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DHS cuts off 18,000 college students from food stamps

By Todd A. Heywood | 02.09.11 | 1:03 pm

The Michigan Department of Human Services announced Wednesday that beginning in April college students will not be able to access food assistance programs, except in very limited situations.

Maura Corrigan, a former Michigan Supreme Court justice and director of DHS, issued a statement on the issue Wednesday morning. The program and the use of Bridge Cards by college students has come under withering criticism in recent weeks as a result of Republican lawmakers questioning the use of the federally funded program.

“We’re ready to extend a helping hand to any citizen who is truly in need – including college students who care for young children and are taking the right steps toward becoming self-sufficient,” Corrigan said in a press release. “But those who don’t meet federal guidelines won’t be able to take advantage of what is meant to be a temporary safety net program.”

The Food Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, serves almost 1.9 million Michigan residents, including more than 805,000 children. DHS administers this federally funded program and must follow federal guidelines for eligibility. Benefits are determined based on income, household size and other criteria, and can only be used to buy food.

Rep. Dave Agema (R-Grandville) last month became chair of the House subcommittee which oversees the DHS budget. At the time he declared that “fraud” by college students receiving food assistance was a top priority for him.

Here’s how the Lansing State Journal reported on a hearing Tuesday about the situation:

Though Agema is not sure how many college students are abusing the program statewide, he said he fears the state is wasting millions of dollars annually to provide the aid to students who don’t need it. Bridge Card recipients use the card as kind of an electronic version of food stamps, and critics say students of well-heeled parents are using the aid to pay for food and using their spending money for booze and parties.

“It’s an epidemic,” Agema said Tuesday at a committee hearing. “You can get this just by (applying) on the Internet.”

DHS reports that in 2009-2010 between 10,000 and 18,000 college and university students were receiving as much as $200 a month in food assistance.

Agema, a former airline pilot, has also made headlines recently for legislation he has introduced to eliminate the Michigan Health Fund Initiative and shift that nine million dollars into the Michigan Aeronautics Fund. He also introduced legislation to shift 80 percent of the state’s Natural Resources Trust Fund, which pays for parks and land conservation, to pay for road and airport improvements.

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  • Anonymous

    After reading this article, I deeply regret casting my vote for all you republicans, I am also extremely upset about the proposal to move money intended to keep Michigan beautiful (natural resource fund) is wanting to be transfered to make it even more ugly!? This is outrageous, less and less people are flying leave your former career where it belongs, former, this is obvious that Agema is doing this for himself and his buddies still in the airline industry. Michigan is known for its parks and beauty, lets keep it that way!

    • Anonymous

      I never voted for the Republicans and I hope everyone now realizes why I never will

  • Anonymous

    After reading this article, I deeply regret casting my vote for all you republicans, I am also extremely upset about the proposal to move money intended to keep Michigan beautiful (natural resource fund) is wanting to be transfered to make it even more ugly!? This is outrageous, less and less people are flying leave your former career where it belongs, former, this is obvious that Agema is doing this for himself and his buddies still in the airline industry. Michigan is known for its parks and beauty, lets keep it that way!

  • Anonymous

    The second largest terrorist organization in the world is the Republican Party followed by the US Federal Reserve Bank.

  • Anonymous

    This is very frustrating to many college students. The government keeps taking money away from us. First, we were promised $4,000 dollars to attend a public university and that got taken away yet funding is going to help those who have lost jobs in the automobile industry. Let me ask this, Who will be contributing longer to the state taxes and work force? There is no motive for young adults to stay in Michigan. Everything we have ever been promised by the government has been taken away. Not all college students who have a Bridge Card get extra money from their parents and spend that on parties and alcohol, I would bet very few do this. Giving each college student $200/month is a bit much, so why don’t we cut down the amount instead of eliminating this program for college students in general. In every college class you attend the professors always address that taking 15credit hours results in 45 hours/week of class and outside study for optimal achievement. Where does this leave time to find a job, or work enough hours to pay for school, rent, bills, etc? Either students who currently receive government assistance for food will start eating poorly and not enough and create more health problems, or do worse in their classes, have higher rates of anxiety, and more debt to get by. I do not know a college student who is not stressed about finances. I feel like the government is always working against the young adults instead of with them to promote a healthier economy in the future. Many of our problems in our state revolve around the fact that we are now a post-industrial society and we do not have the skills to fulfill the jobs that are currently needed. With proposed 20% cuts in teacher salaries and an overall diminishing economy, why stay in Michigan? If there were enough jobs in this state, college students would gladly take them, even part time, and would not need government assistance.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SNEWENYSF3SGAIMYFAWLWQCNKY First L

      I was just about to say exactly all of this. So thank you. And as a college student, I second every word.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1013697003 Karen Meier Yax

      Excuse me, but the government is NOT taking money from you. They are telling you the freebies and handouts are coming to an END. They are saying, we are done taking money from the people who actually earned it, in order to give it to you!!!!!!!!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KTT3654QBBYFADXKFMKUDORDKE G

        I don’t consider them freebies or handouts to the college students that have children and are trying to make a better life by attending school. I am 31 years old, have 2 kids and a 4.0. I was laid off from Beaumont Hospital and now I need some help. I think working my butt off in school is me working for my food!

        • Anonymous

          It didnt say it was stopping for ALL it says the ines that really need it will still get it so I guess you will be one of them that gets it then hmm… I love how the ones that really dont need it takes them anyway as if we owe them something. I went to MATC 4 years to be an RN. I had a husband and 8 children and still was able to get a 4.0 and didnt need a handout. Im not saying you but the ones that think this world owes them something. How much of the state is broke dont people get? When the money is gone its gone ther is no more to give. Once we finish off the rich in taxes then what? We will all be looking like some 3rd world country. Well Detroit already does. Once all the tax money gets waisted and we are all dead and our kids kids are left with what? a hand full of bills and waiste land like Detroit?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W7JCTXCYVVFEJSTAK6DJLMB3UU BEATRICE

          Congratulations…don’t quit!  The system is broken!!!  If I have two daughters; one gets pregnant and only works to make another baby; while the other attends school; working to better herself in order to do for herself, who ought to get food stamps?  We should give aid to those who need help; and give nothing to those who do nothing.  In fact, they should be made to give up the children for whom they are willing to do nothing!!!

