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		<title>By: changeplease</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/4702/veterans-trust-in-mccain-misplaced/comment-page-1#comment-17398</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain has not only betrayed the Veterans&#039; trust, but also the trust of the American public. His integral part in the Keating Five scandal contributed to the meltdown on Wall Street today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The protestors outnumbered the &quot;by invitation only&quot; who were bussed in to the RNC, and the majority of those protesting were veterans. McCain had &#039;fake&#039; vets inside - actors. Both he an Palin are fakes with their carefully crafted public images. They can&#039;t afford to show their real Jekyl and Hyde faces. Corrupt politicians and liars the two of them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, but indeed they are soulmates. Palin enmeshed in Troopergate scandal, and he one of the original Keating Five in the S&amp;L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain has not only betrayed the Veterans&#39; trust, but also the trust of the American public. His integral part in the Keating Five scandal contributed to the meltdown on Wall Street today.</p>
<p>The protestors outnumbered the &#8220;by invitation only&#8221; who were bussed in to the RNC, and the majority of those protesting were veterans. McCain had &#39;fake&#39; vets inside &#8211; actors. Both he an Palin are fakes with their carefully crafted public images. They can&#39;t afford to show their real Jekyl and Hyde faces. Corrupt politicians and liars the two of them. </p>
<p>Oh, but indeed they are soulmates. Palin enmeshed in Troopergate scandal, and he one of the original Keating Five in the S&#038;L</p>
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		<title>By: changeplease</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/4702/veterans-trust-in-mccain-misplaced/comment-page-1#comment-11954</link>
		<dc:creator>changeplease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain has not only betrayed the Veterans&#039; trust, but also the trust of the American public. His integral part in the Keating Five scandal contributed to the meltdown on Wall Street today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The protestors outnumbered the &quot;by invitation only&quot; who were bussed in to the RNC, and the majority of those protesting were veterans. McCain had &#039;fake&#039; vets inside - actors. Both he an Palin are fakes with their carefully crafted public images. They can&#039;t afford to show their real Jekyl and Hyde faces. Corrupt politicians and liars the two of them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, but indeed they are soulmates. Palin enmeshed in Troopergate scandal, and he one of the original Keating Five in the S&amp;L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain has not only betrayed the Veterans&#39; trust, but also the trust of the American public. His integral part in the Keating Five scandal contributed to the meltdown on Wall Street today.</p>
<p>The protestors outnumbered the &#8220;by invitation only&#8221; who were bussed in to the RNC, and the majority of those protesting were veterans. McCain had &#39;fake&#39; vets inside &#8211; actors. Both he an Palin are fakes with their carefully crafted public images. They can&#39;t afford to show their real Jekyl and Hyde faces. Corrupt politicians and liars the two of them. </p>
<p>Oh, but indeed they are soulmates. Palin enmeshed in Troopergate scandal, and he one of the original Keating Five in the S&#038;L</p>
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		<title>By: changeplease</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/4702/veterans-trust-in-mccain-misplaced/comment-page-1#comment-3267</link>
		<dc:creator>changeplease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain has not only betrayed the Veterans&#039; trust, but also the trust of the American public. His integral part in the Keating Five scandal contributed to the meltdown on Wall Street today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The protestors outnumbered the &quot;by invitation only&quot; who were bussed in to the RNC, and the majority of those protesting were veterans. McCain had &#039;fake&#039; vets inside - actors. Both he an Palin are fakes with their carefully crafted public images. They can&#039;t afford to show their real Jekyl and Hyde faces. Corrupt politicians and liars the two of them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, but indeed they are soulmates. Palin enmeshed in Troopergate scandal, and he one of the original Keating Five in the S&amp;L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain has not only betrayed the Veterans&#39; trust, but also the trust of the American public. His integral part in the Keating Five scandal contributed to the meltdown on Wall Street today.</p>
