody has a constitutional right to religiously motivated discrimination. Period.

  • http://profiles.google.com/moshaughnessy63 Mary O’Shaughnessy

    As long as Christians are ok with being referred out by atheist counselors who find their beliefs repellent….

    • Anonymous

      That hypocrite Tupac Hunter wants a double standard, protect homophobes, but don’t protect racists. I doubt if his bigoted ass would allow for atheist to hjave rights, after all that’s different in the mind of a hypocrite like him who reminds me of Ex-Mayor and blatant “Hip Hop” Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. email this bigot Hunter and let him know your views at senthunter@senate.michigan.gov,

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660216385 John Bovay
    • Beverly Kurtin

      Ohhh, isn’t that a lovely demonstration of Xian love? Pardon me while I lost my lunch.

      The correct term, BTW, is LGBT NOT GLBT  Isn’t there a hymn that goes, “They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love…”?

    • Anonymous

      Brutally honest and entirely appropriate under our present circimstances.

      Thanks for posting it.

  • Anonymous

    This student needs to find another line of work. She’s not fit to counsel my shoe.

  • Anonymous

    The Bible does in fact support racism and all kinds of other ugly behavior. The US has a sad history of justifying racism and slavery on biblical grounds.

    • Anonymous

      Hence the reason our founding fathers did not look to the bible for inspiration in drafting the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights and subsequent generations did not look there for inspiration in the drafting of our constitutional amendments.

  • Beverly Kurtin

    WHOA!  I’m a former Crisis Interventionist/Suicide Prevention Counselor. The FIRST THING WE LEARNED IS THAT IF WE CANNOT BE NEUTRAL ABOUT ANYTHING A CALLER MIGHT BE OR WANT TO BE GET OUT AND STAY OUT.

    It disgusts me that Christians are anti-Christs when they do the exact opposite of what their faith’s founder told them to do or not to do. I thank heavens every day that I am not a Christian, I do not have to be bound by bigotry. I wholeheartedly agree with Becklev:; She has no business being in counselling unless she is going to ONLY counsel other Christians so they can be as warped a bigot as she.

    This is 2011, not 1311 or 1711 or even 1911. Homosexuality is not a “lifestyle,” it is what they ARE. I would ask anyone when they first found that they were attracted to members of the opposite sex?  People still believe that LGBT people CHOOSE to be as they are or should be ashamed of who they are. I was fortunate enough to be born straight. I thought boys had “cooties” as a young girl. Then, for some unknown reason, some of those critters were, well, cute as anything!  

    LGBT people do not make a choice. Many are confused when they realize that they are attracted to their own gender. It comes as a shock because nobody wants to be a pariah and be looked down as someone who is dirty and depraved. Their brains were altered while they were still developing inside their mother’s womb. HOW ANYONE CAN DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THOSE NICE PEOPLE IS BEYOND MY KEN BECAUSE I WAS NOT BROUGHT UP TO BE A BIGOT. And a bigot that “counselor” is. 

    I have a question for men. One night you go to sleep and wake up the next morning in a woman’s body.  Ladies, just the opposite, you wake up as a man, yet you are still YOU.  You would probably move heaven and earth to get back into the proper body, right?  That is the problem that transgendered people face every day of their lives. In the past, most transgendered individuals committed suicide; today there are other options and they take them when they can afford them.

    Being a  woman is something I adore! I’ve never met a man who wants to be a woman unless, of course, he suffers from gender dysphoria, the correct term for “transgendered” individuals.

    Now for all you Christians, go read Romans 1; there you will find many behaviors that are, according to Paul the apostate, worthy of death.  Have you ever gossiped?  Welcome to death. I quote from the NIV:

    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

    Ever been envious of someone? Have you ever deceived (lied) to anyone? READ the above and understand that according to your own book, YOU are deserving of death, not just homosexuals.  You have no love for people who are different from you…you are worthy of death.  Happy eternity! 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1580611162 Betsy Rose

      I noticed in your post You wrote “I was fortunate enough to be born straight.”
      Thats very revealing.  You think its a misfortune to be gay.  I don’t think with this attitude you should be working in crisis counseling.  Being gay is not a misfortune. 

      • Anonymous

        I think the poster may have meant that she did not have to deal with, analyze, and be subject to the judgment of an ignorant and loveless group of people, such as the religious projectors….I could be wrong.  When I read that statement, the same thoughts came to mind.  However, after thinking of  “stigmatic” struggles that people deal with…discriminatory judgement from portions of an under-educated society is quite a feat to rise above.  This is what I think she meant by “fortunate”.  In other words, she didn’t have to constantly defend herself or feel shunned due to the unnecessary judgement and shame brought forth by others.

        • Anonymous

          Discrimination is despicable on any grounds. On the other hand, I find it impossible to be stigmatized by the judgement of stupid people. On the third hand (don’t judge me), legalizing institutional discrimination is evil on top of stupid and will not be tolerated.

  • Eddie273273

    How could this woman possibly be a “christian” . She certainly hasn’t read the bible or paid attention in church .
     Seems she needs counciling herself .

  • Anonymous

    If the duties appropriate to your chosen profession as counselor, educator, therapist, pharmacist, doctor, or front desk receptionist ”violates” [YOUR] “sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction,” then resign and join a convent or a monastery where your religious beliefs likely won’t be overly taxed. You have no constitutional right to religiously motivated discrimination.

  • http://www.facebook.com/katie.l.berger Katie Berger Tremaine

    As a transgender American, “conscience exemptions” terrify me. What happens when someone decides that another person’s very existence offends their delicate “conscience.” Tyra Hunter did not die THAT long ago…

  • CarmanK

    The woman was an ACADEMIC counselor, it had nothing to do with the student’s human sexuality. She is a bigot and she chose to discriminate against the GAY student which was  elevating  personal bigotry to her professional responsibilities. Her self imposed limitations on her ability to perform her job, made her unfit for the position in the public sector.  This is not the same as a doctor or pharmacist rendering services, very personal services to their patients. The woman is a bigot and she wants to interject her personal poison into the academic atmosphere. She should apply to ORAL ROBERTS U, if she doesn’t want to be around “that kind of person”. Shame on her!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jennifer-Anders/100002477904447 Jennifer Anders

    “The Bible does not support racism? Excuse me, but it does. The persecution of Jews, slaves in the Bible … what else would you call that?