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Two Haslett teachers "drunk shame" a fellow teacher at the end of the 2007 school year. (Photo courtesy Veronica Piechotte)
MERIDIAN TOWNSHIP — A police report that details an evening of troubling incidents among a group of Haslett Public Schools teachers involving drug use and “drunk shaming” is prompting questions about the teachers’ behavior and institutional accountability in this suburban community near East Lansing.
The police report addresses a number of incidents that took place at an end-of-year party hosted in 2007 by a Haslett teacher and attended by several other teachers from the district. The police report was provided to Michigan Messenger by one of those teachers, Veronica Piechotte, who says she was victimized by her colleagues that evening and that neither the Haslett school administration nor the legal system had acted on her complaints until Michigan Messenger began its inquiry.
According to the account Piechotte gave police the day after the incident, on the last day of school in 2007, Piechotte and five other Haslett school teachers, Lauri Etheridge, Timothy Beebe, Brian Town, Daniel McKinney and Heather Woodworth, joined their colleagues at an East Lansing bar to celebrate the beginning of summer vacation. As the party moved from the bar to McKinney’s house, things took a turn for the worse. The people involved dispute some of what happened during the evening, but each of them spoke with police at the time, providing a contemporaneous, first-hand account.
‘Degraded, defiled, lifeless’
According to the police report, Etheridge, Town, Piechotte and Woodworth stopped at Town’s home on the way to McKinney’s house, which is a short distance from the school. There, according to the report, they decided to smoke marijuana and Town produced and provided the drug for the three women, who went to the garage to smoke it. The teachers then continued on to McKinney’s house.
Later that night, after more alcohol consumption by all involved, Piechotte crawled between a coffee table and a sofa in McKinney’s living room. There she passed out.
According to the report, Town and Beebe decided it would be “funny” to draw on Piechotte’s unconscious body. The two proceeded to draw penises on her legs, glasses on her face, write the word “balls” backwards on her forehead and write their names on her stomach. Much of the writing was sexual and crude. Lauri Etheridge watched the men draw on Piechotte, while McKinney and his wife and staff member Phil Rutkowski were outside by the bonfire. After the drawing was done, one of the participants went outside and told the others that they should come inside to see what they had done. McKinney then took pictures with his digital camera, and at least one person took pictures with a cell phone. (Editor’s Note: Some readers may consider the photos taken during the drunk shaming to be graphic.)
Beebe and Town told the police that they had each written references to the other on Piechotte’s body, Town writing “Beebe was here” and Beebe writing “I love Brian Town” on her midsection. Beebe says he did not recall writing any obscene symbols, but his recollection was not clear.
What the two men had done, with the other teachers watching, was called “drunk shaming,” or humiliating people after they pass out from intoxication.
Beebe, Town and others told police the markings were not done maliciously but as a joke, or as Town said, because they “love her.” Beebe said he had done similar things to others, including Town.
Piechotte has other words for how the drawings made her feel: “degraded, defiled, lifeless, treated like an object, treated like, frankly, a bathroom stall.”
“I have never been so humiliated in my whole …” her voice trailed off during a recent interview with Michigan Messenger. “You ask me to explain it, and I don’t have the words.”
Piechotte said she understands that she made inappropriate choices that night. She said she drank too much and smoked marijuana, but she said that didn’t give her co-workers permission to write on her body.
“The humiliation that goes with people writing horrendous things on intimate parts of my body,” said Piechotte, who is openly lesbian. “I mean we’re talking one inch from my vagina. We’re talking names on my stomach like they were signing some graffiti on some property they had claimed. There is nothing more humiliating.”
Piechotte said she is going public because she wants her experience to prevent others from having to go through her trauma by bringing awareness to the practice, which has been documented in countless YouTube videos and photos that have become popular online.
“You just don’t treat another human being like that,” she said.
