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Prosecutors weigh reforms to state sex offender registry

By David Alire Garcia | 12.31.09 | 10:23 am

LANSING — Anthony Flores doesn’t fit the profile of the card-carrying ACLU member agitating for reform of Michigan’s broadly inclusive sex offender registry, because he isn’t.

He was a prosecutor for a dozen years through the summer of 2005, holding a variety of front-line criminal-pursuing positions in both Mecosta and Ingham counties.

(Creative Commons photo by Srqpix via Flickr)

(Creative Commons photo by Srqpix via Flickr)

More recently, he’s worn a different hat. At this month’s meeting of the Coalition for a Useful Registry at the state Capitol on Dec. 2, Flores, chairman of the group’s professional advisory board, announced he’ll be leaving his position at the end of the year.

But that doesn’t mean that his determination for reforming the state’s sex offender registry is relaxing — or that his time as a prosecutor doesn’t continue to inform his views.

“I was a career prosecutor, I loved prosecution,” he said in a recent interview.

When he worked in the Ingham County prosecutor’s office, Flores said he handled just about every kind of criminal case that came through the courtroom doors — “everything except appeals and child support cases.” In 2001, he was made chief of the unit responsible for prosecuting the state’s criminal sexual conduct laws, the division responsible for child molestation cases. “I zealously prosecuted child molesters. I make no bones about it,” he said.

“It was one of the things that gave me longevity in my career,” he added. And he explained that the experience gave him a unique perspective on all sorts of criminal behavior, the victims of crimes and perpetrators both. “I could understand somebody caught in the cycle of drug addiction. I could understand being angry because you caught your wife cheating and you strike out in violence, I understood the behavior,” he said. But there was some behavior he couldn’t understand.

“I could never understand why anyone would beat or molest a child,” he said.

Over the past four years, Flores has taught full-time at Thomas M. Cooley Law School, leading courses on trial skills among others. But reflecting on his time as a prosecutor in the CSC unit in Lansing convinced him that state laws are forcing too many people on to Michigan’s Sex Offender Registry — especially those convicted of having consensual but underage sex — and not allowing the public to use the online registry to actually identify predatory child molesters nearby.

“When I started looking at it, I got offended,” he said. “At some level, it really insulted the victims of these really heinous offenders when you lump them all in.”

With more than 45,100 names and faces on it, Michigan’s public sex offender registry has the third-highest percentage of its citizens on it of any state registry, and the second largest number of offenders overall. It went online in 1999, and has been amended several times since then, usually to add more requirements for registrants to follow such as housing restrictions or mandatory quarterly address updates, which are then listed on each offender’s unwanted webpage.

Flores would like to see it amended again, but this time to add new requirements that all juveniles accused of committing criminal sexual conduct — from severe first-degree cases to less serious fourth-degree charges — be professionally evaluated prior to sentencing them to, on top of other penalties, a minimum 25-years on the online registry. Currently, all CSC convictions include 25-years on the registry.

“The juvenile system has always been meant for rehabilitation,” he said. “We shouldn’t just knee jerk put them on the registration.”

Flores notes that most people would be surprised to learn that there are registrants as young as 13, and a few even younger than that. Flores said that he’d also like to see judges given “the discretion and tools to put the right people on” after receiving thorough pre-sentencing evaluations.

In an interview with Michigan Messenger, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy disagreed with Flores’ give-judges-more-discretion view. “No, I don’t think that judges should be making that call,” she said. But Worthy did suggest she’s open to other reforms that people like Flores’ also support.

She noted that a 2004 amendment to the state’s Sex Offender Registration Act does allow some juvenile offenders age 17 to 21 stay clear of the registry and have their convictions expunged if they complete the terms of their probation. “That’s a good thing,” Worthy said. But she points out that there’s a three-year time limit on offenders’ ability to petition to have their name removed from the registry — a limit she’d like to see lifted.

Referring to a legislative proposal from her office this year, the prosecutor with the state’s busiest office sought an “indefinite” time limit. “In other words, there would be no time period,” she said.

While that would-be reform has yet to find a sponsor, the earlier 2004 reform wasn’t retroactive — although a recent appeals court decision may open the door to revisiting hundreds of cases adjudicated before the new petitioning process was established.

