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		<title>By: hetkanWel.net &#187; Blog Archief &#187; Een financieel reddingsplan&#8230;maar ten koste van wat?- inspirerend weblog over onderwijs, spiritualiteit, wetenschap en samenleving.</title>
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		<dc:creator>hetkanWel.net &#187; Blog Archief &#187; Een financieel reddingsplan&#8230;maar ten koste van wat?- inspirerend weblog over onderwijs, spiritualiteit, wetenschap en samenleving.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hou dit in je achterhoofd en kijk nu naar de creditcrunch. Na jaren van financieel mismanagement komen de gevolgen ons nu in een stroomversnelling voorbij - met als hoogtepunt dat een paar dagen geleden de Amerikaanse regering besloten heeft om de schuld te nationaliseren. Dat lijkt op het eerste gezicht heel erg socialistisch. Maar dat geld moet ergens vandaan komen. Bush heeft er haast mee om zijn voorstel door het congres te krijgen. Ik maak me zorgen dat Naomi gelijk gaat krijgen, dat er meer geprivatiseerd gaat worden en dat er zwaar gesneden zal worden in het huidige budget, juist en met name in sociale voorzieningen, zoals de geplande health-care reform. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hou dit in je achterhoofd en kijk nu naar de creditcrunch. Na jaren van financieel mismanagement komen de gevolgen ons nu in een stroomversnelling voorbij &#8211; met als hoogtepunt dat een paar dagen geleden de Amerikaanse regering besloten heeft om de schuld te nationaliseren. Dat lijkt op het eerste gezicht heel erg socialistisch. Maar dat geld moet ergens vandaan komen. Bush heeft er haast mee om zijn voorstel door het congres te krijgen. Ik maak me zorgen dat Naomi gelijk gaat krijgen, dat er meer geprivatiseerd gaat worden en dat er zwaar gesneden zal worden in het huidige budget, juist en met name in sociale voorzieningen, zoals de geplande health-care reform. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gasper:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with a majority of your points except for the fair tax and Social Security. First, the fair tax is not fair. The wealthy do not purchase more than the middle class in terms of real goods. Therefore, as a percentage of income - the middle class will be forced to pay more. The &quot;luxury&quot; goods that the really wealthy can afford will be bought - as many are now - in countries that have little or no taxes on such items. And, as always, the wealthy will find loopholes in the system to avoid paying taxes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social Security - as Al Gore noted in 2000 - should stop being raided by both parties to pay for other line items. The fund would be solvent for a much longer time. Also, people earning over $200,000 should not be collecting Social Security. It was meant as a program to keep the elderly out of poverty and not as a primary retirement plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do agree that young people need to be taught how to handle and invest money at a much earlier age - and hopefully by the time they retire they would earn too much to qualify for SS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gasper:</p>
<p>I agree with a majority of your points except for the fair tax and Social Security. First, the fair tax is not fair. The wealthy do not purchase more than the middle class in terms of real goods. Therefore, as a percentage of income &#8211; the middle class will be forced to pay more. The &#8220;luxury&#8221; goods that the really wealthy can afford will be bought &#8211; as many are now &#8211; in countries that have little or no taxes on such items. And, as always, the wealthy will find loopholes in the system to avoid paying taxes.</p>
<p>Social Security &#8211; as Al Gore noted in 2000 &#8211; should stop being raided by both parties to pay for other line items. The fund would be solvent for a much longer time. Also, people earning over $200,000 should not be collecting Social Security. It was meant as a program to keep the elderly out of poverty and not as a primary retirement plan. </p>
<p>I do agree that young people need to be taught how to handle and invest money at a much earlier age &#8211; and hopefully by the time they retire they would earn too much to qualify for SS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2920/mccain-vs-obama-health-care-reform/comment-page-1#comment-17858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that doctors are very hard working (and caring) and the debt that they carry is outrageous. So it is obvious something needs to change. The problem is that doctors and other medical professionals hate the system as it is now but they are even more fearful of the unknown. This is why this country needs a comprehensive overhaul of the funding of education, healthcare and tax policy for the middle class.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, one friend - a chiropractor earns too much to qualify for certain tax breaks on his student loan because he earns too much. Yet, he does not live extravagantly - he lives in a condo but the cost of living - and ironically - health insurance keeps him from really getting ahead. And he is a professional. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about the majority of Americans who earn less than $100,000 a year?  We have lived under the same healthcare system that has failed for over 30 years - how is it working for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that doctors are very hard working (and caring) and the debt that they carry is outrageous. So it is obvious something needs to change. The problem is that doctors and other medical professionals hate the system as it is now but they are even more fearful of the unknown. This is why this country needs a comprehensive overhaul of the funding of education, healthcare and tax policy for the middle class.</p>
