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Reformers take aim at Mich. underage sex laws

By David Alire Garcia | 12.02.09 | 11:22 am

sex offender registryThere are more than 45,000 names and faces on Michigan’s online public sex offender registry and Francie Baldino is convinced that’s just too many.

But Baldino, the one-woman-Michigan chapter of the national organization Reform Sex Offender Laws, didn’t always think so.

“I never even realized this was going on until it happened to my son,” Baldino, a Royal Oak native, told Michigan Messenger in a recent interview.

In 2004, her son Kenneth Thorsberry was convicted of “criminal sexual conduct” when he was 18 years old. His offense was dating and eventually having consensual sex with a girl who was 14 years old and according to Michigan law, unable to consent. The couple met when he was still 17. Due to a second encounter with the same girl after serving an initial 10 months behind bars — a violation of his probation — Thorsberry was again reported by the girl’s father, and ultimately sentenced to five years in prison.

At the sentencing hearing, Baldino recounts a tearful plea for leniency from her son’s under-age girlfriend, Emily, followed by the Oakland County prosecutor’s insistence that Thorsberry committed rape.

“I wanted to jump up and scream,” Baldino said. “Yes, he made a huge mistake, and I definitely don’t condone teen sex,” she added. “But he’s no threat to anyone.”

As her son serves out the remaining months of his sentence at the state’s Ionia Maximum Correctional Facility — and braces for life on the state’s online sex offender registry for 25 years — Baldino is channeling emotion into activism.

Her ambitious goal is to help convince tough-on-crime state lawmakers to reconsider grouping young scofflaws like her son with more sinister offenders on a public registry that is widely known to severely limit future job opportunities, among other long-term effects.

“For him and others like him to have to register as a sex offender and be thrown in with real rapists and child molesters, that’s just overblown,” she said with a deep sigh. “These kids’ futures are just ruined. Totally ruined.”

A case decided last month by a unanimous panel of judges of the Michigan Court of Appeals provides a glimmer of hope that the state’s punishment for so-called Romeo and Juliet relationships isn’t so severe.

In that case, 18-year-old Robert DiPiazza had been found guilty of having consensual sex with his then 15-year-old girlfriend — now his wife — by a Muskegon County judge. He was required to register on the sex offender registry for a quarter century, and just like the most serious sexual predators, regularly report any change of address — along with a photo — for anyone with Internet access to see, including all prospective employers.

As a result, it became virtually impossible for DiPiazza to land and hold a job.

While DiPiazza’s case turned on other factors as well — including the timing of his conviction, just weeks before a 2004 exemption took effect that allows some young offenders to avoid the registry — the appellate decision is especially noteworthy because it held that listing underage, consensual sex offenders on the public registry amounts to cruel and unusual punishment. DiPiazza’s name and photo have since been removed from the website.

“The decision was tremendous,” said Lyn D’Orio, an Ann Arbor attorney and member of another Michigan group clamoring for reform, the Coalition for a Useful Registry. The decision, she added, could provide a path off the registry for hundreds of other Romeos and Juliets, depending on how the court’s precedent shakes out.

“I would say to anybody, if you had sex before you were 16, you might have been in their shoes,” D’Orio added. She goes on to argue that the original purpose of the registry has been diluted.

“The purpose of the sex offender registry is to inform the public so they can keep themselves and the public safe, and there are a lot of people on the registry who are not dangerous at all,” D’Orio asserted. “There are predators out there, and I want to know who they are, but when you have everyone on that list how do you know?”

That question speaks to a related reform advocates like Baldino and D’Orio would like to see: more leeway for judges faced with these cases.

“The law needs to be changed to give judges discretion,” Cheryl Carpenter, a Redford attorney and also a member of the coalition, said. “We need to put the right people on the registry. Michigan just puts everybody on the registry.”

Carpenter, who said she’s handled at least 20 underage sex offender cases, suggests other reforms she’d like to see enacted.

“One of things we need to have is risk assessments on these defendants to see if the person meets the definition of a pedophile,” she said.

Carpenter points to what she describes as a “logical” comparison: “For drunk driving cases, it’s mandatory that a defendant have an alcohol assessment. Why aren’t we having that in the sex crimes cases?”

Noting the regular sweeps of registered sex offenders by the Michigan State Police, the agency responsible for maintaining and enforcing the requirements of the registry, Carpenter suggests that reform would save the state money.

“The cost of maintaining the registry would come down if you just have the people who are really dangerous on it,” she said.

