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Rep. Justin Amash held a townhall meeting sponsored by a Tea Party group on Saturday, but a group of senior citizens and two reporters — including this one — were denied entry to the event.
The traditional purpose of a townhall meeting is for an elected official to meet with his constituents in public, giving the people a chance to ask questions and engage in dialogue with their representatives. But neither the organizers nor Amash apparently wanted to hear from or speak to a group of concerned senior citizens — even at a time when the fate of Medicare is being debated in Congress.
About eight senior citizens arrived at the Prince Conference Center on the Calvin College campus for a chance to question Amash concerning his voting record in regards to eliminating Medicare.
Once barred from attending the event, the seniors stood out in the parking lot where they were taking questions from this reporter and Tanya Somanader of Think Progress, the two members of the media who were denied access. Eventually, six security guards arrived on the scene and said that both the seniors and the reporters had to leave.
James Austin was one of the seniors who showed up at the event and was immediately denied entrance.
“I got a message on my answering machine about this meeting saying senior citizens should be particularly interested,” said Austin. “I thought there was going to be one heck of a crowd out there.”
Andy Schikel was also part of the group which was eventually forced off the campus by college security personnel.
Schikel says he and his wife received the same phone message as the other people who were forced to leave and said he simply wanted to question Amash on his voting record, which Schikel says “hurts the poor people of America.”
Schikel said, “It is private property, but someone said they didn’t have enough money for more room for more people because they only rented a small area.”
From the name tag list on the reception table it appeared that about a dozen people did not show up after registering but the extra space was still denied to both the non-registered seniors and the media. Saying they had ample time to register for the event she also denied access to anyone who did not register for the event, several Tea Party supporters were also turned away.
A couple of the organizers, upon hearing that reporters and constituents were being barred from the event, said there had to be some sort of mistake and apologized, saying they would remedy the situation by making sure they spoke with Rep. Amash as soon as he was available and urging him to answer questions.
But Lisa Dupont, an organizer with the Tea Party of West Michigan, said it was intentional to deny media access to the event.
“That’s our choice,” Dupont said. “We just wanted it to be laid back and comfortable, we’re asking the questions.”
Dupont went on to say that she believed that whenever the media was in the room it created an atmosphere of “nervousness” and if they opened up the event to the press it “then becomes about the press.”
Despite the reporters’ willingness to compromise — agreeing not to ask questions during the event, agreeing not to shoot video or photos and offering to pay the $10 registration fee — they were still not allowed inside.
Dupont said she would talk with other organizers and Amash to see if it could be done, but never came back with an answer.
In a rushed interview before the event Amash was willing to answer questions but did not seem willing to talk to Tea Party organizers to allow the media inside as well as the senior citizens.
“There are lots of events where the media are not allowed in,” said Amash. “It happens all the time, it’s not matter of whether I mind it or not.”
Amash continued to say “It’s not my event” when asked about the senior citizens and media.
Amash would not offer comment on the event itself, what was going to take place inside or whether he would be available for post-event comment.
Dupont said the event was entirely open to anybody and it was advertised on their website and Facebook page. However, in order to see the event and sign up a user first would have had to sign up with the Tea Party group’s website. The event did not appear on Rep. Amash’s website.
The event flyer said nothing about media not being allowed entrance.
After the event finished, and for the next two hours, organizers continually denied the media access to even the hallway outside of the event and Amash did not come back out.
Paul Meyer, a Tea Party member, continually threatened the reporters with calling security after media asked where Rep. Amash was located and when he would be available.
Meyer said he was asked to act as security but refused to identify who had asked him to do so and did not answer when asked whether he believed the media should be considered a security risk.
The media was eventually asked to leave the premises once again by security officials, who declined to say who had called them.
Joe DiSano is a political consultant for Main Street Strategies in Lansing. DiSano said these occurrences at political events are known as dirty tricks or political pranks.
“There are two types of political pranks you can pull,” said DiSano. “The first is just being obnoxious — just doing stuff to annoy your opponents. The second consists of the pranks that underline an issue or highlight a position of an opponent.”
“Clearly what happened in Grand Rapids today is an example of the latter,” DiSano said. “Amash was trying to speak to only his supporters and barring others from entering and that is a real problem for him.”
DiSano believes that had Amash asked for the media and the seniors to be allowed in, the organizers would have conceded and granted entrance, but he said that Amash clearly didn’t want either group to participate in the “Fireside Chat.”
