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	<title>Comments on: Mich. guv hopeful Rick Snyder embraces &#8216;the nerd discussion&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: georgesboukis</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously?  The educators are going to be the reformers? The city of Detroit consistently churns out illiterates, we are last in the nation, and you are blaming the administrators and politicians?  Failures cannot negotiate on their own behalf, do you know why? Because they are FAILURES.  They need to be removed, all of them. You don&#039;t need new buildings, or better books, or proper funding, or any of the other excuses that are always made whenever the teachers are confronted with their failure.  You need Discipline, and Consequences, and you need to be realistic and have the will to throw out rotten apples for the sake of the good ones.  Union teachers don&#039;t have any of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?  The educators are going to be the reformers? The city of Detroit consistently churns out illiterates, we are last in the nation, and you are blaming the administrators and politicians?  Failures cannot negotiate on their own behalf, do you know why? Because they are FAILURES.  They need to be removed, all of them. You don&#39;t need new buildings, or better books, or proper funding, or any of the other excuses that are always made whenever the teachers are confronted with their failure.  You need Discipline, and Consequences, and you need to be realistic and have the will to throw out rotten apples for the sake of the good ones.  Union teachers don&#39;t have any of that.</p>
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		<title>By: georgesboukis</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgesboukis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously?  The educators are going to be the reformers? The city of Detroit consistently churns out illiterates, we are last in the nation, and you are blaming the administrators and politicians?  Failures cannot negotiate on their own behalf, do you know why? Because they are FAILURES.  They need to be removed, all of them. You don&#039;t need new buildings, or better books, or proper funding, or any of the other excuses that are always made whenever the teachers are confronted with their failure.  You need Discipline, and Consequences, and you need to be realistic and have the will to throw out rotten apples for the sake of the good ones.  Union teachers don&#039;t have any of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?  The educators are going to be the reformers? The city of Detroit consistently churns out illiterates, we are last in the nation, and you are blaming the administrators and politicians?  Failures cannot negotiate on their own behalf, do you know why? Because they are FAILURES.  They need to be removed, all of them. You don&#39;t need new buildings, or better books, or proper funding, or any of the other excuses that are always made whenever the teachers are confronted with their failure.  You need Discipline, and Consequences, and you need to be realistic and have the will to throw out rotten apples for the sake of the good ones.  Union teachers don&#39;t have any of that.</p>
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		<title>By: dianaramsey</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was interesting to note that there was no picture of Engler in your TV ad.  Michigan&#039;s economy reached an all time low during his tenure as governor.  Michigan has spent the last eight years trying to dig itself out of the pit he put us in. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, it&#039;s a common theme among political groups to think testing is the cure-all in reforming education.  I wonder why business men and politicians think they can determine the best way to teach children.  Educational administrators, who&#039;s background is administration, not education, have not been successful in reforming Michigan schools because they are not equipped to do so.  Isn&#039;t it time to talk to the educators of children and teachers?  Educational groups such as the NCTE or IRA would seem to be more appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was interesting to note that there was no picture of Engler in your TV ad.  Michigan&#39;s economy reached an all time low during his tenure as governor.  Michigan has spent the last eight years trying to dig itself out of the pit he put us in. </p>
<p>Also, it&#39;s a common theme among political groups to think testing is the cure-all in reforming education.  I wonder why business men and politicians think they can determine the best way to teach children.  Educational administrators, who&#39;s background is administration, not education, have not been successful in reforming Michigan schools because they are not equipped to do so.  Isn&#39;t it time to talk to the educators of children and teachers?  Educational groups such as the NCTE or IRA would seem to be more appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that with the conflation that &quot;intellectual&quot; must be &quot;elitist&quot; and that &quot;Republicans typically&quot; eschew intellectualism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suspect there is some truth the observation that Republicans point out Democratic and liberal &quot;elitism&quot; more than Democrats (although Dems have played the &quot;country club Republican&quot; style of elitism forever, even though it is a horribly inaccurate stereotype of the average Republican), but that may be because the party philosophy that government decision-makers can decide things better than individuals has a philosophical lean to being labeled elitist by definition.    It doesn&#039;t mean Republicans are less intellectual or nerdy though - their nerds just express themselves more in business and private sectors while Dem nerds do in public sectors.  I suspect the &quot;average&quot; voter of each party is a working class person with beliefs of wide diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that with the conflation that &#8220;intellectual&#8221; must be &#8220;elitist&#8221; and that &#8220;Republicans typically&#8221; eschew intellectualism.</p>
<p>I suspect there is some truth the observation that Republicans point out Democratic and liberal &#8220;elitism&#8221; more than Democrats (although Dems have played the &#8220;country club Republican&#8221; style of elitism forever, even though it is a horribly inaccurate stereotype of the average Republican), but that may be because the party philosophy that government decision-makers can decide things better than individuals has a philosophical lean to being labeled elitist by definition.    It doesn&#39;t mean Republicans are less intellectual or nerdy though &#8211; their nerds just express themselves more in business and private sectors while Dem nerds do in public sectors.  I suspect the &#8220;average&#8221; voter of each party is a working class person with beliefs of wide diversity.</p>
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