Registrants are not allowed to live or “loiter” within 1,000 feet of a school zone, a restriction that has been interpreted by some schools to mean that offenders can’t even pick up their own child from school. The terms of parole for sex offenders can routinely include an outright ban on any contact with anyone under 17 (at a park or a public swimming pool or even at home), possession of a computer that can connect to the Internet, as well as GPS monitoring.

“I think the worst thing about being on the registry is all these restrictions about how you live your life,” Carpenter added. “They live in constant fear about what’s going to happen to me next.”

Baldino said that when her son is released next year, he will likely be prohibited from living in her home because she lives across the street from a park. He would have to leave, she adds, if young nieces or nephews were at the house.

“If he’s restricted from living with me, he’s not going be in a stable setting to start his life over,” Baldino said.

Meanwhile, a dispute over how many underage offenders are actually on the registry plays out.

Shanon Banner, a spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police, said in an interview that of the 45,164 individuals currently on the online registry, only 40 are like DiPiazza.

“That’s about .001 percent of the individuals on the registry,” Banner said. “Oftentimes, it’s portrayed to be hundreds or thousands of individuals.”

But according to figures compiled by the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, there are more than 246 such cases, 40 of which are “age-only no force or coercion” cases. But a case gets that designation by the state police only if alcohol or drugs were not involved.

Moreover, Carpenter speculates that there could be hundreds more similar cases in which offenders were not sentenced as “youthful trainees,” a legal designation at the center of the DiPiazza case.

Banner did not return subsequent calls seeking clarification about the numbers.

But beyond the numbers, Baldino worries that many politicians will shy away from addressing the problem.

“That’s a huge problem,” she said. “They think they’ll be perceived as condoning teen sex.”

Carpenter agrees.

“This is not an area where legislators want to say, ‘Yes, I’m pro sex offender,’” she said. “There’s a lot of pressure on them.”

Nevertheless, Baldino said she’s not giving up on talking up reform even if few will listen.

“I’ve even done stuff like writing letters to Dr. Phil and asked if he ever heard about this problem and I never got a response,” she said. “I kind of feel no one wants to touch it.”

Still, she’s determined to at least set the record straight about her son.

“It’s just expected that someone would think he’s some creepo rapist when they’re just not realizing that he was just a stupid kid who made a gigantic mistake.”

Comments

  • phritz

    If every guy who had sex when he was abordweline adult with a girl who was also borderline adult was on the list the thing woul be the size of a phone book.
    The nature of the offense must also be clearly shown.

    • shirleyhoward

      my son is on the sex offenders list,he was 17yrs.old with a 15yr.old both agreed she was the progressor,it happen one time,he got 90 days in jail and on the sex offenders list for 25yrs.my heart breaks he is a very good young man,never gives me any worries.her parents was the one to persuie the issue,and the judge said a 15yr.old wasnt cappable of makeing the wright choise.so she got nothing and my son has no life for 25yrs.if they are any thing that i can do to fight this please let me no, my son is not a sex offender it happen one time,how can the law destroy a young life.some body please help these young mens life please

    • Anonymous

      the list is the size of a pfone book and i bet out of the 45 thousand over 10 thousand shouldnt be on their.

  • Keith_Richard_Radford_Jr

    You can not prove the sex offender registry has keep one child safe yet we can prove the sex offender registry is in direct relationship to the death of innocent people, putting us to mind of scenes from Casablanca
    People who are so obsessed with any sex they can find/unearth & the only way to deal with this kind of “hierarchy” of historic hysteria. A word taken from hysterectomy, hysteria is tied to castration used to make animals less threatening which clearly explains the atmosphere we have made for ourselves.
    Anyway we are supposed to be an advanced nation and we still have a death penalty when the rest of the world except for some nations we are still warring with/selling weapons too. Our weapons dealers/torture lovers delighting in support for the death of people they don’t know or want to simply because they don’t know how to get money for telling them how to live or taking it from someone by force. Is that supposed to include mutilations? In my humble opinion that alone is a terrorist activity as much as severed hands, ears, heads, or making a case with nothing more than an obsession justified by a self inflicted wound?
    People the worthlessness of the use of it and Pink Triangles has been proved so many times. The Jim Crow hanging laws that brought disgrace to our nation allowing thieves and murderous societal bigots to trash any shot at making good of a program in its design to make money destroying our nation and its people. Using this as a behavior model is backward because we are compounding the problem since the numbers are increasing to include the children they purport to protect. The idea brought us the Nerunburg trials and now America wants to upgrade the concept after fighting to protect against it? Turn ON to History channel and turn on your captions now that they are having those old speeches captioned Hitler gave. It started w/a registry, shut it down now and watch what really pops up, after court reform.