          • Anonymous

            Just remember that everyone’s perception is different.  Someone who is judgmental might say you didn’t do your job as a mother.  The problem is, who are you going to trust to make those judgments?  Those judgments are a two edged sword.  I think you should try to help your daughter to make better decisions. I don’t think any one of us is perfect, and I seriously do not think taking a bunch of peoples’ children away is going to help anything.  Have a great day… 

      • Anonymous

        I will pray for you Karen – clearly you are lonely, angry and unloved.

      • Anonymous

        Shut up.

      • Anonymous

        The wealth producers in this country are underpaid because the top 1% siphon off 20% of our national income through dividends, interest etc. In classical economics, this is called economic rents and it’s about as healthy for an economy as an infestation of leeches is to your blood supply. Government programs partially correct the imbalance but we should all be paid more. No one should have to worry about retirement or medical bills. The system is rigged against Mainstream America and it’s past time to change the rigging.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BW54QMBKWPCKL6ARHYUWTNWU6A Kathy

        The GOP put policies in place that cost millions their jobs and twice as many to lose wages. You tell them it is all their fault, they should go back to school and get a skill. Then you reduce financial aide to attend school. Then you remove funding from education which raises tuition. Now you are telling them that they will have to come up with more money if they want to eat. Just how many road blocks are you going to give the victims of your policies. Most of these students and/or their families did earn it. Certainly did more to earn it than the rich did to earn the tax cuts that helped cause this financial mess.

        • Joe Sylvester

          The following statement is factually incorrect: “The GOP put policies in place that cost millions their jobs and twice as many to lose wages”.

          Welcome to the 21st century. We are feeling the growing pains of our economic evolution. With the advent of the modern furnace, chimney sweeps were no longer needed. Now with our vast technological advances we don’t need to pay a high school grad $40/hr to sweep a floor in our nations auto factories. 

          Do you know that over half of the pathetic job growth under Obama occurred in a Right to Work state; Texas. 

          I don’t blame you for practicing class warfare. Since the dawn of civilization it has been the practice of people to participate in it. It wasn’t settled then and it won’t be settled by me and you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N7E6DPGKMKIIF7XC4M5VLVRTM4 Amy

        They should have took it from these lazy ass people who have been having all these babies and sucking the system dry. What about these single people with fake addresses getting the card and them selling them for cash. THATS IS WHERE YOU START!  So many of these students are in debt and struggling, they are the future tax payers and contributors to society. My sis is counting the days untilsntil graduation so she can get the hell out of Michigan! 

        • Anonymous

          It is true that there are some people that abuse any system, however, many people that receive assistance are the working poor.  They do not make enough money from their jobs to provide for their families. Since welfare reform, the only way you can get money aid and not be working is if you are disabled, or you are caring for a child that is disabled and are required to be at home to care for that child.  Now our government is balancing the budget off the backs of college students, the poor, and the disabled.  But much of the problem is no one takes money from the rich oil companies.  Our government sold us out years ago to foreign countries, making it more economical for china and others to sell us goods then for us to make them ourselves. Do you know how much money we give away to foreign countries that do not even like us?  But since it is easier to blame everything on the poor, and convenient, because they have no money to fight for their rights, the govt just keeps taking more and more from people who do not have. 

      • Anonymous

        I’m sorry.  I just HAD to reply to this post from this women.  I have worked overtime and on Saturdays for a law firm for over 34 years – I have raised two boys on my own, and I don’t like hand outs, but if people that are getting disability that don’t deserve it at all (nothing wrong with them – just go to the right doctors to get those forms needed for the govt. – all paperwork!), and I have a curviture of the spine because I was hit from behind by a drunk driver, never knew what hit me!) and did NOT have insurance, as I had full coverage, does that mean that I DON’T DESERVE TO PICK UP FOOD STAMPS from the taxes I’ve paid in to all of these fakes?  You are trying to say that the govt. is giving handouts and freebies to people, and they want to stop.  Well, if they were going to stop it, they should have put an end to it a long, long time ago, as the world has become so wreckless now that people with REAL DISABILITIES, and people that REALLY NEED FOOD STAMPS after they have worked  ALL OF THEIR LIFETIMES, not wanting a dime from the Government, as it is demeaning to a few of us, should not get it????I think if you are going to comment, you’d better make your comment specifically to a certain group and not just YOU people in general!!!  I ACUALLY EARNED IT, so if I wanted to go to college now, it would n’t be fair for me to collect food stamps after all of the taxes I paid in for college student who did NOT need them?  What I think is that the government just needs a very strict guideline on the poverty level of people collecting benefits, and disabilities, working in a law firm I saw many, many fake ones go through, so , as hard as it may be, paperwork, paperwork, paperwork, and proof of eligibility needs to be shown to the government to get these benefits – DON’T RULE EVERYONE OUT JUST BECAUSE THEY GO TO COLLEGE!  GO AFTER THE ONES THAT ARE TEACHING THE TRICKS OF THE TRADE (THE GOVT. HANDOUTS), and the society that will be coming up with those families. They know every trick in the book when it comes to scamming the government, and they have been receiving benefits since they were born! MAKE IT HARD FOR THEM, NOT US!!

        • Joe Sylvester

          I think the point is is that nearly all are living on the largess of government as is (student loans they couldn’t get if not guaranteed by the government from the taxes of those evil prosperous people.) 

          Yes, you did pay in..but the amount you do pay in should be reduced to a much smaller number. Keep your own money. Don’t give it all to the government and expect 10 fold in the future.

          That mindset is harmful. 