“Amash didn’t want them there and that is why they were barred from the event, regardless of what he said. He is trying to keep his radical far right agenda separate from senior citizens who would question his recent vote to abolish medicare. I’m far more convinced that’s why they were not let in the room, he does not want to answer those questions.”
Here is video of security guards telling the reporters and seniors that they had to leave the premises, shot by Tanya Somanader of Think Progress. One of the guards tells the seniors that whoever called them told them that they had been throwing things at the organizers and that’s why they had to leave. The guard doesn’t seem to take those accusations seriously.
This is how the tea Party operates… they scream at the top of their lungs for government transparency, yet they want no transparency when it comes to their own organization. Typical right wing hypocrites.
TxPatriot512
Yes cc, this IS how the Tea Party operates now. I can assure all you lefty crybabies that you’ll have plenty more to cry about.
Gus diZerega
Spoken like a true authoritarian hater of democratic ideas, such as the one that representatives are elected to represent their constituents, which are all the people of their district. And you have the effrontery to call yourself a patriot!
Anonymous
Spoken more like a dim-witted redneck who has no fucking clue what is going on and likes to feel like they’re part of something they don’t understand. Great job not making a single point or referncing anything for support. Making the most of that middle school education eh?
Gus diZerega
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I assume you are referring tot he person I criticized, because otherwise your post is incoherent.
I referenced openness to the voting public and made a fairly basic point about democracy, and about those who only like it when they win.
These Teabaggers and the Republican operatives in government really hate the Constitutionally-limited democratic republic that our founders passed down to us.
Teabaggers and Republicans HATE our system of government because they are the true heirs to the loyalists and their true mission is to have the rich own and run everything while everyone else stays in their “natural” place.
Having a government “of, by and for” the people is a frightening notion to Teabaggers and Republicans. In fact, fear is the motivating factor in all their pathetic sycophancy – that’s why they are a sad collection of dupes who parrot their master’s talking points in the desperate hope a billionaire will one day meet them for a beer. But a billionaire will NEVER meet their willfully-ignorant useful idiots for a beer because they laugh at them more than normal people (non Republicans) do and loathe them more for their eager willingness to shoot themselves in the head on command.
TxPatriot512
Wow! Thanks for sharing that, dackctyl!
Bob Beamesderfer
Yeah, and then a few years from now it will be some other party’s idea to shut your sorry ass out of an even because “Tea Partiers are just disruptive and their so-called citizen journalists make people nervous.” See how it works?
TxPatriot512
Hey derfer, I liked your earlier vile comment better. You’ll be happy to know that Disqus sent it to my inbox even though the moderators here found it to be, well, let’s just say a little too juvenile as well as vile.
Please feel free to dis our governor as well as our state. I realize you crybaby libs have no appreciation for, or understanding of what responsible government is. You wouldn’t know or care that 8 out of every 10 new jobs created in America last year and the year before were created in Texas, or that we balance the state budget every year, or that we are the only state in the last 50 years that will spend less this year than last year. And guess where all those businesses and jobs that left your state are now? Yeah, derfer, feel free to dis that!
Anonymous
“But as the state’s budget shortfall widens—to as much as $18 billion, or about 20% of the next two-year budget, according to the state legislature’s latest analysis released earlier this month—critics are complaining that Mr. Perry’s policies have left the state with little room to reduce spending.”
Just curious Tx, how does this 2010 WSJ article reconcile with your comment about balanced budgets in Texas? Was Mr. Perry able to orchestrate a turnaround during the past year?
Anonymous
“But as the state’s budget shortfall widens—to as much as $18 billion, or about 20% of the next two-year budget, according to the state legislature’s latest analysis released earlier this month—critics are complaining that Mr. Perry’s policies have left the state with little room to reduce spending.”
Just curious Tx, how does this 2010 WSJ article reconcile with your comment about balanced budgets in Texas? Was Mr. Perry able to orchestrate a turnaround during the past year?
Anonymous
Here in Texas, we have
No Democrats holding a single, statewide elected office
Weak unions, as Texas is a “right to work” state
Solid GOP majorities in the State House and Senate
Medical malpractice tort “reform”
Very corporate/industry friendly regulations and regulators
And the result of these far-right, anti-policy holder, anti-patient, anti-consumer policies in our Republican nirvana is a $25 billion hole in the budget.
