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Republicans target out of state Bridge card

Critics say withdrawals could be legitimate
By Todd A. Heywood | 05.09.11 | 8:35 am

Republican Sen. Rick Jones (R-Grand Ledge) and Rep. Dave Agema (R-Grandville) used their Facebook pages in the past week to draw attention to Bridge card holders withdrawing cash from out of state locations. The implication from the posts is that the withdraws are violating state law.

On his Facebook page, Jones said, “I have just discovered that bridge cards are being used in Florida, California, Nevada, Hawaii, and cruise ships. In January and February tax payers paid for 2 million dollars so that bridge card users could go on vacation!”

Agema, on his own Facebook account, wrote, “Just thought you ought to know – your Michigan Bridge cards for food were used in Florida from Dec-March of this year equaled about $2 million. It’s truly a great country when the poor can winter in Florida. California and Nevada were also hot spots. Even some in Hawaii! WOW What a country of abuse against taxpayers!”

In an e-mail to Michigan Messenger, Jones says his information came directly from Department of Human Services. “I have talked with DHS and confirmed that bridge cards were used in Hawaii, Nevada, California, and Florida and also cruise ships,” he said. “In January and February alone it is 2 million dollars!!! I will be working with the new director to fix the legacy of Granholm who allowed this to run unchecked.”

Jones also went public with his concerns, telling the Detroit News about the out of state spending. “The abuse of tax dollars must stop,” he said.

But Brian Rooney, director of policy and compliance at DHS, says the Republican lawmakers’ Facebook statements don’t present the whole truth.

First, the claim that someone used a Bridge card on a cruise ship is simply false. “It’s not correct,” Rooney said. “That happened in Missouri.”

Secondly, Rooney points out, there is no prohibition on those receiving benefits from using them in other states. In fact, he says, there are a myriad of possible reasons the benefits might accessed in another state — including job searches, relative visits and military families.

Rooney was unable to give a clear picture on how much money was being used in other states, saying that the department was in the process of reviewing it at that point. He did, however, note that if a person is receiving benefits from Michigan, but is out of state for more than 30 days, the benefits are legally stopped because the person is no longer considered a Michigan resident.

On top of that, Rooney says, the department is instituting two new computer programs which will allow the state to see if a person is getting benefits in other states — which is fraud — or if they are cheating the system by getting benefits from Michigan but living somewhere else.

Michigan is not the only state where lawmakers are raising such concerns. In Missouri, law makers and media outlets are making similar claims. But an editorial in the St. Louis Post Dispatch analyzed the data from that state:

The only way to get to $11.83 million in “welfare benefits” over three months is by including food stamps as “welfare.” Almost one in six Missourians depends on food stamps, which pay about $1.40 per meal.

Food stamps make up the largest part of public benefits — by far. In January 2011, a typical month, according to a Department of Social Services spokesman, $119 million in federal food stamp assistance was distributed by the state of Missouri.

Of this, less than 3 percent, $3.5 million, was spent out of state, with $2.6 million spent in bordering states.

Food stamp benefits can’t be cashed out at an ATM. They can be spent only on food, and not on liquor, cigarettes or pet food. There’s no fixed residency requirement, and households receiving food stamp benefits may have good reasons to use them across state lines.

The same is true for payments under the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, created by the 1996 federal welfare overhaul. Missouri households participating in the program receive an average monthly cash grant of $239, which can be accessed through many ATMs.

Missouri distributed $10.2 million in TANF benefits in January, again, a typical month. Of this amount, just 3.5 percent, $362,682, was spent out of state, with $251,631 spent in bordering states. One percent, $111,051, of TANF benefits was spent in non-bordering states. There were six cash withdrawals in Nevada and one in Hawaii, totaling less than $1,000.

Neal Rubin had a similar column in the Detroit News responding to Jones’ claims, arguing that some Republicans simply “want the poor to suffer.” He writes, “In the grand scheme of things, the $1 million spent on food out of state was peanuts: about one-fifth of 1 percent of the $520 million in food assistance for the first two months of the year. No one is using FAP at four-star restaurants on the Las Vegas Strip; the cards are programmed to work only in places approved by the federal government.”

Advocates for the poor in Michigan agree that real abuse of the system should be stopped, but that the mere assumption that any use of a Bridge card out of state is illegitimate is false and creates unnecessary stigma for those who receive benefits.

