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Incoming Senate Judiciary chair has medical pot law in his sights

Wants taxation, tighter regulation
By Todd A. Heywood | 01.03.11 | 7:48 am

LANSING — Senator-elect Rick Jones (R-Grand Ledge) thinks the legalization of medical marijuana in Michigan has been done in a haphazard manner and needs to have proper oversight and regulation in place to prevent negative outcomes.

In an interview with the Michigan Messenger, Jones identified several areas of concern where he hoped the new legislature might provide some clarity in terms of what the law allows or requires. On the plus side, he pointed out that the new legal reality could provide new revenue for the state.

Under Michigan law, there are two types of people who can possess medical marijuana, the patient and the caregiver. The patients can either grow up to 12 plants at a time in a locked secure facility, or obtain the drug from a caregiver. A caregiver can grow up to 12 plants per patient and is limited to five patients. The same secure growing rules apply.

The law prohibits a care giver from selling the medical marijuana, however, he or she is allowed to charge the costs of growing, preparing and delivering the drug to patients. A thread on the Michigan Medical Marijuana Association website indicates that many care givers have established their costs to be $300 per ounce.

One caregiver wrote on the thread he expected “to clear $18,000 a year” with the $300 per ounce cost recovery. That in turn raises an issue.

Michigan is facing a significant budget shortfall again next fiscal year, estimated at $1.7 billion. As of now, the Michigan Department of Treasury has no guidance on taxation for medical marijuana income for caregivers.

The Denver Post reported in November of this year that taxes on medical marijuana dispensaries had resulted in $2.2 million in tax revenue for local and state government in Colorado. While that is a tiny amount of the budget gap that state faces — estimated at $1.8 billion — it could be an indicator of a new revenue stream for state government.

Jones says extending a sales tax to medical marijuana was not an option. “If it truly is a prescription we don’t tax prescription drugs,” said Jones.

But Jones says the money made by caregivers should be taxed by both the federal and state governments. Currently the Michigan income tax is 4.35 percent, according to the state of Michigan website. The federal income tax rate is between 10 percent and 35 percent depending on the actual income according to moneychimp.com.

The incoming lawmaker also said the income from medical marijuana caregiver activities should also be subject to business taxes just like any pharmaceutical company in the state would be subjected to.

“There’s no need for a specific new law on this. If the generally applicable laws on taxes apply, they apply and should be paid. If not, they don’t,” says Mike Meno, spokesperson for the Marijuana Policy Project in Washington D.C. “It should also be pointed out that you can’t really pay federal taxes on something that the federal government still says is illegal.”

But at the state level, all such activities should already be taxed under existing law, according to Michigan Treasury spokesman Terry Stanton.

“There is no provision in the statute that indicates an exemption to income tax or the MI Business Tax,” Stanton told the Messenger via email. “If profits derived as a licensed grower/provider meet the threshold of being subject to tax, the entity in question would be responsible for filing an MBT or income tax return.”

But Jones says there are several other aspects of medical marijuana legalization that need to be addressed, calling the laws that regulate this exchange far too vague.

“I think the problem is from the way the law is written. It was written by people who want to legalize marijuana,” said Jones, who last Monday was appointed to chair the state Senate Judiciary Committee. “So it was written into a gray area.”

Jones said the gray area law had lead to a “wild, wild west” situation with the implementation. It leaves local governments struggling with issues such as compassion clubs where medical marijuana products can be consumed onsite as well as dispensaries where medical marijuana is transferred from caregiver to patient.

The state has already seen a variety of responses by local governments dealing with the law. Some have banned the growing of marijuana altogether, while others have sought moratoriums while they find ways to regulate the businesses, and others still have done nothing at all. Those new regulations have also lead to a series of lawsuits in state courts.

The three term state representative and former Eaton County Sheriff says that locations that allow consumption onsite are a threat to safety.

“It’s foolish and dangerous,” Jones said. “I would hope we would regulate that.”

“We don’t require patients to take any other medicine only at home, so why force this restriction on medical marijuana patients?” asks Meno. “Michigan’s law does not allow public use or driving under the influence, but if an HIV or MS patient has to travel to a friend or relative’s house, why would we cruelly and unnecessarily forbid them from taking their medicine there? That should be the business of the patient and the home owner. There is no reason the state should get involved and make the already challenging lives of seriously ill patients any more difficult.”