And that deficit is all on the GOP, it can’t logically put any of the
blame on the Democrats, they wield no influence at this time.
We’ve had medical malpractice “reform” for years, but denying surgically-injured
patients, or the survivors of patients killed due to their doctor, hospital, medical provider or health insurer, their day in court has NOT led to a decrease in health
insurance premiums and health care costs for policy-holders and patients, even though that’s exactly how this legislation was pushed, that curbing “frivolous” lawsuits would result in savings that then benefit patients and policy holders through lower premiums and costs.
Every day costs for Texas consumers have NOT declined as a result of Republican policies, such as deregulating utilities, nor have those policies resulted in an explosion of middle-class growth throughout the state.
As I said, all these GOP policies have brought about increases in health
insurance premiums and health care costs while blowing a $25 billion
hole in the budget.
That’s ALL on the Republicans.
Anonymous
Texas sucks
Anonymous
Thus explains the sorry state of Texas. Last in every measure of success.
Anonymous
And your state has more uninsured, poor children than any state in the country and has executed more (innocent) human beings than any state in history. You also have a long history as a backward, repressive state for all but white cowboys – including resisting civil rights and snake-handling preachers. The Southern Baptist Convention is a cornerstone of Texas religion and was created to ensure the ongoing survival of slavery. Also, thanks for re-writing school textbooks to include the fable of Christian dogma – creationism. No doubt there is strong job creation in a state rich with oil, close to major ports and no state income tax. Duh!
Anonymous
There certainly WAS strong job creation in Texas among minimum wage Walmart employees. Depends on one’s interpretation of “job.”
Anonymous
This is authoritarian bully talk: “I’ll give you something to cry about!”. It is simply abusive, and not patriotic in the least.
Oh what a shock a fake patriot calling names, that’s all you people can do because your not intelligent enough to debate, if you were intelligent you wouldn’t be a teabag.
Anonymous
TxPatriot: Thanks for confirming suspicions about you teagaggers. You are obviously not working toward the good of this country, but rather to have some sense of perverted power. The exchange of ideas is the lifeblood of any democracy. If you oppose this exchange you are not only a coward but not in favor of democracy. I was beginning to think that some of you actually cared about this country and all the people in it. Thanks for correcting that faulty hope.
Anonymous
And this is how fascists always get the crap stomped out of themselves eventually. They just don’t do subtle.
Anonymous
Do you mean it’s like Germany of the early 30′s when the democratic principles were used to take power and then those same principles and values were eliminated by the right wing that obtained power? Do you mean that is being done now while the majority remain silent, oblivious and ignorant? I am shocked!
Anonymous
This is the stupidest, most poorly researched report I’ve ever read. Amash held an ACTUAL town hall meeting, that the public was invited to and attended, that same morning. This was an entirely separate, private event put on by the Tea Party. Get a clue.
Actually your rush to defend Amash and the group speaks volumes. Would it have killed them to allow the seniors in? There was space. Would it have killed them to allow the reporters to observe since they agreed to take no pictures and ask no questions? Obviously not. For a group of people and a politician who want to get their message out – they were pretty adamant about denying access. But all you can do is carry their water… way to go fko
Anonymous
Just because it would not have “killed them” to do something doesn’t mean they are required or expected to do it.
A public, open town hall with a press conference afterward occurred THAT MORNING. It was covered by numerous local news outlets, including WZZM and the Grand Rapids Press.
This was a private event for the Tea Party of West Michigan. You don’t get to change that fact just because you delusionally think you have some right to be let in to private events.
Anonymous
And while you choose to ignore what I actually said because it’s easier to stick your fingers in your ears and go “la, la, la” – the facts remain the same:
1. The seniors were invited to the private event.
2. There was ample room to let them attend.
3. The reporters agreed to the conditions set forth by the event holders, but were still denied.
4. The Tea Party and Amash have constantly talked about the need for tranparancy, for inclusiveness… “for listening to the people”. Yet they chose to exclude constituents. Then, to further support their groundless fears and paranoia, they summoned security guards to chase the folks out of the parking lot – where they were not causing a fuss, protesting, etc.
I love the way you have to project, and believe you know what I’m thinking… sorry, but you’re wrong. But like I said… keep accusing others of delusions and hold on tightly to your weak justifications. I repeat – way to go…
Anonymous
Wow, talk about not listening. The seniors were NOT invited to this private event. Ever. Neither was the news media. That’s my point.