Worthy, a former Wayne County judge as well as an assistant prosecutor for a dozen years before that, cites what she calls a “fairness issue” in so-called Romeo and Juliet criminal sexual conduct cases.

“I don’t think it’s fair to have them be on the sexual offender registry forever because of that. If it’s a non consensual situation, of course that’s a different story,” she said. “But that shouldn’t be something that people are settled with especially when an awful lot of people did it when they were that age and there was no such law.”

She added: “Let me just say we’re not condoning teenage sex at all. We’re just saying it shouldn’t be criminalized and you shouldn’t have a permanent record because of it.”

Flores agreed with that but went further by suggesting that too often prosecutors don’t really have the discretion to decide against prosecuting underage, consensual sex crimes, citing the intense pressure that can come from parents — or even political pressure to avoid appearing too lenient. “Sometimes we don’t have prosecutorial discretion. Sometimes the parents demand prosecution.”

Worthy, however, disagreed. “The prosecutors absolutely have discretion, and it may be a hard decision to make, just because the parents are yelling for the boy to be charged because their previously quote-unquote innocent daughter has been violated by this boy. [But] it doesn’t mean that we don’t have discretion. We still have the absolute discretion not to charge it.”

Flores’ fellow agitator for comprehensive reform of the state’s sex offender laws, Van Buren County Circuit Judge William C. Buhl, noted that while prosecutors may technically have the discretion not to prosecute a Romeo and Juliet relationship, the political reality usually demands such prosecutions.

“Kym Worthy is right,” Buhl said in an interview. “The prosecutor can do that. But she knows full well that politically it’s not a popular thing, and somebody’s gonna come out and beat you over the head with it. They’re gonna accuse you of being soft on sex crimes or favoring child molesters, and of course under the law, if they’re under 16, they’re children and they can’t consent.”

In the end, there’s probably an age-old philosophical debate over different ideas on reforming the state’s sex offender laws — or not. On that count, Worthy very much fits the profile of the tough crime-fighter.

“I have to say as a prosecutor, I have more compassion for the victims. We have parents of defendants and defendants themselves who certainly feel that they’ve been violated,” she said. But turning to what she called “the hell that some of these victims have to live with for the rest of their life because they were victims,” she added: “The defendant chose to be a defendant. The victim did not choose to be a victim. Their lives are sometimes ruined and changed forever. So I have to say that my compassion is really for the victims of these crimes.”

Flores, asked to respond to Worthy’s view, snapped back at even the suggestion that he has any less compassion for victims of crime.

“No. I have compassion for the scars that are left and the victimization,” he said. “I have so much compassion that I don’t want to insult them by putting their case next to something that’s not like it. I don’t want to put them in a sex offender registration that doesn’t mean anything.

Flores added: “I don’t disagree with her. I just think we’ve done it the wrong way.”

Comments

  • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

    This wholly mess is falling around the ankles of these proponents of the Death Penalty when we think destroying someone’s life over sex is the right things too do? This wasteful conduct will not be tolerated anymore with such flimsy unjust and worthless reasoning. Take the S.O. laws and push them out with the trash that came up with this Tom foolery. It can’t be justified & what is being done will not exist any more for sex reasons. Can't kill people for sex get outa politics wishful murders.