Piechotte also alleges that she was given a date rape drug and sexually assaulted in a bathroom before she passed out. The other person involved admits to sexual activity but claims it was consensual and denies providing Piechotte any date rape drugs. The prosecutor did not file any charges on these claims, finding that the evidence and testimony were insufficient.
No police charges over drunk-shaming
Piechotte went to the police the day following the incident.
When asked about the drunk shaming during an interview with police, Town admitted to providing the marijuana but told the officer he did not have it anymore. The officer told Town he did not believe him, and according to the report, Town subsequently went back to his home and returned to the Meridian Township Police Department with 1.25 grams of marijuana and a pipe.
When Meridian Township police officials concluded their investigation, they submitted their report to Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III, seeking among other charges, charges of first-degree criminal sexual conduct and possession with intent to distribute marijuana without financial remuneration against Town.
Dunnings, however, said he felt he was unable to issue a charge on the alleged sexual assault, explaining to Piechotte that he could support seeking battery charges against the alleged assailant. Piechotte was not satisfied with this determination, and Dunnings had another, unnamed female county prosecutor review the file. She agreed with Dunnings’ assessment. Shortly thereafter, Dunnings became aware that he had a minor business relationship with one of the witnesses in the case and disclosed this to Piechotte’s attorney. Piechotte asked Dunnings to recuse himself, which he did. The case was referred to the state attorney general’s office, which sent it to Clinton County Prosecutor Charles Sherman, who chose not to file any charges at all.
In an interview with Michigan Messenger, Sherman said what happened to Piechotte was not acceptable. But he felt he could not bring criminal charges for a number of reasons, including the length of time that had lapsed between the incident and when he reviewed the case.
“It’s a judgment call that has to be made between what’s considered a practical joke and what the criminal justice system should get involved in,” Sherman said. “[Prosecuting] is like coming in with a hammer. That’s my remedy. That’s the only remedy I have. I can’t send you to your room and say no video games for three weeks.”
Sherman also said he did not file the marijuana charges against Town because he viewed that incident — specifically the allegation that Town had delivered the drugs to the police himself days after the incident — as a separate issue that was outside the bounds of what he had been asked to look at by the attorney general’s office.
Dunnings said that he had to recuse himself from the case before he had made a final determination on whether to issue warrants. He said he was very reluctant to pursue the marijuana charges because he would have to charge not only Town, but Woodward, Etheridge and Piechotte for possession. Dunnings said he felt Piechotte was traumatized enough as it was without charging her with a crime.
“You see the quandary?” Dunnings said. “You try to do something to bring justice, but what would the justice have been in charging her, too?”
Dunnings said the marijuana charges were part of the referral to Sherman. In regard to Sherman’s claim that he saw the drug charges as outside of his scope, Dunnings disagreed, noting that the knowledge of the marijuana possession and use came to light as a result of the investigation into the drunk-shaming incident.
Dunnings is unable to prosecute anything connected to the case now that he has recused himself from the case. He called the drunk-shaming incident unacceptable.
“I think it is absurd that adults, [in] college or not, would engage in this,” Dunnings said. “It’s repugnant. I don’t see how anyone can find pleasure in doing this.”
Drunk-shaming common but legally ambiguous
Shari Murgittroyd, program coordinator for Michigan State University’s sexual assault program, said the issue of drunk shaming is nothing new. She said she has heard stories for 20 years of situations where people who had passed out were drawn upon, but that the stories have changed dramatically in recent years.
“The phenomenon that I have seen in the last two years, more and more women are experiencing the drunk-shaming after passing out or becoming unconscious or blacking out or whatever with alcohol and having pictures drawn on them and vulgar language of a sexual content,” she said.
“I think that this is a whole other level of sexual harassment and sexual assault that’s disturbing,” Murgittroyd said. “It’s just another form of humiliation, you know, someone taking power and control over some one in a degrading way to humiliate them. I don’t see it as funny or a joke. … [W]hen you start removing clothing and drawing on parts of the body that are very private, if you are touching those parts of the body and somebody is not giving you consent to do that, that is sexual assault. That is criminal sexual conduct in the state of Michigan.”