    • Anonymous

      Well if it makes you feel any better, they are taking that away too. Job training and retraining funds are proposed for 100% elimination. Instead of stabbing your family and neighbors in the back, stay focused on the real enemy. Politicians, Democrats and Republicans, more beholden to their own career than the people they are elected and paid to serve, need to be shown the door – starting with Snyder and his baggers. http://www.firericksnyder.org

      No matter how weak and Wall Street the Democrats get, we can always count on the GOP to be 110% worse and insane to boot.

    • Anonymous

      thank you, you say exactly how I feel after reading this. I am a college student that heavily relied on my food stamps. Since they’ve been cut just because I go to college, I have been struggling even more. Hopefully someone will stand up to this crap one day.

      • Joe Sylvester

        They haven’t been cut because you go to college. They have been cut because you are a dependent. 

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5XSHJNI5MQNB43LPUFMLIKAWRA Shannon

          Interesting, I am a 42 year old woman, raised 4 children, I worked until i lost my job 2 months ago, and because i am going to college part time, i do not qualify for food benefits, my husband and daughter do, thank goodness.  I was told I had to have a job 20 hours a week to get any food assistance, that is stupid, if I could find a job I would have a job.  

          • Anonymous

            I was just told the same thing.  I’ve been working at the same job for over a year and a half averaging 15 hours a week. I decided to enroll part time in the community college to finish my associates degree. Now I don’t qualify for food stamps. my husband and 3 kids do, but I don’t. Nevermind that I’m not sitting at home on my butt and that I’m flippin’ burgers for minimum wage to earn money now. I now have to have them give me more hours at work, something I’ve been trying to do for a while now, for me to qualify again (of course, if I get more hours at work our foodstamps will go down because I’m making more money. Either way, my family looses.).

    • Anonymous

       Dear Sir,

      I totally agree with you. I’m out of this state the moment I graduate next year. God help those who stay. Emily

  • Anonymous

    What I don’t understand is how they can decipher between which college students need food assistance and who doesn’t. As a college student myself I am in need of these assistance and will be in a very tight finanical situation if my food assistance gets shut off. Personally, I think we need to get our word out and sign a petition or a protest of some sort, this is wrong and it needs to be stopped!

    • Anonymous

      First of all dont get all worried. They do actually and will actuallyfactor the same way they have. By your income ect.. You also have to understand when a state is broke its broke. Once we finish taxing the rich out of all their money if that ever happens (LOL) whos next? What will this country look like? What will you be leaving your kids? Sure it hurts but right now we all have to hurt if we ever want to get on our feet again. YI just dont get why people dont understand the money is gone theres no printing mill theres not money tree the government can pick.ITS ALL GONE!Good luck in school but better then that good luck finding a job for that college ed you are getting. With Obamas health care bill the health care system will be a mess when you are ready for work.

      • Anonymous

        I had to look at the banner. I could swear this is Red State. Broke? We’re not freaking broke – at least we weren’t until Snyder passed his tax cuts for business and decided to blow our schools, libraries, and cities to hell. Michigan legislators are the second highest paid in the country. Snyder’s appointees are getting paid 250K. The GOP voted down a 150K cap on EFM salaries. Why aren’t you yammering about being too broke to pay all of this? Obamacare? You mean Mitt Romney and Bob Dole’s health care plan.

        Good luck on finding a job because Clinton gave Reagan his dream and passed NAFTA . Trickle down Reaganomics gave away all of our jobs, and Wall Street defrauded everyone out of their pensions, equity and savings.

        Good thing we have people like you worrying about all those greedy college kids instead of the greedy crooks that are destroying our middle class and our country. Conservatives and tea baggers, half a brain at best.

        • Joe Sylvester

          LMAO…What a dumb myopic liberal or “Progressive” I guess is the cool thing to say now. You really believe Snyder has ruined Michigan in the extremely limited amount of time he’s been Governor? Get a grip. 

          • http://twitter.com/dkmich dkmich

            In the last six months, schools were slashed, unions attacked, and taxes were raised on seniors and poor people.   Unless aliens landed and nobody told us, that would make Snyder and his tea baggers the one.   Dumb and myopic as opposed to piggy and constipated.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/diane.bruder Diane Bruder

      We can and should sign petitions to recall Governor Snyder starting when it is legal to do so…July 1st…

  • Anonymous

    College students and food stamp abuse? Look at those who use food stamps who are not college students in Michigan. They won’t ever pay taxes, It is a way of life and taught to their children. I believe college students primarly are in the process of become wage earners and then tax payers. It is temporary !!!!!. The abusers are 35 and older who have never held down a job gone to college or even a tech. school to learn to become self sufficiant. Look at those people before looking at young college students trying to do the right thing, and move forward. (( Big Mistake )) Those who do vote will now vote those of you out who did the wrong thing. Those food stamp abusers don’t vote so you won’t get farther by cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    • Anonymous

      I used to work at a grocery store and you wouldn’t believe the abuse of benefits that goes on by grown adults. If i had a dollar for every time people bought others groceries in exchange in money for booze or drugs, I wouldn’t be in need of food stamps myself! I’m currently in college (which i’m paying for myself), working and trying to find a second job now, just to pay the bills. I agree, 200 is a lot of money, but there needs to be a better way than just cutting off all students without kids!