    • notsilenced

      listen idc who you are destroying someones life and telling them all their going to get is some god damn time in the jail cell which after they get out they are free to be where ever they want isn't right nor does it help the victim recover fully!! i am a rape victim and i think the death penalty is just! if i didn't think this at all i would probably be telling all of you otherwise! you have your god damn life unravel before you and try over and over again to pick yourself up!!! and not only that but you live with not being able to sleep or eat or really have any control over yourself! and its sickos like the people who can honestly sit their and take advantage of a female or male that do not desrve to live! god says to forgive the person who has hurt you. to treate others the way you want to be treated. and you can sit here and argue with me and say that im in the wrong for wanting the death penalty but until you can look in the god damn mirror and say I HAVE BEEN RAPED i suggest you keep your comments to yourself cuz you have no idea what it feels like not the slightest clue! so who are you to say who deserves the death penalty and who doesn't? the victim does not deserve to be told that after she has been raped and had the guts to come forward the guy or girl that did this to them is only going to prison for a while and then is getting out! ya redemption does not happen when the person seeking redemption doesnt want to be redeemed. and dont sit their and say ya well their not allowed near certain amount of miles away from a school because i know of atleast ten people who are registered sex offenders that live by an elementary school and high school. little kids could be your kids will go missing and turn up badly bruised, dead, raped, and all you can say is they need to go to jail? if this is how the world works id rather live in a state that has the death penalty than have to sit here and suffer knowing at a certain time the man that has caused my life to be a living breathing hell is going to get out. o and a doctor has even confirmed that most rape cases will never be solved and that the man who has obviously raped them will never do a day of time in his life! the guy who raped me i was told he went to jail but ive also heard otherwise! and im too god damn scared to make sure he is in jail! ya i told i spent four fucking hours in the hospital scared out of my mind that night going through different proceedures and filling out what happened giving them my clothes and meeting cops and detectives trying to form a case against the son of a bitch that raped me. and they said even if they had gone to court it could take months years decades for it go through and for us to have a shot of actually putting him behind bars! and guess what i know of atleast three other girls that he has raped! i cant get them to come forward with what happened to them because they are scared and know that him going to jail will just simply give him time to plan who he's gonna rape next when he's out. i have a feeling that their are other girls he has raped they are just simply too scared to come forward! how does that make everyone feel? knowing that their is a guy near you right now who is actually plotting who he's going to rape and get away with it? if your not scared you should be because their isnt anything you can do about it! they say if the victim isnt dead they should only go to jail? well why dont you just kill the victim then? that will be less painful. the guy who raped me knows i was the one who actually tried stopping him and now idk if he will try to do anything to me because yet again hes not in jail! you can all live with the fact that their is a sicko out their right now and because everyone wants that person to just serve time in jail when he gets out you live with every victim that he rapes after hes out you could have prevented it! i am done being quiet i know that i atleast tried to stop the guy that had raped me and now the girls around me all know now that they need to stay away from him and thats all i can hope for at this point in time! i made a difference.

      • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

        to bad your so full of hate and intitlement at the same time.

    • AVICTIM

      keith richards radford unless you know what the hell your talking about shut up! it is not sex if one party is not willing and o wait the laws actually back that up. i dont know what your idea of sex is but i pity the woman you have your so called “sex” with. killing a person for STEALING someone elses innocence and permanently damaging them for the rest of their life is justified! so ya my opinion sticks. its people like you that think of it as sex that disgust me and if you have a family you should go seek help because you have a very sick mind! and guess what your “sex” is called. RAPE, INCEST, STATETORY RAPE, MOLESTATION. their are larger amounts of other names and guess what you just earned yourself deemed as a RAPEST hope you like it when people yell THEIRS THE SEX OFFENDER!!! o and note you go to jail why do nt you walk around and say ya i had my “sex” with women its not my fault they kept screaming no and fighting back!!!

      • Anonymous

        You really need to get control over you self and stop FUCKING ASSUMING
        YOU KNOW ME YOU FREAK~!!! You say you have been raped well FUNKING
        JOIN THE CLUB BITCH!! Sorry you hang with losers that tell you your
        doing something good.

        You did not make any difference, you have been duped into a bad bunch
        of people telling you that though.

        I don’t like yelling on line or off butt: you really need to know more
        about what you are doing. You sound like some Rush Linmbuger, can you
        say cheese?

        Don’t judge me till you have walked in my shoes.

        Stand down!

        Best regards,
        Keith Richard Radford Jr

      • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

        call me and you can yell at me on the phone coward.

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      • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

        Look I have been raped and molested and do not ask for what does not belong to me. Your a sick mind when you make an effort to justiy your hate with the life of another.

  • mrcleanisin

    Leave the sex registry alone because it allows people to be less hostle towards bad sex offenders because it's so full of good sex offenders. Now can someone please draw a line? What makes you think you can draw a line for a 17 year old sex offender to be a good sex offender and a 20 year old to be a bad sex offender?

  • smackdab

    Sorry to shock your noble sensibilities, “Kym”, but not all defendants 'chose' to be defendants. However much it is denied, false accusations are rampant thanks to “Children don't lie”, rape shield laws, “Mad moms” and presumption of guilt.