“We don’t want to defend anyone who is abusing the system, but these numbers don’t really prove anything. It seems more like a rush to judgment as part of an ongoing campaign to demonize poor people,” says Michigan League for Human Services spokesperson Judy Putnam. “It would make sense that people receiving benefits who live near our borders might be buying food over a state line and spending money ‘out of state.’ In Missouri, where similar claims were made, it was found that most of the out-of-state spending was near borders and the amount spent in ’vacation hotspots’ was minuscule.”

Comments

  • Anonymous

    This guy is delusional.

    Everyone knows those on food assistance don’t “winter” in Florida, they typically save up their food assistance all summer so they can winter in the Spanish or French Mediterranean.

    This guy really has nooooo concept of poverty, does he?

    Rick (or dick) Jones, and Dave Agema, I doubt you too know any truly poor people, so I’ll let ya in on something
    -

    - A large number of poor people, people on food assistance, have never left the midwest, let alone Michigan at all, let alone spending winters in Florida and on cruise ships.

    now why can’t we put a bunch of poor people in office that will carry out a similar assault on the wealthy instead of workers, the poor, old, students, kids, etc, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Dibert/100000856504338 Steve Dibert

    Looks like Agema and Jones have Foot-In-Mouth Disease.

  • http://profiles.google.com/wattervilleh Henry Waterville

    Judy Putnam claims. “…the amount spent in ’vacation hotspots’ was minuscule.”
    Great, but why were ANY public assistance funds being spent on vacation hotspots?
    WE know that there is some corruption in the system. Anytime that the government gives away money, there will always be a few crooked peoples who will be in line to pull a scam. The annoying thing to tax payers is that the bureaucracy that was created to give out the money seems to lack the enthusiasm and determination to prosecute individuals that are cheating.

    • Anonymous

      Any time there is a “vacation hot-spots” there are low wage workers. If someone traveled to a “hot-spot” to work, it would follow they would buy food. Perhaps some people actually have family that live there (like our Vegas relatives). Each case would have to be looked at to find out. Just because someone may have bought food or taken out money, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are fraudulently using the system.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WRMM7GXY4TFYFMFBHTKT7FBIS4 HollyHawks

    Missouri has 900,000 people on food stamps and it spent $119 million in January alone for this program. Michigan has over 2 million people on food stamps – what do you think they spend in food stamps for just one month? I know someone who receives $760.00 a month for food stamps plus gets WIC for two kids. This means they roughly get $1000.00 a month for food between the two programs. I don’t even spend that kind of money for food for my own family. Talk about abuse!!!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NX2VYE3EH5HXOTHEIEPC2RFG3E Michael

      Yes, they must be lighting food stamps like cigars and smoking them. Why don’t you and your Republican buddies create some jobs and a lot of these people might be working. But instead the Great Leaders of the GOP are reading the Constitution on the Senate floor, gutting Medicare, smashing Unions, and messing with Social Security. Talk about abuse!!!!!

      • Anonymous

        Create jobs! Are you kidding? Most of these cock roaches have never had a worker in the family in generations. Why get off your a$$ when you can just go to the mail box & cash the check at the local liquor store?

  • Anonymous

    What a farsical article. Mr. Heywood, the point of the legislators comments are the exact opposite of your sensational and purposely misleading headline. They are simply pointing out the misuse and abuse which occurs when you have an unchecked entitlement program designed to do good, which becomes a pot of free money for the undeserving who can obviously afford groceries if they can afford to vacation in those areas. It’s clear they intend to clean up the abuse and make it illegal for those who take the assistance when it’s obviously not warranted. You liberals never met an income redistribution program you didn’t like. Wake up. Please.

  • Anonymous

    What a farsical article. Mr. Heywood, the point of the legislators comments are the exact opposite of your sensational and purposely misleading headline. They are simply pointing out the misuse and abuse which occurs when you have an unchecked entitlement program designed to do good, which becomes a pot of free money for the undeserving who can obviously afford groceries if they can afford to vacation in those areas. It’s clear they intend to clean up the abuse and make it illegal for those who take the assistance when it’s obviously not warranted. You liberals never met an income redistribution program you didn’t like. Wake up. Please.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NX2VYE3EH5HXOTHEIEPC2RFG3E Michael

      Next thing they’ll be driving to the Welfare Office in brand new Cadillacs. Oh wait that was a lie too. Planned Parenthood is 90% abortions and on and on and on. You Conservatives have never met a lie you didn’t like. Wake up. Please.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joel-Brown/100001487831036 Joel Brown

        Michael, that’s no lie! When was the last time you were at the welfare office? More than half of the cars in the parking lot in Muskegon Mi last week were newer than 2009 and several were caddies and bmw’s. While I was waiting for my sister I wandered through the lot and made a count. My guess is that half of the people on welfare in muskegon could do without it, if they were forced to get a low paying job and work!