  • ToniaT

    The same thing happened to my son. He was 19 and she was 16 and almost a year into their relationship, her father got mad at my son and called the police. He is now a registered sex offender. After he was released, and put on probation, they continued to see other and eventually got caught. He went to prison for a probation violation. Now, he's on parole, he's 22 years old, he's on house arrest and being monitored, he cant find a job and his landlord is giving him until the end of December to move because they “dont rent to sex offenders.” How is my son being listed as sex offender protecting anyone? How is he supposed to have any type of future when he cant even find a minimum wage job? Where is he supposed to live when he cannot live by a school, daycare, church or park? He's not allowed around anyone younger than 18, which excludes him from living with me. He couldn't come over for Thanksgiving, he cant come over for Christmas and his cousins (who are under 18) are not allowed to be around him. Our laws do not differentiate and many are suffering the ultimate price for consensual sex. And, if the Adam Walsh Act gets passed, those listed on the registry for only 10 years (like my son) will be required to register for 25 years instead. How is this protecting society? How is this protecting our children – which is what the original intent of the registry was for. The registry does not protect our children, it's actually putting our children on the registry. Wake up politicians – THIS IS WRONG! http://www.love-is-not-a-crime.com

    • Anonymous

      i waz 20 and moved in with a friend who had a 16 year old sister.turns out that girl waz sex happy. had sex with everyone. well i waz kind of a nerd and didnt get any lol. i had sex only twice before. well one day SHE convinced me to date her, and thats when my life turned upside down.i even asked her dad for permission. her jealous ex boyfriend called the cops. he waz even 2 years over age. well i lived with her had her dads permission and the family didnt want to press charges and i still got sent to prison. hopefully some law will help me get my name off the registry and not painted with the same brush as all the real rapists. everyone a talk to even my parole officer says i got screwed. i bet if you polled america over 50 % will say it shouldnt even be illegal.

  • dwelsh

    I totally agree that the so called “Romeo & Juliet” law is so terribly wrong for putting these teens in prison for something (and I'm nearly 60) that many of us did when we were young (remember 1st base, 2nd base – homerun) is something I just don't understand. Granted these kids shouldn't be “doing it” but come on, do you really think that a prison sentence is going to stop it? If you do, then I really believe you are lying to yourself. What these kids are doing is something that has been going on for a bit of time but for some odd known reason it has turned out to be something very dirty when it shouldn't be. Just because two people are doing an activity that you may not like does not mean that they will turn out to be harden crimminals not by a long shot. The girl can be as straight lace as one can be and the parents may have given the “talk” but that does not mean it will not occur. A parent can just hope and pray that everything goes as plan but there is an outside chance it won't. I'm not saying it's right but at the same time I'm not dumb. It was just reported on CNN today that girls know “sexting” is wrong and that they shouldn't be doing it but they continue to do so not knowing what may come from their actions. If we continue to put these young people in prison for something they we probably did when we were there age do you know who is really going to pay for it? The next generation because once that person is on the registry it will be hard to find a job much less a place to call home so the only road open to them is government assistance. If you think we have financial problems now just you wait it will get worse if the public insists on putting people on a registry for a “non-violent” crime. Do you know that someone who has “taken” a life and doesn't have to register has an easier time of getting their life back together versus someone who did something that is to be consider “natural”. Think about it. The generation of today is much more advance then what we were at the same age so that is how society should think of them – even when it comes to sex.

  • ImTelling

    These laws are out of control and politicians are too weak to stand up and admit it. Visit RALLYPOINTUSA dot com and meet others who struggle with similar situations. This is the first social networking site devoted to those affected by the registry. This is a new growing community of like minded and understanding people. Groups and individuals are all welcome to create profiles, group pages, blogs, forums, chat rooms, and even IM each other. upload your favorite photos and videos to you profile.This is a safe place for everyone …enjoy