  • Anonymous

    My son is currently enrolled in one of Michigan’s state universities. He has been an honor roll student every semester since he started. He is now a Junior. He has an on-campus job and has had a full-time job each summer. When he enrolled, the university told us that our unmet need (which equals the sum of all costs minus all forms of aid, i.e. grants, loans and scholarships, together with the maximum family contribution according to the FAFSA formula) was $5000 per year. That was before the state of Michigan took away his Michigan Merit and Michigan Promise scholarships. His unmet need now exceeds $7000 per year. He has a bridge card. As of April, he will no longer be eligible. Is this the kind of “fraud” that Agema wants to eliminate?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1013697003 Karen Meier Yax

      I think what Agema and his constituents want is for parents to take care of their own kids and not expect the state to meet those “unmet needs”. Just sayin…

      • Anonymous

        so basically what you’re saying is people with rich parents are the only one’s that deserve a college education. I am 22 and work full time in americorps as a mentor coordinator at a community center and taking 17 credits this semester because i cant afford to spread my semesters out longer. Both of my parents were laid off three years ago and now are working jobs where they cant afford to help me or even themselves. By taking food assistance away less people can afford to live and go to college at the same time so they will choose not to go to school if that is the case then leading them to earn less money over their lifetime and be more likely to have to rely on government assistance in the future. would you prefer that? My boyfriend is the same situation a long with many people I know, parents lost their jobs first or second year into college and are now on some kind of assitance to be able to finish.

        • Joe Sylvester

          Some of these ‘progressive’ responses are so dumb. Yes, only rich kids can go to school?! Are you really that ignorant? Any poor kid in this nation can go get $40K in loans to go to school. It’s called Federal Aid…brought to you by the people that pay for their own kids to go to school, and yours!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon-Lamrock/547223608 Brandon Lamrock

            lol $40k?  That would only pay for 2 of my semesters at U of M.  You need $120k-$150k to pay for school at Michigan.  So your idea that $40k in loans is “the savior” is complete bullshit.  Unless you want to give up on your dreams of being an Engineer or a Doctor and just attend your local community college, cause thats what a $40k education buys you.

      • Anonymous

        What about parents who can’t meet “unmet needs”? I’m a college student, I work and am paying for school on my own. My parents don’t have the resources to help me out, yet I’m not eligible for financial aid or, now, benefits from the state. What happens when our young people can’t afford to go to school. This is not helping Michigan’s economy.

        • Joe Sylvester

          Do you think 40K in loans of which nearly no students would qualify for is not “help”?

      • http://twitter.com/Cassandrabuss Cassandra Buss

        Karen, what happens when a young person, like myself, does NOT have the parents who will help me out? I am a 4.0 honors student, a leader of two campus clubs, I volunteer every weekend, and hold a 10 hour a week job, use personal loans to pay my rent and tuition, and am now having to figure out how to pay for food. I do not drink or do drugs, I use coupons, and I do not abuse the system. I really think this decision should be one based on each individual student and their own circumstances rather than assuming every student has mommy and daddy to support them or super human abilities when it comes to going to school full time and working a job.

      • Anonymous

        whats ur deal karen, you never go to college or something. You seem to say some pretty ignorant things about college students. Parents should pay for everything? ur nuts, go to college and see how well it all goes for you. And you call us freeloaders, real nice. People that dont go to college arent the freeloaders right? Wrong, I live next door to a guy who is a bum, he never works and has no disabilities, but he’s receving finicial aid from the government. But I’m sure you have an excuse for him and others like him

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DBJHVWTUJVFP3BZ25B4EGAQ5UQ Bob Simonson

      You telling me that your son can not work a part time job that generates $7,000 a year? Or is it he can’t save $7,000 a year with his weekend playtime and clothing needs a typical college student places above all else?

      I did that an more when I was in college in the 1980′s and carried 15 credit hours.  I paid my own rent too, dorm and off campus.  

      • Anonymous

        Mr. Simonson,

        I’m sorry that I wasn’t more clear. What I am saying is that his total cost for college each year is $7000 MORE than what you get when you add up his scholarships, grants, loans, the amount he can earn (part-time during the school year and full-time during the summer), and the amount that we (his parents) can afford to contribute. That was before the most recent round of tuition and fee increases. We (his parents) have been sacrificing as much as we can to help, but he is still piling up future debt in the form of loans. I don’t know if you are aware of the fact that college costs have TRIPLED since 1980. In other words, in ADDITION to his current part-time schoolyear job and full-time summer job, he would have to find ANOTHER part-time job working 20 hours per week year-round at about $10 per hour to make up the difference (after taxes).

        Your story sounds sort of like mine. My parents weren’t able to help me financially at all when I went to college (late 70′s to early 80′s). I worked full-time during the school year (36-40 hours per week), carried 18 credit hours each semester, and worked 3 jobs (approx. 100 hours per week) during the summer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VJPKT2TYAODO5L5DWPOEOGNFNQ barry m

    This is typical goverment b.s.!!! The 18,000 college students don’t even represent 1% of the population that’s currently recieving food stamps. According to the article, it’s 1.9 million. And how many of those 1.9 million are drug addicts and baby machines? Selling their food stamps for cash to buy drugs and having one baby after another to get more assistance. And all the while, the govt turns a blind eye. Why aren’t welfare reciepient made to take drug tests???? I have to take random drug screens at my job!!! Oh well, we’ll never learn. I’ll keep paying my taxes so some other scammer can ply their trade.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1448183332 Kellen Dunkelberger

      The answer is that when they tried drug testing for assistance programs it only caught occasional marijuana users and significantly increased the costs of running the program. It’s more effective to not test than it is to test.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5D5TDUPXOJDICA3TRI2JZXK62I Tj

    Ranting on the internet > Going and actually doing something about it.

    • Anonymous

      Ranting on the internet > Going and actually doing something about it. Takes one to know one. Fail.  

  • Anonymous

    Shame on you, once again the abusers ruin for the people of occasional need. How about the people that live a lifetime on the program, and how the the State that can NOT seem to monitor the use and the fraudulent applicants, there are people that literally draw in three counties because we (the state) are not able to come up with a system of monitor…heres an idea, payback the promise so these kids can buy groceries

  • Anonymous

    Wow, heres and idea Michigan perhaps monitor the regular usage and the fraudulent receivers that have even been prosecuted in the past now…drawing in three counties. Why do we NOT have a system that monitors.

    Why are families that receive welfare for years and years entitled to 4 year Tuition paid college for their kids, while families or students in temporary need to better themselves get the crunch.