She acknowledges prosecutions in drunk-shaming can be difficult.
“This is up and coming. I think law enforcement and prosecutors are just having more of these reports coming forward and learning how to investigate them,” she said. “And I think they are going to see more and more people coming forward trying to make reports and press charges, because it is of a criminal nature. But I think that because of our culture, and the way that it is seen as joking and in fun, that it is going to be difficult to prosecute those cases, to get jurors to buy in that someone is really victimized.”
She said that in order to address this situation, it may be time for legislators to create a new law, although she hopes law enforcement will use laws already available to them.
Haslett schools took little action
While criminal charges were never filed in this case, Haslett school officials — according to police records, emails and other documents provided by Piechotte and an interview with Superintendent Mike Duda — were aware of the incident and took little if any action in response to it until Michigan Messenger started examining the case.
The police reports show that Beebe, Town and Piechotte each made contact with different administrators of the high school following the incident. The reports record that Beebe informed Assistant Principal Darin Ferguson “that Beebe drew a soccer ball and some other innocuous things on Piechotte’s body …”
The report also indicates that Piechotte had informed another assistant principal, Lynne Bartley, who has since retired. The investigator was told as well by principal Bart Wegenke that he was aware of the incident.
As a result of the trauma she claims to have suffered because of the incident, Piechotte was on a leave for part of 2007. The district tried to separate her from her employment because her medical leave had expired. She declined because felt she was not being offered a fair separation agreement. She returned to the classroom to teach at Haslett’s alternative high school and this year was assigned to the middle school. During negotiations over her future with Haslett Public Schools, Piechotte showed Duda the pictures of the drawings on her body from the night the drunk shaming took place.
Duda, in an interview with Michigan Messenger, said the district had attempted to gain access to the police report from both Meridian Township Police Department and Dunnings, but had been unable to do so. Duda said he had not been provided with any police reports about any of the incidents.
A document in the police report mandated by state law was faxed to Duda on June 28, 2007. That document informs the district of an alleged crime within 1,000 feet of school property. In this case it was the marijuana use at Town’s home that was being reported. The document informs Duda that Woodward, Piechotte, Town and Etheridge were alleged to have been in “illegal possession of a controlled substance, or a control substance analogue, or other intoxicant.”
In addition the document noting the incident had been reported to Duda, there is a hand-written note that reads “901 [Chief David Hall] showed the form to Mr. Duda and discussed it with same.” The note was signed by Meridian Township Police Department Sgt. Greg Frenger.
Duda says he was out of town when the document would have been sent to the district, and that he had no conversation with Hall about the incident. Hall confirmed that it was possible that a conversation did not happen, and noted that the mandated reports are often misplaced by school officials in Meridian Township.
Piechotte said that no investigation ever took place and she was never questioned, nor is she aware of any disciplinary action taken toward any of the other teachers.
As a result of Michigan Messenger’s inquiry, Duda said the district’s law firm was reviewing the police incident reports with an eye on what, if anything, the district can do in relation to the incident. He termed the review an investigation.
In addition to the investigation, Duda said the school district would be bringing in outside consultants to develop a conversation about diversity. The news of the drunk shaming comes following separate allegations of ethnic insensitivity on the part of Duda.
The personnel files of the teachers involved in the drunk shaming incident reveal nothing to indicate that the school district took responsive actions, including any records of counseling sessions to discuss inappropriate behavior, letters of reprimand, nor evidence of an investigation or questioning by the administration.
It is that apparent lack of action that most bothers Piechotte. “While I am dismayed that both my employer and Michigan’s legal system have failed to recognize the brutality of this incident by not taking any tangible action,” she said. “It underscores the need to have meaningful dialogue about the underlying issues that enable a culture of bias and violence to exist, so that others will not suffer as I have.”