<p>For example, one friend &#8211; a chiropractor earns too much to qualify for certain tax breaks on his student loan because he earns too much. Yet, he does not live extravagantly &#8211; he lives in a condo but the cost of living &#8211; and ironically &#8211; health insurance keeps him from really getting ahead. And he is a professional. </p>
<p>What about the majority of Americans who earn less than $100,000 a year?  We have lived under the same healthcare system that has failed for over 30 years &#8211; how is it working for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Gasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a healthcare provider, I find it extremely insulting when people demand my services as their right. I don&#039;t necessarily agree with physicians driving &quot;Rolls Royces,&quot; and by the way, 99% of us don&#039;t so I assume most of you are uneducated like most lazy Americans. Denise Kelley or similar posters represent the typical liberal beggar entitlement problem in the US today. She probably avoided mentioning all the years that she smoked, ate garbage, and never exercised. However, now that her body shows consequences of her poor choices, somebody else should pick up her tab.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;UHC can only happen with following conditions being mandatory:&lt;br&gt;1. Doctors are given set maximum hours per week, set minimum salary adjusting with inflation and MAXimum salaries, very limited civil suit liabilities.&lt;br&gt;2. UHC must triage people based on age, comorbid conditions, and more much like the dirty insurance companies do; however, less money would be spent on paying administrative overhead under a universal system.&lt;br&gt;3. Drug ads are to be banned and people cannot request any buffet treatment. You either take it or leave it; you don&#039;t get to pick with your limited knowledge what you want done to your own body except a yes or no or just try to relieve the pain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a side note....&lt;br&gt;1. STRICT immigration policies need to be in place to prevent adding to the pool of people gaining benefits from federal funding.&lt;br&gt;2. Eliminate Social Security and divert funding. You couldn&#039;t save. Well, stinks for you. You had your 70 years on this planet. Now, it&#039;s our turn. The young should not be forced into slavery taking care of seniors who can still work part-time.&lt;br&gt;3. Impose the fair tax. No income tax. Just tax everything you buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a healthcare provider, I find it extremely insulting when people demand my services as their right. I don&#39;t necessarily agree with physicians driving &#8220;Rolls Royces,&#8221; and by the way, 99% of us don&#39;t so I assume most of you are uneducated like most lazy Americans. Denise Kelley or similar posters represent the typical liberal beggar entitlement problem in the US today. She probably avoided mentioning all the years that she smoked, ate garbage, and never exercised. However, now that her body shows consequences of her poor choices, somebody else should pick up her tab.</p>
<p>UHC can only happen with following conditions being mandatory:<br />1. Doctors are given set maximum hours per week, set minimum salary adjusting with inflation and MAXimum salaries, very limited civil suit liabilities.<br />2. UHC must triage people based on age, comorbid conditions, and more much like the dirty insurance companies do; however, less money would be spent on paying administrative overhead under a universal system.<br />3. Drug ads are to be banned and people cannot request any buffet treatment. You either take it or leave it; you don&#39;t get to pick with your limited knowledge what you want done to your own body except a yes or no or just try to relieve the pain.</p>
<p>On a side note&#8230;.<br />1. STRICT immigration policies need to be in place to prevent adding to the pool of people gaining benefits from federal funding.<br />2. Eliminate Social Security and divert funding. You couldn&#39;t save. Well, stinks for you. You had your 70 years on this planet. Now, it&#39;s our turn. The young should not be forced into slavery taking care of seniors who can still work part-time.<br />3. Impose the fair tax. No income tax. Just tax everything you buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2920/mccain-vs-obama-health-care-reform/comment-page-1#comment-11740</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gasper:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with a majority of your points except for the fair tax and Social Security. First, the fair tax is not fair. The wealthy do not purchase more than the middle class in terms of real goods. Therefore, as a percentage of income - the middle class will be forced to pay more. The &quot;luxury&quot; goods that the really wealthy can afford will be bought - as many are now - in countries that have little or no taxes on such items. And, as always, the wealthy will find loopholes in the system to avoid paying taxes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social Security - as Al Gore noted in 2000 - should stop being raided by both parties to pay for other line items. The fund would be solvent for a much longer time. Also, people earning over $200,000 should not be collecting Social Security. It was meant as a program to keep the elderly out of poverty and not as a primary retirement plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do agree that young people need to be taught how to handle and invest money at a much earlier age - and hopefully by the time they retire they would earn too much to qualify for SS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gasper:</p>
<p>I agree with a majority of your points except for the fair tax and Social Security. First, the fair tax is not fair. The wealthy do not purchase more than the middle class in terms of real goods. Therefore, as a percentage of income &#8211; the middle class will be forced to pay more. The &#8220;luxury&#8221; goods that the really wealthy can afford will be bought &#8211; as many are now &#8211; in countries that have little or no taxes on such items. And, as always, the wealthy will find loopholes in the system to avoid paying taxes.</p>