    There's no better conviction rate than that for child abuse accusations. Bar none – to be accused is to be guilty until 'proven' guilty.

    I'm sure “Kym” will assure us that divorce, vengeance, and munchaussen's by proxy motivations to falsely accuse don't exist. Sex offender witch hunts disappeared with the '80's, right?

    Could it be the extremely LOW recidivism rates of sex offenders (yes, people – that rate is extremely LOW, not HIGH as we are conned into believing) are due to Romeo & Juliet, underaged who lied, and outright false accusations?

    Of COURSE not! How dare anyone say THAT emperor has no clothes?

  • http://www.cfcamerica.org Concerned

    I read this article.
    At first, I had hopes that it was reasonable.
    But then, as the article went on, I could clearly see it for what it is. Just another article in support of Bigger Government, More Laws, More money to Crooked Politicians, Judges, Lawyers, Police and Law Inforcement in Genreral.
    Tell all this that you wrote to the 22 Year Veteran Police officer who just got caught Molesting a 5 year old.. Guess What, NO Sex Offender Registry! Gee, I would have never guessed.
    No, Justice in America is DEAD. Justice goes to the Highest Bidder, Injustice is what is left for all the rest.

    You people should BE Ashamed of yourselves punishing people the way you do.
    If Child has sex with a child, no matter what, they both should be just as guilty. Why hang the boy for sexing up the girl?
    If she decided to open her legs, and He jumped in there.. and they were close to the same age..that is nature… Dam_ the laws!
    Hitler's troups followed the LAW of the day. Just because it is LAW, does not make it right.
    Was it right for the Gestapos to murder jews just because it was LAW?

    I am ASHAMED to be called an American because of you Lawmakers and Politicians.
    You all disgust me.
    Jesus said, Let him or her who is without sin cast the first stone.
    I hope to God you who persecute these people will be JUDGED WITH THE SAME FERVOR AS YOU JUDGE THESE CHILDREN AND MEN.
    May God NOT have mercy on your souls.
    http://www.cfcamerica.org
    http://www.nationalsexoffenderregistry.wordpress.com For all those rich, connected bast_ _ds who get away with sec crimes…

  • secy2009

    I agree that these prosecuters need to change the laws. I know a really nice young man who went to prison for 3 years for having sex with a girl two years younger. She had sex with others but he was the only one who was truthful when she became pregnant at 15. This law that requires him to register as a sex offender is the most stupid law I have ever heard. If every man or woman who has had sex with someone younger then them when they were “both” teenagers the sex offender list would include almost everyone in America! This law has got be to changed not just talked about!!! Only those who are truly adults and prey on children should be added to this list.

