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	<title>Comments on: Scott&#8217;s anti-transgender people proposal continues to make headlines</title>
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		<title>By: Zoe Ellen Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Ellen Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently, Drivers License matches genital configuration. Scott wants to change that, so guys with dicks have to use female rest rooms if they&#039;re trans. Because er.. um.. er... say what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, Drivers License matches genital configuration. Scott wants to change that, so guys with dicks have to use female rest rooms if they&#39;re trans. Because er.. um.. er&#8230; say what?</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Roberts</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/34156/scotts-anti-transgender-people-proposal-continues-to-make-headlines/comment-page-1#comment-18331</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Not everyone sees a person&#039;s driver&#039;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wrong Justine.    Drivers licenses are defacto ID cards.   You show them to verify age when purchasing alcohol or liquor.   You show them when you&#039;re clearing TSA security at airports, cashing checks, et cetera.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And every time you show an ID with a gender marker that doesn&#039;t match your name or presentation, you are being opened up to potential discrimination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TF or TM as you suggested isn&#039;t a viable solution either.  it still leaves the transperson open to discrimination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so what&#039;s so threatening to conservatives about putting an M or F to match the persons presentation irregardless of genital configuration, or none at all?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Not everyone sees a person&#39;s driver&#39;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information.</b></p>
<p>Wrong Justine.    Drivers licenses are defacto ID cards.   You show them to verify age when purchasing alcohol or liquor.   You show them when you&#39;re clearing TSA security at airports, cashing checks, et cetera.    </p>
<p>And every time you show an ID with a gender marker that doesn&#39;t match your name or presentation, you are being opened up to potential discrimination.</p>
<p>TF or TM as you suggested isn&#39;t a viable solution either.  it still leaves the transperson open to discrimination.</p>
<p>so what&#39;s so threatening to conservatives about putting an M or F to match the persons presentation irregardless of genital configuration, or none at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/34156/scotts-anti-transgender-people-proposal-continues-to-make-headlines/comment-page-1#comment-18332</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see why police would want to know the gender of a citizen for ID purposes.  So what&#039;s the matter with TF for transgender female or TM for transgender male?  Not everyone sees a person&#039;s driver&#039;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why police would want to know the gender of a citizen for ID purposes.  So what&#39;s the matter with TF for transgender female or TM for transgender male?  Not everyone sees a person&#39;s driver&#39;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Ellen Brain</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/34156/scotts-anti-transgender-people-proposal-continues-to-make-headlines/comment-page-1#comment-15083</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe Ellen Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently, Drivers License matches genital configuration. Scott wants to change that, so guys with dicks have to use female rest rooms if they&#039;re trans. Because er.. um.. er... say what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, Drivers License matches genital configuration. Scott wants to change that, so guys with dicks have to use female rest rooms if they&#39;re trans. Because er.. um.. er&#8230; say what?</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Roberts</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/34156/scotts-anti-transgender-people-proposal-continues-to-make-headlines/comment-page-1#comment-15075</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Not everyone sees a person&#039;s driver&#039;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wrong Justine.    Drivers licenses are defacto ID cards.   You show them to verify age when purchasing alcohol or liquor.   You show them when you&#039;re clearing TSA security at airports, cashing checks, et cetera.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And every time you show an ID with a gender marker that doesn&#039;t match your name or presentation, you are being opened up to potential discrimination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TF or TM as you suggested isn&#039;t a viable solution either.  it still leaves the transperson open to discrimination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;so what&#039;s so threatening to conservatives about putting an M or F to match the persons presentation irregardless of genital configuration, or none at all?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Not everyone sees a person&#39;s driver&#39;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information.</b></p>
<p>Wrong Justine.    Drivers licenses are defacto ID cards.   You show them to verify age when purchasing alcohol or liquor.   You show them when you&#39;re clearing TSA security at airports, cashing checks, et cetera.    </p>
<p>And every time you show an ID with a gender marker that doesn&#39;t match your name or presentation, you are being opened up to potential discrimination.</p>
<p>TF or TM as you suggested isn&#39;t a viable solution either.  it still leaves the transperson open to discrimination.</p>
<p>so what&#39;s so threatening to conservatives about putting an M or F to match the persons presentation irregardless of genital configuration, or none at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/34156/scotts-anti-transgender-people-proposal-continues-to-make-headlines/comment-page-1#comment-15070</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see why police would want to know the gender of a citizen for ID purposes.  So what&#039;s the matter with TF for transgender female or TM for transgender male?  Not everyone sees a person&#039;s driver&#039;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information, but the police would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why police would want to know the gender of a citizen for ID purposes.  So what&#39;s the matter with TF for transgender female or TM for transgender male?  Not everyone sees a person&#39;s driver&#39;s license so the general public would not be privy to this information, but the police would.</p>
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