Comments were sought from Woodworth, Town, Beebe and Etheridge, but none responded before press time. The Haslett Education Association has advised the teachers not to make any public statements.
PHOTOS: What follows is a photo slideshow of the incident, some taken by participants during the drunk shaming incident and some taken the next day at the medical examiner’s office. Some viewers may consider the photos graphic.
Editor’s note: Although the police report contains conflicting testimony on who was in the room at any given time while the actual drunk shaming was occurring, Rutkowski says that he was not present at all while the incident took place, but was rather outside at the bonfire and only later did he go inside. His only role, he says, was driving Piechotte and Etheridge home because he felt it was unsafe for them to drive. We have changed the text of that paragraph accordingly.
People….are you telling me this entire board is FULL of perfect people? YOU all have done things you may not want to remember but you did them….if this were all guys we wouldn’t hear a thing!!!! GLASS HOUSES PEOPLE – - don’t throw stones at them!
Anonymous
This is exactly the attitude that’s holding the school district back. Sweeping this under the rug and going back to the “old boys network” isn’t going to solve anything. Hopefully you’re not suggesting that this is only an issue because a *woman* was assaulted? If this happened to my son, brother or buddy, I’d be just as outraged and disappointed. We need to stop blaming the victim.
spartan313
I can tell you, honestly, that I have never sexually assaulted another person or wrote derogatory or sexually explicit thing on a person who was unconscious. You need to closely examine your actions and consider the harm you may be causing people if you engage in such behavior.
Anonymous
I think it is interesting that Haslett was ranked as the 42nd best place to live and yet we are struggling with incredible issues of morality and ethics. Any professional who engages in public dialogue (at work or outside of work) may face scrutiny and be held accountable for their private behavior. Part of Quality Improvement, which I believe Haslett Public Schools have embraced, is an emphasis on being held accountable for acting ethically in any setting. I think the behavior of any person in a role of responsibility and influence (e.g. teacher, coach, pastor, physician, nurse, detective, and so forth) IS important and this is a burden these professionals should have been cognizant of by this point in their careers. I do not think it is beneficial to blame the person who brought this issue to attention but I do think transparency and open dialogue is helpful. People are motivated by different things and there are so many places that things went wrong it is almost comical.
I cannot believe people are not up in arms that Officer Hall says Haslett Public Schools frequently misplaces required reporting documents AND the fact that Hall says a signed document stating he spoke with Duda may not be accurate. Wow. We should be very worried if we live in Haslett, not only because of the teachers who are acting out adolescent behaviors but because we apparently have a School System that believes it is above reporting AND a police department that falsifies documents…The story is just the tip of the iceberg.
Anonymous
I am a proud alum of Haslett and am very embarrassed about this story.
Although all of these people were adults and not at a school function there actions are horrible. I believe that one should be able to drink, that is fine – they are all consenting adults. I think it reprehensible for them to be smoking, they are going to have NO right to tell those students no to do drugs when they are doing them.
I believe that when you become a teacher you become a role model, it is something that comes with the job whether you like it or not. Yes, I have worked in a school and I understand the dynamics between a teacher and a student. I also have a 14 year old brother who is a freshman in high school, not in Haslett though – due to a job change not because of the quality of education, and I know how much he looks up to his various coaches and what those coached and teachers tell him is something he takes very seriously.
I do believe that HHS could use this as an incredible teachable moment, it would take some humility on the parts of the teachers but I honestly do not believe that this is going to take place. Haslett could turn this into a great conversation with the community instead of a black-eye, we’ll have to see if they do.
I think everyone needs to get over when this happened, what the police and school did or did not do – let’s take the situation that we have now and turn it into something the school and students can learn from.