<p>The protestors outnumbered the &#8220;by invitation only&#8221; who were bussed in to the RNC, and the majority of those protesting were veterans. McCain had &#39;fake&#39; vets inside &#8211; actors. Both he an Palin are fakes with their carefully crafted public images. They can&#39;t afford to show their real Jekyl and Hyde faces. Corrupt politicians and liars the two of them. </p>
<p>Oh, but indeed they are soulmates. Palin enmeshed in Troopergate scandal, and he one of the original Keating Five in the S&#038;L</p>
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		<title>By: vet4reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voting record on Veteran&#039;s issues:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain Has Voted To Cut, Eliminate, or Gut Veterans Health Care Funding At Least 27 Times. [HR 4939, Vote #98, 4/26/06; SCR 83, Vote #70, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #67, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #63, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #41, 3/14/06; HR 4297, Vote #15, 2/13/06; HR 4297, Vote #7, 2/2/06; S 2020, Vote #343, 11/17/05; HR 2863, Vote #251, 10/5/05; HR 2528, Vote #242, 9/22/05; HR 2361, Vote # 165, 6/29/05; HR 2361, Vote # 166, 6/29/05; HR 2361, Vote # 168, 6/29/05; HR 1268, Vote #90, 4/12/05; HR 1268, Vote #89, 4/12/05; SCR 95, Vote #40, 3/10/04; S 1689, Vote #379, 10/14/03; SCR 23, Vote #81, 3/25/03; S 2168, Vote #185, 7/7/98; S 936, Vote #168, 7/10/97; HR 3666, Vote #276, 9/5/96; HR 3666, Vote # 275, 9/5/96; HR 2099, Vote #466, 9/27/95; HR 4624, Vote #256, 8/4/94; HR 1335, Vote #97, 4/1/93; S 2884, Vote #226, 8/4/90; HR 2519, Vote #132, 7/17/91]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Was One of 13 Senators To Vote Against Increase In Veterans’ Healthcare. In 2006, McCain was one of 13 senators to vote against an amendment to add $430 million for outpatient and inpatient health care and treatment for veterans. Amendment passed 84-13. [HR 4939, Vote #98, 4/26/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Voted To Cut Funding For Veterans’ Healthcare. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment to strike a provision in the 2007 Budget that will hold farm programs, veterans, Social Security, and Medicaid hostage to rising health care costs by creating automatic cuts once an arbitrary level of spending is reached in the Medicare program. The amendment failed 50-50. [SCR 83, Vote #70, 3/16/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Voted Against Increasing Veterans’ Funding By $10 Billion. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment to eliminate a tripling of fees for veterans in the TRICARE health care program by raising the discretionary spending limit by approximately $10 billion. The provisions would have been fully offset by eliminating certain corporate tax breaks. The amendment failed 46-53. [SCR 83, Vote #67, 3/16/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Voted Against Veteran’s Healthcare Program. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment to make veterans’ health benefits a mandatory program, spending $104 billion over five years. The funding would have been offset by closing corporate tax loopholes and rolling back the Bush tax cuts for millionaires. Amendment rejected 46-54. [SCR 83, Vote #63, 3/16/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Voted Against A $1.5 Billion Increase In Healthcare For Veterans. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment that increased the discretionary spending limit by $1.5 billion to $874.5 billion to provide an increase in funding for veterans’ medical services. It would be offset by ending certain corporate tax breaks. Amendment rejected 46-54. [SCR 83, Vote #41, 3/14/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Failed To Vote To Support Healthcare For Veterans In Lieu of Tax Breaks For Millionaires. In 2006, McCain failed to vote on a motion to instruct conferees to insist that the tax reconciliation conference report includes funding to support health needs of veterans and military personnel in lieu of an extension of capital gains or dividends tax breaks for individuals with incomes of more than $1 million. Motion failed 40-53. [HR 4297, Vote #15, 2/13/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;· McCain Voted Against $19 billion For Military And Veterans’ Hospitals. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment that provided $19 billion for military and veterans’ hospitals, offset by limiting the dividend and capital-gains tax rates to individuals earning less than $1 million. Amendment failed 44-53. [HR 4297, Vote #7, 2/2/06]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain is riding his service as a sub for veterans advocacy - he never has,and never will be an ally to Veterans who are not millionaires that fly around in private jets.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- OIF Veteran for a Reality Check</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting record on Veteran&#39;s issues:</p>