  • Hemicuda

    That the American people will stand still for such laws as now affect the sex offender population of this nation is beyond me. If this involved the registration of guns, the NRA would have all of Washington standing at attention, or if a racial issue was at hand, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be out in force, screaming at the top of their lungs, “discrimination”. Where are the voices of the sex offender and their families. Where are the defenders of the Constitutional, Civil and Human rights of this population? Today's sex offender and their families are being ostracized by their community to the point where they are not able to function as a family should. The sex offender has the lowest recidivism rate an all offenders, with less than 5.4% reoffending with five years of their release and 40% of those, reoffend within three years of their release. Sex offenders respond positively to treatment and regardless of what Judge Judy and Nancy Dis-Grace say, sex offenders do change, and want to change. I have encountered very few that are happy about their crime and have great remorse for their crime and consquence, victim. Where these people work and live, type of vehicle they drive, in no way keeps any children safe…a parent, doing their jobs is what will keep the child safe. There is not one shred of evidence to support the statement, “it will protect our children”, and in fact, there are hundreds of pieces of evidence to support just the opposite: for example, Sowell in Cleveland and Garriado in California. Both of these individuals were on the registry, and were termed, “compliant”, yet that turned out to be false, because if an offender wants to reoffend, distance to their victim makes no difference, nor does the fact that the neighbor knows their history. Garriado went over two hundred miles to get his victim and Sowell partied with people in his neighborhood, so the registry only served to help officials get re-elected, not protect anyone. If America continues to throw the sex offender under the train, its only a matter of time before someone else is thrown under the train as well, because the precedent has already been set. Please, wake up America and stop this unfair treatment of a member of your society, who have contributed just as you have. You have a history of second chances, where are the second chances for the sex offender and their families? It is only a matter of time before this horror visits your home or the home of a loved one, then where will you turn?

  • truthaboutsexcrimes

    The story is well rounded and I complement Mr. Alire Garcia.

    There is a missing element of a broader nature around the the registries and the pressure of the Federal government to have states comply with the Adam Walsh Act of 2006 (AWA). Since it's implementation only one state, Ohio, has complied substantually to date. AWA, if accepted by a state ( tied to a comparatively small dollar penalty compared to the cost of implementing the act ) has the potential of placing 14 year olds on the public registry and persons caught urininating in public as examples.

    If Michigan changes it's laws to incorporate the Federal stands of AWA it will essentually wipe out any protection provided by the ruling by the Michigan Supreme Court or legislative change.

    It is important that parents and their children be informed about the results of this ruling. It only pertains to crimes committed in the State of Michigan. If they commit a registerable act across a state line “minor” is defined under Federal law as a person who has not attained the age of 18. 18 is the Federal Age Of Consent. If something happened on a field trip out side the boundries of the State Of Michigan, Federal law would apply as well as the law of the state where the crime was committed. If some one has a girlfriend or boyfriend ( pertains to same sex couples as well ) across a state line in a border state, the Michigan ruling will not help them. Crimes committed under the jurisdiction of “interstate commerce” come under this definition. A Federal prosecutor has no problem in establishing Federal jurisdiction under this provision especially in cases of “sexting”. “chat rooms”, “email” “travel across a state line” since most of these services utilize equipment across statelines or transportation, just like the old fashion land line telephone and the bus. Parent and minors also need to be not only educated but recognize that 92-95% of NEW sex crimes against minors are not committed by registered sex offenders and rarely by strangers.

    There are deeper reasons why the registry scheme does little to protect minors and exacts sometimes life time punishment.

    WHO WILL COMMIT THE NEXT 100 SEX CRIMES AGAINST MINORS ?

    92-95% of NEW sex crimes are committed by persons NOT ON THE REGISTRY.

    Nearly 40% by juveniles Upwards of 55% by an adult parent, relative, family friend, teacher, coach, priest/minister, daycare provider … a person well known to the victim.

    Many studies generated by the Federal government as well as the states point out these facts but legislators continue to ignore the heart of the problem, sex offenses are a public health issue committed by persons other than registered sex offenders. Media in general sensationalizes the small percentage of crimes and ignores the the societal issue of incest and intrafamial sex to the detriment of new and potential victims. Sex offender registries and residency restrictions do nothing to help 92 or more out of 100 new victims. We do not say ignore the other 5 to 8 victims. We do say 92 – 95 new victims deserve a proportiate amount of attention.

    Ohio is a good example. In it's own January 2006 report on Sex Offenders many issues were analysed, however the State legislature ignored the content and proceeded with additional restrictive legislation to comply with AWA. Just in the last week The Department of Justice's Office of Justice Programs issued a publication “Juveniles Who Commit Sex Offenses Against Minors” concluding that at a minimum they are responsible for more than 36% of sex crimes … most part not on the registry. Since the AWA legislation was passed more and more empirical data and studies conclude the registry is not effective in preventing new sex offenses. Sex Offenders have become a tool of fear politics to gain votes.