Playoffs4haslett
all the other teachers did was laugh at it because its funny. you need to calm down HHS ALUM. when did you graduate? What pride is there to be a Viking? Playoffs? hahahaha. This is not a good school and the school board should be removed for not taking appropriate steps in any of these issues. There was an incident last year involving a paper mach`e viking that five individuals thought that it would be “funny” to beat up Victor and take a poop on him. probably one of the funniest things i have ever been a part of. But the School said it was worth 1000 dollars. What a joke we had to pay it or we were not allowed to come back to the school. They did something worse to a human being and Duda pushes it under the rug to keep it quite. Well duda who's sick in the head this time? that's what they told me I am sick in the head becuase I thought the viking thing was funny.. Well you know something after all the bull that the school system has tried to pull on kids all the time it is about time they get a big taste of what they are spilling out.
GAHSU124
Hi. I'm a Haslett Senior. Please stop commenting on this. It is hurtful. No matter what happened, it is distracting and disturbing how vicious some of the above comments are. My fellow classmates and I are just trying to get thorugh High School. Hearing this does not help us. I was a student of ALL of the teachers involved in the incident. I trust them all. I am very dissappointed in them all. Please keep your opinions to yourself, and UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES bring the children and family of those invloved into this mess. They had nothing to do with it. Thank you. Have a nice day.
HaslettGraduate08
I graduated from Haslett High School two years ago and I know all the teachers involved. I was very surprised with the story even thought while i was still attending Haslett I heard about this but not very detailed and no one knew if it was true. I had class with just about all of the teachers involved and i cant say a single bad thing about any of them. They are human beings that have private lives and just because they are friends with co-workers doesn't mean this story should have gone public. Yes what happened to Ms. Piechotte is disturbing but I'm not going to judge anyone for this. All i know is Haslett High School was probably crazy today and its a damn shame that everyone had to find out about this. TIM BEEBE is a great man, a great dad, a good teacher, and a great coach and i think its BS because his daughter is now a freshman at Haslett and she probably went through hell today at school. Piechotte should be happy she didn't get charged for the marijuana and i think everyone shouldn't be making this big of a deal about it. It happened in 2007 and it is now 2009 come on guys, obviously there was nothing done then so why should anyone be punished now? For everyone that says Duda should resign or be fired, all i have to say is ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Haslett is a small town and most of the teachers are friends with each other, this did not happen on school ground nor does it concern Duda.
No matter what people say i will always think highly of all my teachers because they got me through high school and into a college, especially Beebe.
cs09
I am a current student at haslett and this has tarnished this school and not only its teachers and faculty but we the students as well. I was a student in ms piechottes class when this happened and am a current student in one of mr towns classes right now. i have great respect for both of the teachers as a teacher and a person.There is no denying what has happened here is wrong and in no way a helpful reminder of what not to do. But lets not hide the fact that they were all in the same state, drunk and high. When you do those kind've things you know there is always a possibility that things may go wrong and i believe that they are all at fault here.In no way to i agree with this story being published what so ever. Many of you might not know this but two of the teachers have kids in high school. To put this on them is awful, they should not have the burden of carrying this on there shoulders. There is no doubt that they will be mocked and teased for this. As much as i hate to say it but it is high school people don't always have the mature feelings and thoughts.Mr. town along with the entire group that was involved in this feels terrible.They have already suffered enough and will continue to suffer through it for the rest of there lives. For the kids and family members i am sorry this happened to them. As for the school district it now has a black eye on it that will not go away for a long time. And in an economy that is crumbling schools it is unfortunate that this will most likely lure people away from a great school district and a great place to raise a family.
spartan313
People are still responsible for that actions while drunk or high. If you drive drunk, being drunk is not an excuse. If you stab someone while drunk, being drunk is not an excuse.