    Deli food, pop,pizza to go, this is daily and abusive too.

    Here’s an grandest plan, maybe we could provide a “promise ” budget for each of these kids to buy groceries Oops we took that too as they completed their commitment

  • Anonymous

    For everyone putting down Republicans they are trying to get rid of the people who don’t really need it. I am a student at Michigan State and have friends who have parents who make over 100k a year and get food stamps. Its has even became a joke with many on campus. So don’t blame any party, blame the people who are wasting your tax dollars.

    • Anonymous

      hi sparty. everyone is different. here in grand rapids, most of us don’t get money from our parents anymore. I’m not blaming anyone. Thats a narrow way to look at it. One person’s green is another persons purple. Your reality is different than mine. I’m a student at GRCC, I have mentally ill relatives and dont WANT their money. I’m 25, I work and go to school part time and take care of my ill brother with schitzophrenia, who has a bridge card as well. Thats all. I guess that makes me a “lazy freeloader” doesn’t it??

      • Joe Sylvester

        Take yourself off of the cross…

  • Anonymous

    For everyone putting down Republicans they are trying to get rid of the people who don’t really need it. I am a student at Michigan State and have friends who have parents who make over 100k a year and get food stamps. Its has even became a joke with many on campus. So don’t blame any party, blame the people who are wasting your tax dollars.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nefariously.plotted Ashley Hochstein

      You’re right. It is the same at Western. However, those of us that need it are screwed.

  • Anonymous

    I have never been approached by a “College student” offering to let me use their bridge card for a couple of bucks. How about looking deep within to that abundant number of individuals who constantly receive services, bridge cards, cash aid, section 8 housing, etc., frauduently without any repercussions. I’m sure you will find a fair minority of which are college students. At least the “College” students are working towards betterment of their lives.

    • Joe Sylvester

      People serving 20 yrs in prison that have found Christ and are taking college (or HS) courses are also trying to better their lives…whats your point?

  • Anonymous

    I am a college student. I’m 25 years old, and married to a 99′er–an unemployed machinist. I (inexplicably) only get 40.00 a month on my bridge card, but I really need it! I think it’s interesting that the right so successfully promotes the phantom of the Welfare Mother, or other needy freeloaders that supposedly exist in the majority of social service users.

    Many things are broken about our system, because our system is controlled by corporations and banks. How am I supposed to be self sufficient in the future, in a low or moderately paying civil service job (like a social worker, for example), AND pay student loans? I mean, come on. Something is terribly wrong with this country–and that something is capitalism.

    • Joe Sylvester

      The very fact that you said “Phantom of the Welfare Mother” probably means that you are one. I lived by some of these guttersnipe…they do exist…all over… and that’s a fact!

  • Anonymous

    The store owners who encouraged, and knowlingly participated in this scam should be actively pursued and prosecuted.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nefariously.plotted Ashley Hochstein

      It isn’t a scam if they had a legal card. These kids had legal cards. They would go in and buy slurpees and candy while chatting on their iPhones about the latest party. That is Kalamazoo.

  • Anonymous

    The store owners who knowlingly participated in this scam should be actively pursued and prosecuted.
    The selfish students and greedy store owners are stealing from those truly in need.

  • Anonymous

    I am a mother of two college students. My husband has been unable to work for over two years due to health problems. I was laid off from my job and am now working at a part time job because that is all that I can find. Without receiving any unemployment because I choose to work even though 1/2 the hours. My daughters desperatly need this assistance. We are unable to help them. I understand that there are students who really don’t need it (we know a few personally) however I believe that that amount is very small. My girls also work part time with a full class schedule. They need the help !

  • Anonymous

    I am a mother of two college students. My husband has been unable to work for over two years due to health problems. I was laid off from my job and am now working at a part time job because that is all that I can find. Without receiving any unemployment because I choose to work even though 1/2 the hours. My daughters desperatly need this assistance. We are unable to help them. I understand that there are students who really don’t need it (we know a few personally) however I believe that that amount is very small. My girls also work part time with a full class schedule. They need the help !

  • http://www.facebook.com/nefariously.plotted Ashley Hochstein

    I lost my food stamps. I am a student, but because of my poor health, I haven’t attended school since last winter/spring. I love off campus, and I have restrictions on how much I am allowed to work. I have to drive across the state to see two specialists. I have medical bills, utilities, rent, credit card bills, and student loans I have to pay. I use my credit cards to pay the difference because I make a max of $400 a month (doctor’s restrictions). My dad’s family disowned me because I am bipolar I, and they assume it means I am addicted to things. I couldn’t drink if I wanted to, and I’m not about to mix anything with Lithium. My mom has cancer and is supporting my little sister. I’m on my own. All of this had me qualifying for at least food assistance in the first place.

    I guess without kids, none of that is good enough.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sorry to hear your situation. The health system, the education system, the welfare system are all interconnected and they are messing everything up. I sincerely hope you can make it through. Good luck.

    • Joe Sylvester

      What state are you in that has food stamps?

  • http://www.facebook.com/nefariously.plotted Ashley Hochstein

    I’ve seen a lot of students here that were granted EBT cards because they lived in the dorms and didn’t work. I heard that there were people actually encouraging it.
    That is wrong.
    Denying people help just because of the status “student” on their file, even though they qualified by their circumstance alone?
    I don’t know which is worse behavior.