Comments

  • Anonymous

    HILARIOUS!!! Once again, leave it to republicans to fuck up a perfectly good new industry in Michigan. Store fronts that have been closed for YEARS are now open again and paying property taxes. Weed and movies are just about all we have now and they continue to throw monkey wrenches into it.

  • Anonymous

    If you support prohibition then you are NOT a conservative.
    Conservative principles, quite clearly, ARE:

    1) Limited, locally controlled government.
    2) Individual liberty coupled with personal responsibility.
    3) Free enterprise.
    4) A strong national defense.
    5) Fiscal responsibility.

    Prohibition is actually an authoritarian War on the Constitution and all civic institutions of our great nation.

    It’s all about the market and cost/benefit analysis. Whether any particular drug is good, bad, or otherwise is irrelevant! As long as there is demand for any mind altering substance, there will be supply; the end! The only affect prohibiting it has is to drive the price up, increase the costs and profits, and where there is illegal profit to be made criminals and terrorists thrive.

    The cost of criminalizing citizens who are using substances no more harmful than similar things that are perfectly legal like alcohol and tobacco, is not only hypocritical and futile, but also simply not worth the incredible damage it does.

    Afghani farmers produce approx. 93% of the world’s opium which is then, mostly, refined into street heroin then smuggled throughout Eastern and Western Europe.

    Both the Taliban and the terrorists of al Qaeda derive their main income from the prohibition-inflated value of this very easily grown crop, which means that Prohibition is the “Goose that laid the golden egg” and the lifeblood of terrorists as well as drug cartels. Only those opposed, or willing to ignore this fact, want things the way they are.

    See: How opium profits the Taliban: http://tinyurl.com/37mr86k

    or: A GLOBAL OVERVIEW OF NARCOTICS-FUNDED TERRORIST GROUPS
    http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/pdf-files/NarcsFundedTerrs_Extrems.pdf

    According to data gathered by privacy expert Christopher Soghoian (PhD candidate at Indiana University), 85-90% of real-time surveillance of your Internet communication is wasted on prohibition enforcement.
    youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jJDCxzKmROY#t=342s
    - he discusses drug related Internet wiretaps at 5min 42sec

    Prohibition provides America’s sworn enemies with financial “aid” and tactical “comforts”. The Constitution of the United States of America defines treason as:
    “Article III / Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

    Support for prohibition is therefor an act of treason against the Constitution, and a dire threat to the nation’s civic institutions.

    The Founding Fathers were not social conservatives who believed that citizens should be subordinate to any particular narrow religious moral order. That is what the whole concept of unalienable individual rights means, and sumptuary laws, especially in the form of prohibition, were something they continually warned about.

    It is way past time for us all to wise up and help curtail the dangerous expansions of federal police powers, the encroachments on individual liberties, and the increasing government expenditure devoted to enforcing the unworkable and dangerous policy of drug prohibition.

    To support prohibition you have to be either ignorant, stupid, brainwashed, insane or corrupt.

    * The US national debt has increased at an average rate of $3,000,000000 per day since 2006. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
    * The unemployment rate has increased by 7300 per day since 2008.
    * The loss of manufacturing jobs has been 1400 per day since 2006.
    * Without the legalized regulation of opium products Afghanistan will continue to be a bottomless pit in which to throw countless billions of tax dollars and wasted American lives.
    * The hopeless situation in Afghanistan is helping to destabilize it’s neighbor, Pakistan, which is a country with nuclear weapons.
    * The mayhem in Mexico has deteriorated so badly that it’s bordering on farcical.

    There is nothing conservative about prohibition, which enlists the most centralized state power in displacement of domestic and community roles. There is everything authoritarian and subversive about this policy which has incinerated American traditions such as Freedom and Federalism with its puritanical flames. Any person seeking to insure and not further compromise the safety of their family and of their neighbors must not only repudiate prohibition but help spearhead its abolition.

    “Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy … and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with ‘scientific support’ … fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others. … The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless frightened parents.” – William F. Buckley, Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495

    We will always have adults who are too immature to responsibly deal with tobacco, alcohol, heroin, cocaine, meth, various prescription drugs, gambling and even food. Our answer to them should always be: “Get a Nanny, and stop turning the government into one for the rest of us!”

    • http://twitter.com/lindayelvington Linda Yelvington

      Thanks for an intelligent, well-documented post. If we each educate one person…

  • Anonymous

    “If it truly is a prescription we don’t tax prescription drugs,”

    Hear, hear Mr. Jones.