Anonymous
I sure hope that Seniors wake up and realise they are not wanted in the Tea party at all.
Bob Beamesderfer
Well, private events and transparency do not go together all that well. If the Tea Party wants to act like elitist assholes, that’s their choice. However, elected officials don’t simply answer to one segment of the constituency.
As for the so-called Tea Party security person calling campus police on journalists and seniors, that person comes off like an asshole. Like I said before, beware that double-edge sword.
Anonymous
In my rush to respond, I accidentally hit the “like” button… I’d like to repeal that and say this instead:
The so-called “Christian” right of the GOP campaign committee publically proclaimed that it intends to shield teabag officials and 2012 candidates from answering to the public… don’t you watch the Christian Braodcasting Network, “patriot”? The name of the game in any fundie stealth campaign is to avoid public scrutiny and to shut down free speech as quickly as possible. In light of the numerous documented instantances of various tea partying reps and governors utilizing similiar fascist tactics, I guess you’re familiar with the routine.
BTW, the seniors only attended because they received robocalls requesting them to do so. Guess that qualifies as an invite.
“The tea party… Americans from a broad political spectrum from all walks of life angry over bank bailouts and taxes..” my arse.
Anonymous
This article is pretty outrageous, considering Mr. Amash held a town hall meeting this very day. I think the author should probably GROW UP.
Sam Ignot is a liberal fool, who cares These people can do nothing but lie everyday now I agree Publius time they grow up. what people should be talking about how the committee to elect barack obama were working to collect recall signatures falsely, now thats a story
Anonymous
What in the name of all things rationale are you trying to say? “what people should be talking about how the committee to elect barack obama were working to collect recall signatures falsely” please… share
TxPatriot512
Say there, Rainpuddle, I believe the term is ‘rational’.
TxPatriot512
So, let me see if I’ve got this right. It was a private event on private property that occurred after Amash’s public Townhall event. And the event organizers successfully barred a lefty journalist and his ‘senior citizen’ props from disrupting the event and turning it into a lefty circus? I’d say job well done!!!
Anonymous
way to make a whole lot of suppositions there. “Lefty Journalist” and his “senior citizen props”… who were there to “disrupt”. Who are you, the amazing Kreskin that you can just read an article and understand exactly what was going on? Hey, why didn’t you tip them off ahead of time? ROFL
Anonymous
I wonder who is paying Amash. I think he is a public employee and he is beholden to his constituents, not just whoever is at private events.
Anonymous
Interesting that senior citizens are now “props” since the tea party elect decided to relieve them of their Medicare coverage and Social Security pensions whereas previously they were “grandpa and grandma” for whom “death panels” awaited.
You’re quite full of yourself and it shows.
Anonymous
Sam Inglot, if you have any integrity as a journalist you will amend your article to say that Amash held a PUBLIC TOWN HALL that morning that ALL members of the public were invited to and which gave the Press considerable time to ask questions.
Not to mention that this was a private event…
Anonymous
Turns out that a whole lot of town hall meetings are suddenly “private”… soon as the plebs start pointing out the fact that the emperor has no clothes. Refusal to bend over for tea partying Christo-fascists tends to get real Americans barred from participation in their government all of a sudden. Intesting development, that.
Anonymous
Tea partiers have to meet in private. Otherwise everyone will see they are holding the book upside down.
http://twitter.com/SOCOACH Bob Young
I’d like to give Rep. Amash the benefit of the the doubt, but this seems consistent with his opinions, his voting record and the beliefs of the right wing West Michigan constituents who funded his campaign.