And if you sexually assault someone and write degrading things on their body, being drunk is not an excuse. THIS would certainly be an important lesson for students at Haslett to take away from this. Unfortunately the school has decided not to send this message. But I would not believe your school if I were you, once you graduate and are out in the real world you will find that most of the time people don't get all their bad actions ignored just because they were drunk when it happened.
jkljkljkl
The school may have no legal recourse, but what happened to accountability? We are so consumed with our complex legal system we throw common sense to the wind. As a Haslett parent I am ashamed of my school system. The teachers may have a right to teach (protected by their contracts) but the teachers that are involved in extra curricular activity should be not be allowed to continue in that role. The classroom is supervised, coaching a group of girls is not. Mr Beebe should step down, and if not, the community should pressure him to do so. Based on community reaction, Haslett will no longer have a girls basketball team if Beebe is still there. Please, let common sense prevail and we as parents must focus on the health and welfare of our children.
foryourconsideration
Some random thoughts…. -Sexual orientation became part of this issue when it was mentioned in the story. Several dozen comments back, some took issue with the fact that it was brought up in these comments. If it wasn't an issue to the author or Ms. P, why was it written into the story?
-People have different levels of familiarity. The language you use, physical contact etc…varies depending on that level of familiarity. Some “friends” consider this type of familiarity (shaming, not sexual assault) acceptable. You don't have to agree with the action for this to be a relevant consideration. Did this group of people have a long standing, “party” relationship in the past, or was this the first time Ms. P was part of it? Some mixed gender groups of friends don't make great differentiations between the males and females of the group, by the choice of ALL, not just the boys. Wouldn't it have been interesting to be a fly on the wall for the significant time these people knew each other prior to the incident? What was their level of familiarity? Don't think this is relevant? If she had never been out with these people before or had, but their interactions had been relatively formal, the shaming action takes on a very inappropriate light. If their relationship was much more informal to the extent that these or similar types of actions within the group had occurred in the past, the shaming takes on a more understandable context. Again, you don't have to personally be comfortable with that level of familiarity for this type of behavior to be acceptable to other groups of “friends” and therefore possibly relevant to this situation.
-IF Ms. P was targeted as a lesbian or because she is “different”, we've got a problem, and it should be dealt with. She has the right to feel comfortable and accepted within her community.
-IF Ms. P does not feel accepted within her community, but that situation is at least partially self-imposed because she chooses to highlight her sexual orientation, and/or political leanings by crying foul in public forums at every opportunity, then she has the problem, and it should be dealt with.
-Does it ever seem like Oliver Stone and the movie JFK energized every conspiracy theorist waiting in the wings to be heard? How many different prosecutors have to say this is not a cut and dried situation for you to understand that this is not a massive cover up?
-What were these guys thinking? Lots of teachers party, but come on, a little discretion please! Even IF this was acceptable behavior amongst friends…pictures, pot??? Whatever happened to keeping the really stupid things you do (and yes, we all do stupid things we don't want the kids to know about)behind closed doors. This obviously does not refer to the sexual assault issue and does refer to the shaming incident, only if it occurred within the context of an overly familiar group of friends.
-Quit picking on Mike Duda…here's a neat idea, let's have him fire the whole group, even though no criminal charges have been filed. Then we can pay for all of the lawsuits these teachers, with employment contracts, will file, with the money the district doesn't have. My guess is he only has so many options, and quit acting like if you were the superintendant and had an unclear situation such as this, that you would go out in the public and air the districts dirty laundry.
-I would have concerns about people using drugs helping to guide my teenage child through a life stage during which it seems so easy for them to rationalize poor decisions by themselves and others.
-Keeping the sexual assault assertion separate, because it was the only issue with differing stories, does bringing this into the public eye, and putting the poor decisions that ALL the parties made, under the microscope do more harm than good, especially for the students of Haslett?
-Haslett Public Schools has many great employees doing great work.
-At least one of these people has children…they deserve some consideration.
-If you can't admit that the thought that Ms. P might have a hidden agenda and seems to be looking for ways to put Haslett Public Schools in a bad light, hasn't at least entered your mind, you probably aren't being honest with yourself.
-If you can't admit that the thought that Ms. P might have been truely victimized and/or targeted because of her sexual orientation, hasn't at least entered your mind, you probably aren't being honest with yourself.