<p>Social Security &#8211; as Al Gore noted in 2000 &#8211; should stop being raided by both parties to pay for other line items. The fund would be solvent for a much longer time. Also, people earning over $200,000 should not be collecting Social Security. It was meant as a program to keep the elderly out of poverty and not as a primary retirement plan. </p>
<p>I do agree that young people need to be taught how to handle and invest money at a much earlier age &#8211; and hopefully by the time they retire they would earn too much to qualify for SS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2920/mccain-vs-obama-health-care-reform/comment-page-1#comment-11739</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that doctors are very hard working (and caring) and the debt that they carry is outrageous. So it is obvious something needs to change. The problem is that doctors and other medical professionals hate the system as it is now but they are even more fearful of the unknown. This is why this country needs a comprehensive overhaul of the funding of education, healthcare and tax policy for the middle class.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, one friend - a chiropractor earns too much to qualify for certain tax breaks on his student loan because he earns too much. Yet, he does not live extravagantly - he lives in a condo but the cost of living - and ironically - health insurance keeps him from really getting ahead. And he is a professional. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about the majority of Americans who earn less than $100,000 a year?  We have lived under the same healthcare system that has failed for over 30 years - how is it working for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that doctors are very hard working (and caring) and the debt that they carry is outrageous. So it is obvious something needs to change. The problem is that doctors and other medical professionals hate the system as it is now but they are even more fearful of the unknown. This is why this country needs a comprehensive overhaul of the funding of education, healthcare and tax policy for the middle class.</p>
<p>For example, one friend &#8211; a chiropractor earns too much to qualify for certain tax breaks on his student loan because he earns too much. Yet, he does not live extravagantly &#8211; he lives in a condo but the cost of living &#8211; and ironically &#8211; health insurance keeps him from really getting ahead. And he is a professional. </p>
<p>What about the majority of Americans who earn less than $100,000 a year?  We have lived under the same healthcare system that has failed for over 30 years &#8211; how is it working for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2920/mccain-vs-obama-health-care-reform/comment-page-1#comment-2378</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gasper:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with a majority of your points except for the fair tax and Social Security. First, the fair tax is not fair. The wealthy do not purchase more than the middle class in terms of real goods. Therefore, as a percentage of income - the middle class will be forced to pay more. The &quot;luxury&quot; goods that the really wealthy can afford will be bought - as many are now - in countries that have little or no taxes on such items. And, as always, the wealthy will find loopholes in the system to avoid paying taxes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social Security - as Al Gore noted in 2000 - should stop being raided by both parties to pay for other line items. The fund would be solvent for a much longer time. Also, people earning over $200,000 should not be collecting Social Security. It was meant as a program to keep the elderly out of poverty and not as a primary retirement plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do agree that young people need to be taught how to handle and invest money at a much earlier age - and hopefully by the time they retire they would earn too much to qualify for SS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gasper:</p>
<p>I agree with a majority of your points except for the fair tax and Social Security. First, the fair tax is not fair. The wealthy do not purchase more than the middle class in terms of real goods. Therefore, as a percentage of income &#8211; the middle class will be forced to pay more. The &#8220;luxury&#8221; goods that the really wealthy can afford will be bought &#8211; as many are now &#8211; in countries that have little or no taxes on such items. And, as always, the wealthy will find loopholes in the system to avoid paying taxes.</p>
<p>Social Security &#8211; as Al Gore noted in 2000 &#8211; should stop being raided by both parties to pay for other line items. The fund would be solvent for a much longer time. Also, people earning over $200,000 should not be collecting Social Security. It was meant as a program to keep the elderly out of poverty and not as a primary retirement plan. </p>
<p>I do agree that young people need to be taught how to handle and invest money at a much earlier age &#8211; and hopefully by the time they retire they would earn too much to qualify for SS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that doctors are very hard working (and caring) and the debt that they carry is outrageous. So it is obvious something needs to change. The problem is that doctors and other medical professionals hate the system as it is now but they are even more fearful of the unknown. This is why this country needs a comprehensive overhaul of the funding of education, healthcare and tax policy for the middle class.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, one friend - a chiropractor earns too much to qualify for certain tax breaks on his student loan because he earns too much. Yet, he does not live extravagantly - he lives in a condo but the cost of living - and ironically - health insurance keeps him from really getting ahead. And he is a professional. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about the majority of Americans who earn less than $100,000 a year?  We have lived under the same healthcare system that has failed for over 30 years - how is it working for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that doctors are very hard working (and caring) and the debt that they carry is outrageous. So it is obvious something needs to change. The problem is that doctors and other medical professionals hate the system as it is now but they are even more fearful of the unknown. This is why this country needs a comprehensive overhaul of the funding of education, healthcare and tax policy for the middle class.</p>