“Lisa Dupont, an organizer with the Tea Party of West Michigan, said it was intentional to deny media access to the event.”“That’s our choice,” Dupont said. “We just wanted it to be laid back and comfortable, we’re asking the questions.”Dupont went on to say that she believed that whenever the media was in the room it created an atmosphere of “nervousness” and if they opened up the event to the press it “then becomes about the press.”Let’s look at those statements, one by one.”We’re asking the questions.” This implies that the Tea Party of West Michigan considers Amash to be their very own lapdog, and that no one else is allowed contact with him. In other words, he may be YOUR representative by name, and he make make decisions that have a significant impact on YOUR life, but he answers only to the Tea Party fringe of the far right.” … it created an atmosphere of “nervousness …” A group with nothing to hide from the rest of this representative’s constituents should have no reason to feel nervous. So what is it exactly that makes the Tea Party of West Michigan “nervous” about the public knowing what was discussed with a representative of Congress?”… it then becomes about the press.” That’s an odd perspective when you consider that it is the specific role of the press to report on meetings such as this one so that all of Representative Amash’s constituents – even the ones who could not attend – would know how the issues discussed would affect their lives. This is the reason we have open meeting laws, and if it is necessary to pass legislation to make absolutely certain that these meetings are held in public forums to prevent the skirting of these laws, so be it.By kowtowing solely to the requests of a fringe group with questionable motives, Representative Amash is begging for a more thorough examination of his supposed devotion to transparency in government. If it continues, he’s also begging for a recall campaign.
Bob Beamesderfer
And there in lies the path to the Tea Party’s demise, like every third party in the past century.
Anonymous
Wouldn’t that be taxation without representation? His constituents will be interested to know that only fellow Christo-fascists need apply.
Questionalble motves? Lol really. Smaller government, Less taxes, and less money being spent. Do you live in a box?
Anonymous
Dang it…I can’t afford to hire a congressmen for a private meeting. Guess I’ll have to stay out of the loop like the majority of everyone else!
Anonymous
Gosh, it is too bad people can’t choose to not help pay the salary of elected officials that are not responsive to all the constituents in the elected officials district.
Anonymous
Amash is a coward. We can’t wait until the Tea Seniors in their 100%-paid-for-by- Medicare wake up to get their voucher in the mail and find out that no one will insure them. Oh, one company will, but it will cost them $15,000 per year. No one wants to live under an authoritarian regime, but this is our future unless people in Michigan wake up and fight. This should run a deathly chill down everyone’s spine: “The media should be considered a security risk…”
Anonymous
Any public official or candidate for office who refuses public scrutiny via the mainstream press is in effect admitting that he/she has something to hide and is therefore unworthy of our trust or our vote.
The Christo-fascist “stealth campaign” crap ends now.
Anonymous
The real driving force behind the tea party movement and all the others who support the Republicans:
“Most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor.”
John Dickenson to John Hancock
-”Cool, Cool, Considerate Men” 1776
Anonymous
Looks like Amash doesn’t doesn’t want to defend his and his fellow Radical Repub Party’s vote for the infamous “Ryan Budget” that will kill Medicare to the people which his robo-call invited to his townhall because they are seniors! How much more of this behavior on the part of these Radical “Tea Bag” Repubs will it take until Western Michigan’s seniors and other middle class voters who have been the Repub Party’s biggest block of voters to decide that they should never vote for the Repub Party’s candidates (including those for the State Supreme Court)? I know two seniors who will never vote Repub again. These illegitimate persons who are our state Representatives and Senators also voted to tax our pensions and IRAs to give Amway a huge tax break!
News flash. The country is broke., LBJ started it. There hasnt been any money in the ‘trust Fund” for years. Now all the baby losers are mad they may have their funds cut. Cry me a river. The plundering of social security happened under their watch. Unfortunately for them they were too busy being hippies and trying to save the world. Well I hope some of you boomers make an early exit out of this world and save yourself the indignity of your old years when Gen x and y have the political power and realize they are working to pay off a ponzi scheme you let happen. The baber boomer generation still trying to avoid responsibility for their inaction.
Anonymous
Oh, Classic_Liberal, you needed to pay more attention when you were in history and government class! BTW, I’m a retired history and poly-sci professor and I’m not a Baby Boomer, never was a Hippie, although I was active in the anti-war movement during Vietnam, I am in fact a WW II baby. What your teachers didn’t apparently tell you, or you, like a lot of students who are being taught by coaches who are PE majors with a minor in social studies [not even history], which can be such subjects as HISTORY OF BASEBALL, PSYCHOLOGY OF COACHING, SOCIOLOGY OF TEAM ACTIVITIES, ETC. [I personally know people who were teaching history and government with social studies certification based on these courses.