    The public is allowing itself to be duped emotionally, intellectually, and financially. Little is done to prevent offenses where it counts, in the home and by people close to the minor. Potential victims are irreparably hurt by this misdirection of resources. The media contributes to this when it ignores the details and facts in stories about the registry. The subject requires more in depth accounts. Legislators who ignore the facts and pass bad laws and regulations are more guilty because control is in their hands. Citizens bear the burden of the greatest responsibility when they are not informed, question, and do not act by voicing their opinion to their legislators at any level.

    State Of Ohio January 2006 Sex Offender Report
    http://www.ocjs.state.oh.us/Research/Sex%Offend…
    NCJRS http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/ojjdp/227763.pdf/

    Ask your legislators, politicians, and law enforcement officals for the actual statistics of who commits new sex crimes against minors in your community. Don't accept “we don't know or we don't have that number” and let them continue to point only to registered sex offenders regardless of their age. Wake them up to the real problem and tell them to stop pandering for votes.

    We encourage all the readers to be better educated citizens, this affects everyone when precident is established in any court system, but especially in State and Federal Courts of Appeal. These decisions are used in other unrelated cases and subjects as the basis of decisions, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

    There needs to be a better system to treat the public health problem because the very limited nature of the sex offender registry being after the fact does nothing to prevent the problem that is more than 10 to 1 in magantude compared with the number of registerd sex offenders. Given sex crimes are majorly under reported because the offender is a family member, bread winner, or close relationship only increases that ratio. Punishment and the “Scarlet Letter” treatment does nothing but create more negative consequences on families and society and wasted resources both human and monetary than prevention. Sex offender recidivism is clearly demonstrated to be low by the most recent Federal and state studies while as a percentage first time offenses do not decline after nearly 15 years experience with sex offender registeries and residency / loitering regulations.

    There are a number of groups on line working to change the sex offender registries. We are not reccomending or endorsing any particular group but you may want to take a look at Citizens For Change America http://www.cfcamerica.org/, Reform Sex Offender Laws Now http://www.reformsexoffenderlaws.org/index.php and Sex Offender Issues http://www.sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/ for ideas and information. I guarantee that not all readers will agree with everything on these sites, however having an open mind to the facts presented and other stories may inspire you to create a better solution.

    We all must be aware of the fact sex offenders have become big business for not only politicians and law enforcement but GPS and software companies.

  • http://www.cfcamerica.org Concerned

    I love your website.
    I love this article.
    I love the comments.

    We all should work together.
    We need to put lawsuits on Every official who took an oath of office to support the Constution. Ex-post facto law, Retroactive application of the Sex Offender Laws is unconstitutional and all who take the oath to support the constution need to be sued in every state. All need to be named from the President on down to the least including Governors and Senators!
    http://www.cfcamerica.org

  • http://www.cfcamerica.org Concerned

    Citizens for Legislative Change, America http://www.cfcamerica.org gets MILLIONS of visitors a year… typically 5 thousand people on the site at all times.
    WE NEED WRITERS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES

    You who commented seem to have knowlege,
    Anyone who can write and cares about the issues, we need writers.
    We also want to tell the stories of anyone caught up in these insane laws.

    We do NOT support sex with children or rape.
    Help us to help all who are being banished by these laws.
    info at cfcamerica.org

    • Anonymous

       We do NOT support sex with children or rape. ——No they just compare guys who rape little kids with Jesus and say being arrested for raping their step daughter is the same as the jews being killed by nazis……

  • TimPa

    As a retired police officer let me put my two cents in. Sex Offender Registrys are not on the books to protect anyone. They are being writen by those in office who are using this issue to get votes when they come up for reelection. If those in office would study the issue they would find that NOT ALL SEX OFFENDERS are the same. But in Michigan we have lumped them all together as you would someone who rapes or molest childern. We need to go to emperical based testing for sex offenders. Then with that information post only those on line that are at the highest risk to reoffend on sex offender registrys. Law Enforcement resources are getting used up checking on many sex offenders who are of no risk to re-offend at all. Check the studies and learn that sex offenders have one of the lowest recidivism rates amoung all criminals at 3.5% are reconvicted within 3 years of release from prison for a new sex crime.

    • Anonymous

      Wisconsin has begun putting non sex criminals on this registry and have 10 yr olds on it. There needs to be a tier system to tell the public: watch out for this guy who has been raping for 3 decades instead of the 17 yr olds who felt up their girlfriends. 