<p>For example, one friend &#8211; a chiropractor earns too much to qualify for certain tax breaks on his student loan because he earns too much. Yet, he does not live extravagantly &#8211; he lives in a condo but the cost of living &#8211; and ironically &#8211; health insurance keeps him from really getting ahead. And he is a professional. </p>
<p>What about the majority of Americans who earn less than $100,000 a year?  We have lived under the same healthcare system that has failed for over 30 years &#8211; how is it working for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Gasper</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2920/mccain-vs-obama-health-care-reform/comment-page-1#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>Gasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a healthcare provider, I find it extremely insulting when people demand my services as their right. I don&#039;t necessarily agree with physicians driving &quot;Rolls Royces,&quot; and by the way, 99% of us don&#039;t so I assume most of you are uneducated like most lazy Americans. Denise Kelley or similar posters represent the typical liberal beggar entitlement problem in the US today. She probably avoided mentioning all the years that she smoked, ate garbage, and never exercised. However, now that her body shows consequences of her poor choices, somebody else should pick up her tab.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;UHC can only happen with following conditions being mandatory:&lt;br&gt;1. Doctors are given set maximum hours per week, set minimum salary adjusting with inflation and MAXimum salaries, very limited civil suit liabilities.&lt;br&gt;2. UHC must triage people based on age, comorbid conditions, and more much like the dirty insurance companies do; however, less money would be spent on paying administrative overhead under a universal system.&lt;br&gt;3. Drug ads are to be banned and people cannot request any buffet treatment. You either take it or leave it; you don&#039;t get to pick with your limited knowledge what you want done to your own body except a yes or no or just try to relieve the pain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On a side note....&lt;br&gt;1. STRICT immigration policies need to be in place to prevent adding to the pool of people gaining benefits from federal funding.&lt;br&gt;2. Eliminate Social Security and divert funding. You couldn&#039;t save. Well, stinks for you. You had your 70 years on this planet. Now, it&#039;s our turn. The young should not be forced into slavery taking care of seniors who can still work part-time.&lt;br&gt;3. Impose the fair tax. No income tax. Just tax everything you buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a healthcare provider, I find it extremely insulting when people demand my services as their right. I don&#39;t necessarily agree with physicians driving &#8220;Rolls Royces,&#8221; and by the way, 99% of us don&#39;t so I assume most of you are uneducated like most lazy Americans. Denise Kelley or similar posters represent the typical liberal beggar entitlement problem in the US today. She probably avoided mentioning all the years that she smoked, ate garbage, and never exercised. However, now that her body shows consequences of her poor choices, somebody else should pick up her tab.</p>
<p>UHC can only happen with following conditions being mandatory:<br />1. Doctors are given set maximum hours per week, set minimum salary adjusting with inflation and MAXimum salaries, very limited civil suit liabilities.<br />2. UHC must triage people based on age, comorbid conditions, and more much like the dirty insurance companies do; however, less money would be spent on paying administrative overhead under a universal system.<br />3. Drug ads are to be banned and people cannot request any buffet treatment. You either take it or leave it; you don&#39;t get to pick with your limited knowledge what you want done to your own body except a yes or no or just try to relieve the pain.</p>
<p>On a side note&#8230;.<br />1. STRICT immigration policies need to be in place to prevent adding to the pool of people gaining benefits from federal funding.<br />2. Eliminate Social Security and divert funding. You couldn&#39;t save. Well, stinks for you. You had your 70 years on this planet. Now, it&#39;s our turn. The young should not be forced into slavery taking care of seniors who can still work part-time.<br />3. Impose the fair tax. No income tax. Just tax everything you buy.</p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree!  I work closely with doctors and have a daughter in medical school.  After graduating, they must pay off huge school expenses incurred in medical school.  In addition, the cost of malpractice insurance is outrageous.  General practioners are working like dogs just break even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree!  I work closely with doctors and have a daughter in medical school.  After graduating, they must pay off huge school expenses incurred in medical school.  In addition, the cost of malpractice insurance is outrageous.  General practioners are working like dogs just break even.</p>
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