  • notsilenced

    listen idc who you are destroying someones life and telling them all their going to get is some god damn time in the jail cell which after they get out they are free to be where ever they want isn't right nor does it help the victim recover fully!! i am a rape victim and i think the death penalty is just! if i didn't think this at all i would probably be telling all of you otherwise! you have your god damn life unravel before you and try over and over again to pick yourself up!!! and not only that but you live with not being able to sleep or eat or really have any control over yourself! and its sickos like the people who can honestly sit their and take advantage of a female or male that do not desrve to live! god says to forgive the person who has hurt you. to treate others the way you want to be treated. and you can sit here and argue with me and say that im in the wrong for wanting the death penalty but until you can look in the god damn mirror and say I HAVE BEEN RAPED i suggest you keep your comments to yourself cuz you have no idea what it feels like not the slightest clue! so who are you to say who deserves the death penalty and who doesn't? the victim does not deserve to be told that after she has been raped and had the guts to come forward the guy or girl that did this to them is only going to prison for a while and then is getting out! ya redemption does not happen when the person seeking redemption doesnt want to be redeemed. and dont sit their and say ya well their not allowed near certain amount of miles away from a school because i know of atleast ten people who are registered sex offenders that live by an elementary school and high school. little kids could be your kids will go missing and turn up badly bruised, dead, raped, and all you can say is they need to go to jail? if this is how the world works id rather live in a state that has the death penalty than have to sit here and suffer knowing at a certain time the man that has caused my life to be a living breathing hell is going to get out. o and a doctor has even confirmed that most rape cases will never be solved and that the man who has obviously raped them will never do a day of time in his life! the guy who raped me i was told he went to jail but ive also heard otherwise! and im too god damn scared to make sure he is in jail! ya i told i spent four fucking hours in the hospital scared out of my mind that night going through different proceedures and filling out what happened giving them my clothes and meeting cops and detectives trying to form a case against the son of a bitch that raped me. and they said even if they had gone to court it could take months years decades for it go through and for us to have a shot of actually putting him behind bars! and guess what i know of atleast three other girls that he has raped! i cant get them to come forward with what happened to them because they are scared and know that him going to jail will just simply give him time to plan who he's gonna rape next when he's out. i have a feeling that their are other girls he has raped they are just simply too scared to come forward! how does that make everyone feel? knowing that their is a guy near you right now who is actually plotting who he's going to rape and get away with it? if your not scared you should be because their isnt anything you can do about it! they say if the victim isnt dead they should only go to jail? well why dont you just kill the victim then? that will be less painful. the guy who raped me knows i was the one who actually tried stopping him and now idk if he will try to do anything to me because yet again hes not in jail! you can all live with the fact that their is a sicko out their right now and because everyone wants that person to just serve time in jail when he gets out you live with every victim that he rapes after hes out you could have prevented it! i am done being quiet i know that i atleast tried to stop the guy that had raped me and now the girls around me all know now that they need to stay away from him and thats all i can hope for at this point in time! i made a difference.

  • Anonymous

    You do not know what you do, do you?
    I WILL BURRY the sex offender laws!
    You don’t know me, and I have good reason.
    So start listening stop telling, Its over.
    818 627-8060
    no brag just fact.

  • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

    Formal complant Oct 3, 2010

    it's your addiction not mine

    No one has to agree too nor except/condone/support your addiction too unjust/illegal/federally unsound/unsustainable laws that has no basses in truth or reality. Delusional thinking does not make other people sex addicts & the people that are sexually disturbed, about people with problems with sex like sterility/multi gender/predigests leading to false arrests/charges. We can not support your addiction to inhuman punishments & torture through state sponsored terrorism. The use of Bin Laden tapes to sway political votes is no different than this story. More too come, yes this entire thing will come around and take a bite of everyone that supports these laws. I was on the street and waiting for a bus when two squad cars pulled up and sergeant CARR drove up too me from the Atascadero Police Department and told me in a sinister voice “register” I said what are you talking about? With no request for ID he says you got to register looking for a violent response. I kept my cool and told him I will be back, and shove this whole thing right up your ass sir. Rick's Cafe, in the mythical saloon from the 1942 film “Casablanca” had people trying to leave the country too get away from bad laws but not cameras on every street corner and police accosting citizens without warrant or provocation's, so wait till these laws built on lies arrest you for missing an oil change. How much must someone endure when an officer that has never been met before can pull up and start a fight? How much money is this guy getting from people to act like this on the street? The other officer was quite and reserved watching the whole thing. He should have been the sergeant and not this immature strange man out for a fight on the street he did not get in Atascadero California Tuesday September 28, 2010 at a bus stop waiting for a bus. How long will it be before your forced laws will just cause the officers to kill someone without more than a possible description of someone and with our record of record keeping our lies personified by poor data entry will start the biggest run of blood on our streets over touching someone, sorry but your sick and disgusting un~thought~out proposal lacks worth and is an abomination in any country in the world. Sex has become something police can harass someone on the street about even if that sex was over twenty five years ago and the person served time the police can send Carr's out to engage in force action at a bus stop. This constitutes harassment and force as a formal complaint against the Atascadero Police Department for illegal use of force and nobody cares so what's next, like Chicago in the 30's when they gun people down on street corners waiting for buses? Isn't that what got prohibition shut down?

    Here a duly appointed officer of the law has done nothing less than a terror attact on the streets of California and I will never get this immage of events out of my mind.

    If your in a hole and keep digging, then run out of dirt, you might just as well put down the shovel. These laws have bankrupted California and are not good for much else. Now in China 15hundred dollars bounty for information? Let's just get the air shovels out and see how soon we can all turn into pod people.