  • http://www.cfcamerica.org Concerned

    I bow down to you, David Alire Garcia,
    Great writing. Great Reporting.

    Contact me if you get a moment, love to talk.
    http://www.cfcamerica.org info at cfcamerica.org

  • carolyn5

    I would like to join this fight. My 15 year old grandson lost his virginity Dec, 2009. The parents of the girl found her & her sister's (also 15) list of who they had sex with and who they planned to have sex with. They went to the police and my grandson was charged with having sex before 16. They did tell him that if he admitted to assult he would be on probation but the whole thing is crazy. I don't want children having sex at that age, but let's face it. If they arrested everyone below 16 that have had sex they would be flooded. And did you know that in 2002-2003 the government paid 1307 teens from 15-17 years of age graphic questions about sexual behavior??? Something is wrong with this picture……..

  • rnhawaii

    I would like to join the fight because my son is facing the same issues everybody is discussing.

    • Anonymous

      DO NOT GET A COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY

  • rnhawaii

    I would like to join the fight because my son is facing the same issues everybody is discussing.

  • ramondo10

    jjjjjjjj

  • ramondo10

    In 1996 I was a senior in high school and dated a sophmore. She was 15 and when her sister told her uncle( who was a cop) I was charged with 2nd degree sexual assault and ended up recieving 10 years in prison and a lifetime registry. I understand now as a grown up that we were stupid to have done what we were doing but I was just a dumb kid who was in love. Consential sex shouldn't land a guy in prison for 10 years. In all honesty she was probally more mature than I was but I was susposed to be smarter as I was older. My son died while I was locked up, I never even had the chance to see him. I was told by the judge that he had to make an example of me, while a 35 year old man who got a 14 yr old girl drunk and had sex with the child was given 60 days in jail. I just do not understand this. I was deemed to be no threat to reoffend upon my entry to prison but that does not matter. Three lives ruined while politicians peddle votes.

  • Anonymous

    My son was sent to prison when he was 17 years old for having sex with his girlfriend who was 14 months younger than him. The state give him the minimum 4 years to 15 years according to the State supplied attorney. WHAT A MISTAKE THAT WAS. Her father drove this issue. When the police asked my son did you have sex with this girl he said yes not knowing he did anything wrong. He has been in prison for almost 7 years. We could not even go to court and try this case because he admitted having sex with her. . The prosecution said if you try this case we will ask the judge to lock your son up for 20 years. They force you to plea bargain. You feel you have no choice because my son already admitted having sex.. I have tried everything. Maybe some day it will happen to a Judges son. Problem with that is the whole case would get swepped under the rug

  • Anonymous

    I dont understand why you’re all sitting on this website up in arms about these unfair sex offender laws. I’ve lived as a sex offender for almost 5 years now. I am stuck on this list for the rest of my life, for something that I did when I was under the age of 13. Where were all of your protests then? Your letters, your cries of passion over the “animalistic” treatment of us? I’ll tell you where, they were buried in your chests. In your minds, because just like all of those POLITICIANS, no normal citizen wants to stand up for our rights. You put your head down, and you go with the rest of society to keep from being ostracized yourselves. So before you all go pointing fingers at OTHERS for not making a change, I suggest you grab a sign, and picket. Grab a pen, and write a letter. Grab a bullhorn, and make your voices heard. Because thats the ONLY way things will ever change.

    • Anonymous

      How is anyone susposed to help you when no one knows about you? Where are your parents?  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OTTVE627ZMJESRYRU2OFQHLMTE levi

    votes are only a small portion of what it is about people. Why do you think really all the agencys are being grouped and roped under the feds? Why do you think homeland security is opening servicing centers all around the country to analize and group all hte information.. let me just say registrys like this are even recorded in the bible, stalin did them and so did hitler..every single case from the bible to hitler and stalin really really bad things came for the entire populations under them.. read your history. dont take my word for it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R66UNCLWTNKU5CYDCSUDCMB6WA renee

    My 2 cents as a parent, why are parents not explaining (over and over again) to their children that it is against the law to have sex with someone who is underage?
    It is sad to read about these teens that have messed up their lives. But, the law is the law, is the law. If we say that sometimes it is ok for a 17 year old to have sex with a 14 year old, where do we draw the line? What if it was a 15 year old boy and a 12 year old girl? Same age difference. In my many years, I have never met a 14 year old (boy or girl) that was mentally and emotionally mature enough to be having sex.