    The only place on the entire planet where cannabis is treated as a medicine by the authorities is Israel.

    The idiots on the DC Council decided that dispensaries should be overseen by their drinking alcohol authorities. All of the new laws require a buffer zone between the dispensary and a school. Arizona went as far as requiring dispensaries to not be opened within 2000 feet of a bar for crying out loud. There has never been any explanation of why such buffer zones are needed. These are closed to the general public business which requires a special, government issued card to get in to be a client. It would make a lot more sense to eliminate flashing neon marijuana leaf sign and require that almost all advertising of these businesses be forbidden.

    California jurisdictions have added special increased sales taxes for medical cannabis.

    BTW kudos to Michigan in being one of 7 states that had a statistically significant decline in the incidence of “drugged” driving between 2002 and 2009. http://oas.samhsa.gov/2k10/205/DruggedDriving.htm

    It seems no one but me is impressed by the fact that 4 of the 7 states with such a decrease have medical cannabis laws in place. California, Alaska, and Hawaii were the others. No States reported a statistically significant increase in the incidence of “drugged” driving in that time. Alaska and Hawaii have tiny populations so the entire decrease in the nationwide decrease in “drugged” driving was basically achieved on the back of California’s success. Remember California, the Know Nothing prohibitionists poster child of medical cannabis run amuck?

    Certainly Michigan contributed but was only a medical cannabis state for about 2/3 of 2009.

    Well, so much for the canard of an increase of mayhem and carnage on the highways by allowing patients to have their needed medicine.

  • Anonymous

    “It’s foolish and dangerous,” Jones said. “I would hope we would regulate that.”

    Like we regulate alcohol being sold by the glass at the side of the road? Let’s not be hypocritical Mr. Jones. You know as well as anyone that it is illegal to drive under the influence. No new laws are necessary and it is no harder to enforce driving while on marijuana than it is any other prescription drug.

    Just another example of government trying to put the small business guy out of business in favor of some huge corporations from Colorado. Keep government out of the business of the small businessman. Keep the money from medical marijuana in Michigan and stop giving away our dollars to other states. Mr. Jones you should be ashamed to call yourself a Republican.

  • Anonymous

    The sad fact is many of our patients have been shut in for years. Compassion Clubs offer them the opportunity to fellowship with others. If he should place any restrictions on Compassion Clubs all hell will break loose.

    I am personally sick of the government punishing the sick to justify sticking their hands in the cookie jar. The state is entitled to income taxes if a profit is made. I think Mr. Jones will find that most caregivers aren’t raking in the dough, but are eating the crumbs off the table. We are willing to talk to Rick or anyone else in the legislative branch, but we will not allow anyone to circumvent the will of the people. Isn’t it disgusting that they are trying to raise cost on the sick. Our government is attempting to feast off of the poorest sector of society while extending tax breaks for the rich. How warped is that? Not one step back!!

  • http://www.chrisranjana.com software company

    Surely the state would experience a budget shortfall if it allows care givers to plant their own marijuana plans and claim the price of growing and distributing the crop to the patients. Alternatively if it allows patients themselves to grow the crops again it can lead to illegal growing and use of the plant.
    It has to think of some other alternative for this problem.

    http://www.chrisranjana.com

  • Anonymous

    Michigan House of Representatives
    The DisHonorable Rick Jones
    P.O. Box 30014
    Lansing, MI 48909-7514
    Phone: (517)373-0853
    rickjones@house.mi.gov

  • Anonymous

    The majority of the United States supports medical marijuana as more and more states end up voting it in. We need to get real here and stop this insanity over marijuana. It is not in the same class as the other drugs is is classified with, like heroin and cocaine. The amount of money spent against marijuana is obscene and not something we can afford to continue spending. The dollars for keeping marijuana users in prison and going through courts, as well testing and the crime that is associated just because it is illegal is just crazy. The drug war was lost a long time ago and yet they keep throwing money at this bottomless pit. Congress says they are going to eliminate wasted spending. That is the first thing they should eliminate- the ridiculous war against marijuana. So much crime would go away if it was legal and so much money could be made if it was packaged, taxed and sold and not just for medicinal use. . Could sure help every states bottom line! When Pat Robertson supports legalization, you know it is time!

  • George Washington Hayduke

    Something is happening and you don’t know what it is,
    Do you….. Mr. Jones