As far as Social Security and Medicare goes, I guess no one told you that in the early 90s, during the Clinton Administration the Democrats in Congress doubled the amount of FICA taxes, which were to be put in the SS Trust Fund for the Boomers, and even though I wasn’t a boomer they raised the age at which I could get full SS retirement benefits to 67. The SS Trust Fund funds were invested in US Treasury Notes and when the Republic Party took over Congress in the Newt Gingrich Revolution in ’04 they started tapping the SS Trust Fund surplus to pay for their favorite programs and as a source of tax cuts for the rich, subsidies for oil companies, and changing how the profits hedge fund managers made were to be taxed (at 15% as “long term capital gains” instead of like normal income. That’s less than the lowest regular workers like us pay for income taxes even if we are in the lowest tax bracket!
So now, the Republic Party members of Congress, who during the Bush II Administration paid for two wars “off the budget” using “special appropriations,” repealed the laws passed during the Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt Administrations to end the casino that Wall Street was in the Roaring Twenties, which turned Wall Street into an even greater Casino than it had been in the 20s, which resulted in the Real Estate Boom of the OOs and the deep recession that started in 2004 but really took off in 2007 as the real estate bubble began to burst followed by the stock market crash in first months of 2008. At the same time the Republic Party and President decided to ‘buy” senior citizen’s votes by passing Medicare Part D, the prescription benefit, without raising any FICA taxes to pay for it.
Now the Republic Party is demanding cuts to Social Security, which is not contributing to the deficit in any way, except the trust fund is holding part of the national debt in treasury notes that will have to paid off to fund the Boomers when they retire and they want to turn Medicare into a $1.500 voucher that those under 55 would get instead of what retirees get now, mainly because they destroyed the solvency of it by adding Medicare Part D without any funding.
Honestly, I’m retired and the baby boomers are basically over 55 so it is our children and grand children that are being screwed by the Republic Party! So I shouldn’t give a hoot what they do as long as they leave me alone, but they are end our nation’s promises it makes to everyone who reaches the age where they qualify for these retirement benefits that they paid for all their working lives! The people who are really to blame for this mess are not the Democratic Party or President Obama, but the Republic Party and Pres Bush II who controlled the Congress from 1994 and all three branches of he government from 2000 to 2006. When they spent like drunken sailors on the national credit card!
Anonymous
Tea partying GOP reps among other elected GOP officials are employing similar tactics to shut down their opposition, convening town hall meetings and otherwise public events on “private” property such as in churches and then having peaceful dissenters among their constituency led out by police… along with reporters in some instances (or flat out denying media scrutiny of any kind).
Rep. Allen West had a reporter arrested at a PUBLIC town hall event for asking legitimate questions about the GOP vote to eliminate Medicare. She was subsequently charged with trespassing on private property and dumped in a jail cell overnight.
Rep. Daniel Webster threatened to kick out a town hall constituent for asking a respectful question about raising corporate taxes.
Meanwhile, Gov. Rick Scott had Democratic constituents ejected from a public event surrounding the signing of his austerity budget bill. He reportedly had a security detail scour the crowd for any “liberal looking” attendees (signs, buttons, shirts), intending to have them removed.
These are only a few examples, but numerous tea party elected officials are using the same tactic to isolate themselves and their minority of biblically minded supporters in a closed feedback loop.
‘Tis a far cry from the sight of screeching tea partiers demanding “free speech” while brandishing weapons at Democrat town hall meetings during the health care fiasco, isn’t it?
I imagine an investigation of the instances reported by various online news sources so far would make a great story, eh?… “Fascist Behavior Unbecoming of Purported Tea Party Constitutionalists”
This is absolutely ridiculous and I am sorry I did not find this article until now. I spoke with both the reporters, and they did not seem upset nor outraged at the time. It was a private event and was NOT only folks from the Tea Party. It was private because Justin had an open townhall just a few hours earlier. It was a Fireside chat and not a townhall. Those who attended know Justin and wanted a chance to speak in a relaxed atmosphere. Not to mention the event was posted all over the place and anyone who wanted to attend could have RSVP’d. There was a deadline of the day before for rsvp’s. I thought the event was one of the best I’ve ever attended and without those who wanted to do nothing more than cause an upset.
So you weren’t allowed in a private meeting? Boo hooo. And this is wrong why? Considering the private meetings the left has that doesnt allow right wing guys being a little hipocritcal arent we? But then again your lefties. it comes with the territory. Oh and please keep up the “tea bag” references in public. Its fun when I confront you jokers in public. All talk on the net but apologys and drivel when confronted in public. Way to stand up for your convictions. Oh I forgot you dont have any.