Comments on: MSU group cancels appearance by racist British leader

By: patriotisanothernameforfascist

patriotisanothernameforfascist — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:38:53 +0000

It is not impossible to define. Definitions can be generated in much the same way that hate crime definitions are. True, the government has in the past restricted speech, and the consequences have been dire (think Alien and Sedition Acts+ Sedition Act[1918] + HUAC). However, hate speech provisions are quite different in that they protect against dissemination of violent rhetoric, and they do so in a much more rigid way (in that, they are far more limited in their interpretation). American Renaissance is a blatantly racist, as you have observed, and ought to be banned. Free speech only preserves the capacity for them to legitimate their racist, xenophobic message.

Not that I approve of nominative arguments, but the list of countries with various forms of hate speech provisions is significant: Brazil, Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, India, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway, Serbia, Singapore, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, and the UK. Provisions limit hate speech to being defined only in the public sphere, and often only in attempts to propagate it. I think such provisions are neither dangerous nor absurd, but rather the lacking of any such provision is both dangerous and absurd.

By: patriotisanothernameforfascist

patriotisanothernameforfascist — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:38:53 +0000

By: melanie1010

melanie1010 — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:06:29 +0000

Why is it that those who routinely come to these events, scream, holler, try to block entrances and take away people's right to free speech are never called extremists? They can even threaten people's lives and still you will only hear they are “passionate” or some other kind of biased garbage.

By: mickconnolley

mickconnolley — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:19:42 +0000

definition of racist/terrorist take a couple of planes of inocent peopl fly then in to a building and call it a war this is extreme racismagainst your peopl the same defencive stance you take now will encourage more of the same so dont learn from you first lesson disshonor the memory of your fallen let there death count for nothing as you and the other tree huggers wont learn if i have offended i am sorry i ment no insult i just feel a passion for freedom that islam will kill along with opponents

By: ebrayton

ebrayton — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:47:24 +0000

If American Renaissance is not racist then that term simply has no meaning anymore.

By: mike5586

mike5586 — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:29:44 +0000

The blatant lies in this article are quite amazing.
"During his Q and A with the audience, Griffin called protesters stupid, accused them of being bused in from Detroit, and of being lesbians. He also told protesters he would “shove” homosexuals back in the closet and “kill them.”"

Nick Griffin is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. Take your ignorant propaganda somewhere else, the rest of us who have actually heard the man speak don't have time for it.

As for those calling the publication American Ren. racist, you clearly don't know the definition of the word. I'd suggest Craig Bodeker's documentary on race, but I know none of you will watch anything that doesn't fit into your narrow minded world view anyways. Don't let that stop you from continuing to prattle on about all the 'evil racists' as if anyone but fanatical self-hating "progressives" like yourselves actually care.

By: mickconnolley

mickconnolley — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:44:54 +0000

the only reason the reporter was ejected was because in the past he and his paper has run a hole string of slur and down right lies what you over the pond wont have seen as it did not make head lines please go and read the bmp manifesto then and only then make an informed judgement thank you you see even supporters of nick have manners not that the media would have you belive that

By: ebrayton

ebrayton — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:29:44 +0000

Has now moved on and is growing? His party just had to be forced to accept non-white people last freaking week and he justified the violent expulsion of a reporter from the meeting announcing that change. When did this supposed enlightenment take place, last night?

By: savebritian

savebritian — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:58:20 +0000

Mr Griffin you must remember grew up brainwashed in a racist and race concerned environment but has moved on and is growing . He is reforming and modernising his party. He now accepts the Holocaust and indeed has the best Israel policy of any European political party. Mr Griffin now considers all the old racial obsessions to be cranky and feels energies must go into saving Britain from Globalisation, mass immigration, Islamification, euroisation and regain Britain's sovereignityn and independence from Europe and maintain her national character, traditions and culture. He hopes that his ideas of democratic nationalism will spread across europe and to the United States. His party is reforming well but has a way to go, a huge intake of younger modern members will facilitate that gradually.

By: darylelamontjenkins

darylelamontjenkins — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:14:56 +0000

I don't think Griffin is the man to teach anyone about freedom of anything. Freedom of Speech also includes freedom of the press, but Griffin thinks it is perfectly fine for his BNP thugs to beat up a reporter because they didn't like what was published in his paper about them. Mob rule? BNP's all about it!