    • Joe Sylvester

      It’s not the fact that you are a student I believe. It’s the fact if someone is a dependent or not…just like how financial aid is determined. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/nefariously.plotted Ashley Hochstein

    I was told to apply for SSI and disability. I always thought that if I just kept trying, food stamps would be enough and I would eventually make it. Guess that really isn’t realistic anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I definitely support the food stamp program; however, it was never designed for college students. Policy prohibited it except in certain circumstances, such as working 20 hours a week or having small children. The policy then said certain education programs could be approved if they enhanced employability. It came to be interpreted as any college program enhanced employability so original policy of excluding college students was virtually being ignored in the state. I feel this change is just the correct implementation of federal policy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Swingjr/100001740022958 Terry Swingjr

    I dislike this, their are reasons why many college students cannot find employment, as well as why 10.7% of the population cannot find work. it is because jobs are becoming harder and harder to get a hold of. I do not have a car or license. so i cant even get a pizza delivery job, and all the places around the dorm i live in( more like apartments) do not have any openings, and i try basically every month to go and see if they have jobs, how about instead of cutting off every single student, schedule a interview, after all you need to put a phone number and mailing address on the application of benefits. as well as mentioned before, what about those abusing the program, i know personally someone who is over 400 pounds and refuses to even do anything to loose weight, yet expects the government to basically cover his bills. he gets free room and board as well as food benefits, yet he can keep them, and me who cant get a job, living half the state away from my mom, cant keep my benefits?

    cut down yes, shut off? no. determine need by interview, and place more restrictions on what can and cant be purchased with the food benefits program.

    • Anonymous

      Dear Sir,

      Hell yes! Restrict the program, don’t completely shut it off. I absolutely agree with you. They could make it so that the EBT card wouldn’t be able to purchase the junk food, and that right there would help save money. If they could just help provide the healthy food essentials, that would probably fix a lot of problems. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terry-Swingjr/100001740022958 Terry Swingjr

    I dislike this, their are reasons why many college students cannot find employment, as well as why 10.7% of the population cannot find work. it is because jobs are becoming harder and harder to get a hold of. I do not have a car or license. so i cant even get a pizza delivery job, and all the places around the dorm i live in( more like apartments) do not have any openings, and i try basically every month to go and see if they have jobs, how about instead of cutting off every single student, schedule a interview, after all you need to put a phone number and mailing address on the application of benefits. as well as mentioned before, what about those abusing the program, i know personally someone who is over 400 pounds and refuses to even do anything to loose weight, yet expects the government to basically cover his bills. he gets free room and board as well as food benefits, yet he can keep them, and me who cant get a job, living half the state away from my mom, cant keep my benefits?

    cut down yes, shut off? no. determine need by interview, and place more restrictions on what can and cant be purchased with the food benefits program.

  • Anonymous

    I am so disgusted with what is happening. It’s unfair to assume that all college students are taking advantage of the system. If strick regulations were placed on food stamps in the first place we wouldn’t have this problem; if a thorough background investigation was done before handing out food stamps to young people then we wouldn’t have to take it away from the needy ones now.

    Down with republicans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1231849780 Holly Neville

    Do you want to know something really ludicrous? I called DHS early today, and asked them what were the stipulations to receive food stamps as a student. They basically told me you have to be in a work study program (Which working hours will lower your benefit amount to nearly nothing) or have a child. So i told her, i’m 32 years old, recently unemployed, and advised by the state to go back to school since there were no jobs in Michigan. Which i did, i’m now in my 2nd year of school since being laid off. I’ve worked since i was 16 years old, never drawn anything from the state, yet they cut people off like myself. So i said to her, basically what you are telling me, is someone like myself who has only given to the state since i started working isn’t eligible for help, but if i went and spread my legs to every man i came acrossed until i got pregnant then you’d help me? She laughed, and said, sadly yes. She didnt agree with the changes the state made either, but unfortunately there wasn’t anything she could do about it. So sad, and even more sad is my aunt by marriage, is the niece of Rick Snyder, so I’m related by marriage to that imbecile. Sigh.

    • Anonymous

      Ouch! You’re related to that monster?! My condolences.

      Not to mention, to us women who have been careful about not getting pregnant until we are ready, there’s the issue of the programs that help women afford birth control that are under attack recently. There’s no way to win, eh?  

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if that includes the illegals that are in our state, reaping the benefits while the tax payer takes it in the but again. Social security, welfare, education, etc. It really makes me mad that our state is going broke and they don’t look at the REAL PROBLEM. how come everyone else sees them, but nor our elected officials, because their looking for re-election it’s all political. Every where you go it’s a politics as usual.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1231849780 Holly Neville

    No, actually, non-citizens can come over here, apply for food benefits and receive them without even having a visa! Yet those of us, whom are trying to better ourselves and become productive members of society can’t receive any aid. Its preposterous, all the politicians are doing is making the gap between the poor and rich even larger. Until they get their priorities straight and realize that what they are doing is only putting the country under more stress, nothing will improve!

  • Anonymous

    Well I am a displaced worker and now a full time college student, I work every weekend and go to school all week , I bring home less them $500 a month and my rent is $350. I am 48 yrs old my surviving parent is on social security and really not able to help me with my situation, I was recieving food stamps but recieved a letter imforming me that because I am a college student I no longer qualify. I need those food stamps to survive. I can not quit school as I signed a contract with TAA to complete my degree if I entered the program or pay them back all the moneys spent on my classes thus far. I am on food stamps because I am poor not because I am a student . This is rediculous. I cannot even get my case worker to return my calls, I have left many messages. Apparently they were told to pull the plug and ignor all complains. If you are a young student and your parents are claiming you on there taxes and paying for your education then no you should not be able to get food stamps but that is not my sitituation so why was I taken off my benifits??? I guess when I have to chose between my rent and food I will end up living in my car. Nice situation for someone who has paid taxes for 32 yrs. Thanks Governor.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t forget though there are some of us young’uns that are on our own too, who don’t necessarily have their education paid for by their parents.  

    • Joe Sylvester

      *rolling my eyes*

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LKNB6TJR7GBQAFZPDIVAZVM27E Demps

    I have a boyfriend who is just about to complete his bachelor’s in fall of 2011, and then do OCS for the marine corps. He currently has no permanent residence except his on campus apartment which after every fall/winter semester he has to move out of and into a new one for summer, and then move again for the fall/winter. His mother died years ago and he was awarded by the state so he has no dependance on anyone. I still currently live with my mom and go to school and work part time so its not like I have a place for him to go. Is he still going to qualify for his food stamps or will he be taken off? Because I can not find any information on these guidelines! He only has two more semesters and once he joins the marines OCS there will be no need for him to be on food stamps.