<p>McCain Has Voted To Cut, Eliminate, or Gut Veterans Health Care Funding At Least 27 Times. [HR 4939, Vote #98, 4/26/06; SCR 83, Vote #70, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #67, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #63, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #41, 3/14/06; HR 4297, Vote #15, 2/13/06; HR 4297, Vote #7, 2/2/06; S 2020, Vote #343, 11/17/05; HR 2863, Vote #251, 10/5/05; HR 2528, Vote #242, 9/22/05; HR 2361, Vote # 165, 6/29/05; HR 2361, Vote # 166, 6/29/05; HR 2361, Vote # 168, 6/29/05; HR 1268, Vote #90, 4/12/05; HR 1268, Vote #89, 4/12/05; SCR 95, Vote #40, 3/10/04; S 1689, Vote #379, 10/14/03; SCR 23, Vote #81, 3/25/03; S 2168, Vote #185, 7/7/98; S 936, Vote #168, 7/10/97; HR 3666, Vote #276, 9/5/96; HR 3666, Vote # 275, 9/5/96; HR 2099, Vote #466, 9/27/95; HR 4624, Vote #256, 8/4/94; HR 1335, Vote #97, 4/1/93; S 2884, Vote #226, 8/4/90; HR 2519, Vote #132, 7/17/91]</p>
<p>· McCain Was One of 13 Senators To Vote Against Increase In Veterans’ Healthcare. In 2006, McCain was one of 13 senators to vote against an amendment to add $430 million for outpatient and inpatient health care and treatment for veterans. Amendment passed 84-13. [HR 4939, Vote #98, 4/26/06]</p>
<p>· McCain Voted To Cut Funding For Veterans’ Healthcare. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment to strike a provision in the 2007 Budget that will hold farm programs, veterans, Social Security, and Medicaid hostage to rising health care costs by creating automatic cuts once an arbitrary level of spending is reached in the Medicare program. The amendment failed 50-50. [SCR 83, Vote #70, 3/16/06]</p>
<p>· McCain Voted Against Increasing Veterans’ Funding By $10 Billion. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment to eliminate a tripling of fees for veterans in the TRICARE health care program by raising the discretionary spending limit by approximately $10 billion. The provisions would have been fully offset by eliminating certain corporate tax breaks. The amendment failed 46-53. [SCR 83, Vote #67, 3/16/06]</p>
<p>· McCain Voted Against Veteran’s Healthcare Program. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment to make veterans’ health benefits a mandatory program, spending $104 billion over five years. The funding would have been offset by closing corporate tax loopholes and rolling back the Bush tax cuts for millionaires. Amendment rejected 46-54. [SCR 83, Vote #63, 3/16/06]</p>
<p>· McCain Voted Against A $1.5 Billion Increase In Healthcare For Veterans. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment that increased the discretionary spending limit by $1.5 billion to $874.5 billion to provide an increase in funding for veterans’ medical services. It would be offset by ending certain corporate tax breaks. Amendment rejected 46-54. [SCR 83, Vote #41, 3/14/06]</p>
<p>· McCain Failed To Vote To Support Healthcare For Veterans In Lieu of Tax Breaks For Millionaires. In 2006, McCain failed to vote on a motion to instruct conferees to insist that the tax reconciliation conference report includes funding to support health needs of veterans and military personnel in lieu of an extension of capital gains or dividends tax breaks for individuals with incomes of more than $1 million. Motion failed 40-53. [HR 4297, Vote #15, 2/13/06]</p>
<p>· McCain Voted Against $19 billion For Military And Veterans’ Hospitals. In 2006, McCain voted against an amendment that provided $19 billion for military and veterans’ hospitals, offset by limiting the dividend and capital-gains tax rates to individuals earning less than $1 million. Amendment failed 44-53. [HR 4297, Vote #7, 2/2/06]</p>
<p>McCain is riding his service as a sub for veterans advocacy &#8211; he never has,and never will be an ally to Veterans who are not millionaires that fly around in private jets.</p>
<p>- OIF Veteran for a Reality Check</p>
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		<title>By: rural_americans</title>
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		<dc:creator>rural_americans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I want you to argue with them and get in their face”  -- Barak Hussein Muhammad Obama 2008&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In spite of corrupt media&#039;s attempt to obfuscate the reality, we all know the wackos who are the bedrock of the democrat party are the most dangerous people on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I want you to argue with them and get in their face”  &#8212; Barak Hussein Muhammad Obama 2008</p>
<p>Nice&#8230;</p>
<p>In spite of corrupt media&#39;s attempt to obfuscate the reality, we all know the wackos who are the bedrock of the democrat party are the most dangerous people on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: OIFVetForMcCain</title>