        • Anonymous

          In order to get TANF, unless a person is certifiably ill or disabled they have to work. Most states will sign you up for “make work” or require you to take classes if you don’t have a job. Welfare Reform mandates each state to observe certain standards- including work standards. Unless you are permanently disabled, you have a maximum of 5 years that you can receive benefits. If you stop getting them after a couple years and end up needing assistance again, the clock restarts and you only have another 3 years you can get assistance. It is not a picnic and anyone on assistance gets very little. On average in the US, a woman with two children will receive about $389.00 a month in cash assistance. That varies from state to state and can go down to as little as $120.00 a month for that same 3 person family. The cars you are seeing probably belong to the staff because no one receives enough cash assistance to afford a Caddie or BMW’s. If someone is cheating the system people that know it should be responsible enough to report the person for fraud. If no one does anything, they have no right to bitch about it. I once reported a woman who had 5 children, had a cash only business and lived with her carpenter boyfriend who made very good money. He paid the rent and other bills too but she didn’t report he was living there so she got a pretty good amount for a 6 person family. Since she didn’t accurately report her income form her business, she was able to buy a motor home while living on assistance. We worked hard in my family and couldn’t afford a motor home. I object to that kind of gaming the system.

        • Anonymous

          By the way- if a person applies for cash assistance, they have a maximum amount any car can be worth. If they have a car worth more than the maximum- they have to sell it and use any money they acquired before they would be eligible. However, if someone was only applying for food stamps due to a layoff or other job loss, they might own a nicer car. Might be trying to keep it too by finding a job.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1300831687 Jim Fuhrmann

    Holly I agree with you about the abuse but when you look into it 90% of the abuse comes from Woman that refuse to work no matter what race they are! If the Social workers did there jobs this wouldn’t be happening but they do not! I personally have watched my ex-wife lie on applications with the state and county together they made too much money so she left her husbands income off and when Kent County Head start looked at their income they said you do not qualify and then turned around and said oh you are on WIC and Food Stamps we will go through this loop whole and give you the educational benefits because you get state funding! She has done nothing but lie to the state and county governments, and the courts! When I caught her in a lie she told me”I do not lie to them I just tell them what they want to hear so I get what I want.” the saddest part of this she is coached on how to do this by the friend of the court workers and the workers of these programs designed to help the people in trouble. If the social workers in the departments of Kent County, MI where held liable for these abuses maybe it would stop! Make the workers of friend of the court and department of Human services repay any benefits that they gave out fraudulently and the people who received these benefits on the basis of fraud where put in jail maybe it would stop!!

    • Anonymous

      Dude, she left you and married someone else. Time to let go.

    • Anonymous

      Right Jim, some people do defraud the system.

      But what do you think our elected officials should be focused on

      A) Individuals like your ex-wife, who, while I can’t be 100% positive, isn’t wealthy, and uses the benefits she receives to improve the quality of life for herself and her family?

      Which would include paying salaries for people employed to investigate and prosecute such individuals, salaries and costs that are more than likely to cost more than benefits paid to those they’re going after.

      Again, your ex-wife probably isn’t wealthy, isn’t making 6 figures or living in a mcmansion or vacationing in Europe. Neither are any others that ‘scam’ the system. Most that do ‘scam’ the system are right on that edge of what qualifies for assistance.

      Remember, a family of 4 may need to be below a predetermined income of $20,000/yr (<– random number), but that family of 4 that pulls in $20,500 is deemed to well-off to qualify for the same assistance.

      OR

      B) Big business, the matty marouns, the koch's, the massive corporations, the banks, the speculators, the wal-marts, the hedge funds, or the energy companies – all of whom spend countless millions on teams of lawyers and lobbyists to exploit any and every loophole their lapdog politicians work into tax codes, labor laws, or environmental regulations.

      So that in the end, every single wealthy individual and corporation pays significantly lower tax rates than they deserve, lower tax rates than workers like me, you, and your ex-wife, if they end up paying any taxes at all.

      So, A, or B?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WRMM7GXY4TFYFMFBHTKT7FBIS4 HollyHawks

      The problem is that MI food stamp program is funded federally and administered via the state. So if abuse occurs it’s largely within the state in how it polices the program but also the feds are to blame in looking away from the issues at hand. I heard the other day that our gov. spends $400 Billion annually on food stamps for the 50 states. Something that big will have very little management oversight and abuse will undoubtedly happen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NX2VYE3EH5HXOTHEIEPC2RFG3E Michael

    Republicans lying for their own twisted interests. Unpossible!