  • Anonymous

    The real questions is WHY does it cost so much to attend school? Many of these schools are sitting on mountains of cash!!! If you can make the grade and work hard, you should not have to STARVE for an education. ASK YOUR UNIVERSITIES why they continue to raise their rates faster than the cost of living!! THEY are in bed with the left-wingers. I worked my way through 8 years of school with little aid and no parental help but that was 25 years ago. It costs 3 times as much now- WHY??? HOW can these schools get away with this???

  • Anonymous

    I am a student at NMU, i have been going to school non stop for 2 1/2 including summers and carrying a 3.5 GPA, The bulk of my studies take place in the monthe of April. With no warning i know have no food stamps and no money because it cost over 9,100,00 dollars this semester.

    I have been doing everything i can to graduate. I have over 40,000 dollars in student loans. If i stop school to work full time and pay for the long hall of school, i wiil be worse off because i have to pay the loan back, so if i make 8.50 and hour i will be worse off than before i started school over 2 years ago and living in my car in the woods.

    These are the same people who sent my job overseas and caused my bankruptcy and forclosure.

    I will graduate with degrees in molecular biology and clinical laboratory science,

    I will not pay one tax dollar in michigan.

    REPUBLICANS; FEEDING THE WORKING POOR TO THE RICH DAILY.

    THE DAY I GRADUATE, IS THE DAY I LEAVE THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND YOU SHOULD TO!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      What did you say? I hope your taking a grammar class while your on my dime.

      • Anonymous

        Dear Sir,

        “Your” vs. “You’re.” Why don’t YOU take a grammar class before you critisize?

        Good luck.  

      • Anonymous

        your an idiot

    • Joe Sylvester

      Good riddance…save the money for postage. Don’t really care to hear from you. 

  • Anonymous

    I wonder what percentage of current college students who receive assistance are planning on staying in the state upon graduation to help pay back into the system, they got help from. A good majority of students here who get state help have absolutely no plans on being in Michigan, to pay one tax dollar to help the next kids comming through. That’s how the state is probably looking at it. (We spend Michigan tax dollars from Michigan residents to feed students who plan on leaving here as fast as they can an not contribute to the Michigan economy. You don’t think the state looks at that?)When you leave you take projected tax revenue with you (income, homes etc). Students, please be just as passionate, upon graduation, about finding jobs in Michigan to help bolster the economy and system. I’ve never understood the thought process that “I can take out 40k to 50K in student loans for my education but not take out loans to feed myself.” “I don’t expect the state to provide me with a free education but I do expect the state to feed me for free”… hmm. Just saying.

    • Anonymous

      40k-50k x thousands of students vs. $200/month x 9 months x 4 years=$7,200 x thousands of students. Which amount do you think is more reasonable for the system to handle?   

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobeekay.clark Bobee-Kay Clark

    Passing out food stamps based upon who has procreated is silly. It just is. Food stamps should be distributed to those in need, regardless of race, fertility, or gender. U.S. citizenship should be required to receive food stamps. I would rather college students receive aid over the merely unemployed; not only are students investing in themselves, they are investing in our nation’s future. The least we could do is make certain they have food in their bellies.

    • Anonymous

      I would tend to agree with you except for the “U.S. Citizen” requirment. What about permanent residents?  

  • CarmanK

    Food stamp programs are subsidized by the fed. This is just another way for the republicans to stick it to the poor, the struggling youth (they usually vote democratic) and children. I don’t believe that any of these christian righters believe in a just GOD or they would be shaking in their boots for the immoral and inhumane governance they are imposing on the people of MI. Republicans don’t know how to govern, they are dictators and fascists at the core. They are social darwinists and if they had been the first at Plymouth, the pilgrims would have all died and we know the merchant class was not at Valley Forge because they were busy supplying the King’s garrisons in Philadelphia. GO WI, your country needs you now!!

    • Anonymous

      Exactly! Wasn’t is Jesus who said “heel the sick, feed the poor”? What hipocrites some Republicans are, jeesh.  

      • Joe Sylvester

        Jesus did not condone the robbery of Peter to pay Paul. Please consider re reading the new testament. The notion of socialism did not exist in that time. That evil hadn’t popped up until fairly recently in human history. 

    • Joe Sylvester

      Stick what to the poor? By definition the poor have nothing unless it’s given to them.

      • CarmanK

        That’s just not true. there are a lot of hard working people who are poor. Poor could mean lack of the necessities, it does not mean they have “nothing”. And many times, it is the minimum wage workers in this country that live below the poverty line. That does not mean they are standing in line for handouts. It means it is harder for them to afford basic necessities because of the standard of living in the US and the costs of goods sold. Reagan demonized the poor for political and financial gain. He had to make them the enemy, in order to ravage programs that saved lives and cared for children. It was  a whole lot easier for the public “to hate” the WELFARE QUEEN riding around in a cadillac, than to admit that in the richest country in the world-children go to bed hungry.

  • Anonymous

    Quoting from the article:

    “Though Agema is not sure how many college students are abusing the program statewide, he said he fears the state is wasting millions of dollars annually to provide the aid to students who don’t need it.”

    This is not responsible oversight, but paranoia. Come back, Rep. Agema when you have some facts to support your wild-eyed fears.

  • Anonymous

    Everybody wants a handout without any responsibility. I have heard the college students calling these food cards their “beer and Pizza card” I worked for that money they are spending and feel they should respect the handout.

    • Anonymous

      I was under the impression that alcohol was not on the list of things that can be purchased with an EBT card. Your “beer and Pizza card” quote is unfounded. As a college student myself, I used my EBT, before it was taken away, to purchase break, milk, orange juice, cheese, cereal, etc. I didn’t buy the junk you seem to think all college students buy.  