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		<dc:creator>OIFVetForMcCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane Sweet&#039;s article is written much like those written by other non-veteran anti-McCain journalists.  She concentrates on yes and no votes involving military and veteran issues without explaining any of the background behind them.  She didn&#039;t mention that there was already an abundance of body armor and helmets that just needed to get to the right place.  I know, because I was in Western Iraq and had to investigate theft, fraud and misdirected logistics.  Too, my wife and I are both veterans and receipiants of excellent VA health care and educational benifits.  We only wish our parents could receive health care on par with that of the Veterans Administration.  Ms. Sweet didn&#039;t mention that the Webb proposal for an enhanced GI Educational Bill had competition in the Graham proposed bill that would have still increased allowances in the interim and then increased them with greater military service.  With reenlistments greater now than they ever were, more veterans would have qualified for the greater allowances, and one time veterans would have still received more than the original Chapter 35 which was around $1100.00 per month per veteran enrolled full time.   Both proposals; James Webb&#039;s and Lindsey Graham&#039;s were good and veterans would have benifited mightily with either one.   Further, Ms. Sweet thinks that veterans are a one issue group; we’re not.   More than most, we care about the economy, an aggressive energy plan, individual rights as guaranteed by the Constitution that we swore to uphold, the safety and education of our children, tax breaks whenever possible, and the future security of our country which means a president who can stand up to the despots of the world and forge alliances with our allies.  Few veterans think Obama has those qualities; perhaps that is the reason veterans are voting for John McCain who was more than a POW.  McCain flew 21 successful combat missions over North Vietnam, served as a squadron commander after the war, and retired from the Navy after twenty years of incredible service before embarking on a long and successful career as a highly respected “working” United States senator who will soon be president and commander-in-chief.  Finally Ms. Sweet, if you want to get your statistics from a cross section of veterans groups, then don’t limit yourself to Vietnam Veterans of America;  ask veterans from American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Vets, and other OIF/OEF veterans organizations, including veteran student organizations why most of us are voting for John McCain.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Richard Najjar, OIF 2006/07, Ladys Island, SC, USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane Sweet&#39;s article is written much like those written by other non-veteran anti-McCain journalists.  She concentrates on yes and no votes involving military and veteran issues without explaining any of the background behind them.  She didn&#39;t mention that there was already an abundance of body armor and helmets that just needed to get to the right place.  I know, because I was in Western Iraq and had to investigate theft, fraud and misdirected logistics.  Too, my wife and I are both veterans and receipiants of excellent VA health care and educational benifits.  We only wish our parents could receive health care on par with that of the Veterans Administration.  Ms. Sweet didn&#39;t mention that the Webb proposal for an enhanced GI Educational Bill had competition in the Graham proposed bill that would have still increased allowances in the interim and then increased them with greater military service.  With reenlistments greater now than they ever were, more veterans would have qualified for the greater allowances, and one time veterans would have still received more than the original Chapter 35 which was around $1100.00 per month per veteran enrolled full time.   Both proposals; James Webb&#39;s and Lindsey Graham&#39;s were good and veterans would have benifited mightily with either one.   Further, Ms. Sweet thinks that veterans are a one issue group; we’re not.   More than most, we care about the economy, an aggressive energy plan, individual rights as guaranteed by the Constitution that we swore to uphold, the safety and education of our children, tax breaks whenever possible, and the future security of our country which means a president who can stand up to the despots of the world and forge alliances with our allies.  Few veterans think Obama has those qualities; perhaps that is the reason veterans are voting for John McCain who was more than a POW.  McCain flew 21 successful combat missions over North Vietnam, served as a squadron commander after the war, and retired from the Navy after twenty years of incredible service before embarking on a long and successful career as a highly respected “working” United States senator who will soon be president and commander-in-chief.  Finally Ms. Sweet, if you want to get your statistics from a cross section of veterans groups, then don’t limit yourself to Vietnam Veterans of America;  ask veterans from American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, American Vets, and other OIF/OEF veterans organizations, including veteran student organizations why most of us are voting for John McCain.   </p>
<p>Richard Najjar, OIF 2006/07, Ladys Island, SC, USA</p>
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