      • Joe Sylvester

        You two have both extremes…one implies it’s all abuse and the other is a perfect Christ-like angel with her welfare. The truth is somewhere in the middle and ALL fraud needs to aggressively be nipped in the bud. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Holly-Talentavenue/100001972556634 Holly Talentavenue

    The problem is Charmanx,  not all students abuse it,  and they have created a blanket statement that all students were abusing it when they decided to cut everyone off.  Some of us are older,  not dependent on our parents anymore and are trying to make life changes after unforseen circumstances due to the economy.  I’m 32,  unemployed,  told by the state to go back to school until the economy improves.  They helped me plan my return to school, set me up with food stamps and told me to get my degree while being unemployed.  Now they decide that students are abusing the system and because i don’t have any children and am in school, i can’t receive any help.  Even though they are the ones that suggested i do this in the first place!  Its pretty simple really,  they can access our FAFSA forms,  see whether we receive any income from our parents, whether we are financially needy and award aid based on that.  They are being lazy,  trying to save the state some money, so that they can cut taxes for high income individuals as usual.  That’s whats wrong with this capitalistic country we live in,  Rich get richer, poor get poorer.  Might as well bid farewell to the Middle class,  its disappearing.

    • Anonymous

      Hear hear! However, it’s not only the ”mature students” that are losing out. I’m only 21 but I’m pretty much independent. (I do get help from my parents on occasion but not always, as they are both struggling to get by). I got my EBT to help my parents, and myself. I was working maybe 10 hours a week at Taco Bell this past semester, if that, because I was taking 19 credits and had little time to devote to more hours at work. So they took away my EBT because I wasn’t working the minimum 20 they require for a student to still be able to receive assistance. Nonsensical, right? *Waves to middle class*

      • Joe Sylvester

        Hunny, I have news for you….if you are working 10 hrs a week, you are not even close to independent. Let’s be real here. You can’t expect people to take you seriously if you are spitting out that nonsense. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/lynette.catt Lynette Catt

    Lets penalize our young generation for actually wanting to better their education, lets demotivate them and get them to NOT want an education.  Wow! Good job Michigan!

  • Anonymous

    I believe that in order to apply for food stamps, many should have to be first employed and go one case at a time.  Not everyone deserves the right to have their food stamps or bridge cards eliminated. I know plenty of people who do nothing but collect from an already over-burdened system.  Yes, we need reform, but how many people actually need or deserve the aid offered.  I am going to college, single mother of one and having to work a part-time job I hate.  I don’t get paid enough to make ends meet.  I feel sorry for the kids whos parents cannot afford to help them.  My parents are dead, so no help there. I will be lucky to find a job closer to my home, so I don’t waste money on gas getting to-and-from a minimum-wage job.  I can’t afford to work, but I can’t afford to quit.  I think Snyder and his consituents ahould have their paychecks lowered, so they can see what it’s like for the other people out there trying to better themselves and get off govt. programs.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/devenyroberts Deveny Roberts

      If people were employed they wouldn’t need food stamps!

  • Anonymous

    I am simply disappointed in the system it rewards pregnancy, low income, and the uneducated. 
    When assistance is needed to keep the middle class which drives the economy afloat they are seen as the rich sector caught in the MIDDLE and the class experiences the highs and lows… Can’t afford to pay for college for our children or provide the additional assistance to make it thru our children become the next poverty group….
    My daughter no assistance she wasn’t pregnant, graduated and her family was not on state help so NOTHING she couldn’t meet the tuition couldn’t afford not working and without working she was unable to attend college a vicious circle now she does have 2 kids and collects state benefits? How does this work about being proactive? 

  • Anonymous

    Agema seems to be a typical upper middle class white male who has no idea what goes on in the lower classes.  No, Mr. Agema, you don’t simply just apply for Food Assistance on the Internet and magically start getting benefits.  I notice there is no reference to where he got that idea or statement, so I can just as easy pull the “bulls_it” card and claim he is using false information.  The current system drags you kicking and screaming into the Department of Human Servcies (DHS) office, where you sit among the people of the lower classes of whom also are there with their story of poverty.  Mr. Agema, an airline pilot (who has most likely never even been close to poverty before)… let’s see what does a pilot make these days?  Somewhere in the 6-figure neighborhood or better I suppose.  And what up-bringing led him to this vocation?  A little digging might find that he is decendent of other rich, well-to-do upper middle class whites, who by simple social status have no clue what the lower middle class and poor go through.  Believe me, after going through the DHS system, it is NOT just some simple log-on-to-the-Internet system.  The system is ugly, it is an abusive govermental program that people like Mr. Agema dictate to and manage from afar, as if it is some kind of icky-poo thing.  I think the reform that needs to be put in place would be to have some of these well-to-do politicians take a day trip to the DHS waiting room and spend some time seeing just how screwed up this system is, and… what needs to be done is to create some type of work-able incentive to help people do for themselves and get off the government welfare roll.  One thing people do is to go to college.  There should be a positive push for those willing to better themselves, it is a model that should be expounded upon.  The people who burden the system aren’t those trying to better themselves, but rather those who have no incentive to change, and have learned through behavioral conditioning to accept welfare as a lifestyle.  People need to get up, stand up, and do for themselves.  Big government of the Democrats is not the answer, and the distancing rub the Republicans put on the lower classes will never work.  The government as a whole is broken, corrupt, and wasting trillions.  Meanwhile, as the wise man said said, we will always have the poor.  I am simply amazed at the prejudices toward the poor in our society. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/devenyroberts Deveny Roberts

    I’m a student trying to make a better life for myself. I thought I was doing the right thing by telling my worker I was in school. I’m homeless and depend on those food stamps because at the time the soup kitchens serve I’m in class. I can’t go to churches because what am I supposed to do with all that food they’ll give me? I don’t have a can opener with me all the time. No way to cook it. At least with food stamps I can go to a gas station or a store that has sandwiches. Thanks for screwing me over again Michigan!