Anonymous
It is the children’s fathers, by their actions, who have put this burden on them. I do feel sorry for any child whose parent would do this to another human being. And, yes, unless this is handled is an upfront and effective manner, it will definitely lure people away from Haslett. And, it is further amazing, that those “teachers” will retain their jobs.
Anonymous
yea but still do you think it is fair to these kids that they have to go through there daily lives with this? no the shouldnt they are teenagers, as if we dont have enough problems in are lives lets add this to theres.And by all means these teachers should keep there jobs. they are still great teachers even though theyve made a mistake.
def456
No, none of this is fair. I cannot imagine the pain these kids are going through. But pretending this didn't happen and imagining it away does not solve the problem. A teacher, at the age of 40, who would draw pornographic pictures on another human being's body, take pictures of it, and call it a “joke”, is not qualified to be a role model or teacher for my children. I don't care how many awards any of these guys have won. It is more important to me that my children learn that you do not degrade and dehumanize other people for “a joke”. It's not ok to do this to another person. It's not ok.
cs09
yes i toatally agree with you. but from my perspective as a student there students will learn nothing from this and yes thats sad. but there is no way that kids will say oh those teachers did it so we can to. Kids do not think like that. I wish you could see what i see from these people. They are all great teachers and people, we might forget there people. people make mistakes every one does and they've paid for it. mr town talked to us about this whole ordeal and everyone could tell he would do anything to take back what happened that night. i have not talked to one student who feels insacure or worried being in these classes and i sure dont. We all feel as a student base that this has cause nothing but bad things about haslett.
aaron_v
I think a lot of the people commenting are forgetting, or choosing not to believe that teachers are people, like you and I. It is so easy to anonymously cast down judgment from pedestals but there are really a lot of glass house arguments. Who of you at your office, or garage, or kitchen, or wherever you work don't see other adults engaged in downright childish activity?
Being a teacher does not grant one absolute temperance. To call these actions irresponsible is apt, but to throw around accusations of malice and criminal intent is, well, irresponsible. I am a graduate of Haslett schools and have had the pleasure of knowing every one of these people personally and academically and can personally vouch for the example that they set and the professional demeanor they display when they are on the job. As to the bravery of Miss Piechotte, there is no question that it must be difficult to stand up against a social and professional network that is insensitive to her complaints; however it is simply irresponsible and selfish to air out this dispute in the context of mass media and compromise the reputation of these teachers, this school district, its police department, and this community as a whole over a perceived malicious affront. Knowing every one of these teachers, including Piechotte, I can't believe that any of this was done with vicious intent. After all, they were all friends celebrating a common occasion and any mature group of friends would discuss what happened and sincere apologies and absolutions would or would not ensue. Unfortunately for the entire community of Haslett, it seems clear that this is a less than mature group of friends.
With the exception of a few commenting stone-throwers whose refuse doesn't stink, we have all made mistakes. And ideally, just like a trip to Vegas gone bad, an ill-advised marriage, or a pointless and stubborn fight with a significant other (or possibly all three in one shot), we sober up, we move on, and whether we embarrassed ourselves or others or were ourselves embarrassed we deal with it and become better for it. We do not make the situation bigger and nastier than it really is. And it is asinine, sophomoric, bird-brained, bone-headed, half-baked, nonsensical, idiotic, take your pick. It is not criminal.
spartan313
This is not a glass house. As I have stated before, if I engaged in this type of immoral, harmful, and, yes, criminal behavior, at or outside of work, I would lose my job. I'm an not holding these teachers to a higher standard than I hold myself. I'm not asking the school to hold them to any higher a standard than my employer holds me. Not assaulting people is really not that difficult! You respect other human beings and their rights. Simple as that.
go74time
I believe that all involved, including the her should no longer be employed by Haslett School District. I also believe that anyone having knowledge of this event and chose to do nothing about it should also be let go, that includes Duda. These are our teachers and they are supposed to be looked up to and be an influential part of our youths lives. They have failed at doing so. The younger posters that are posting on the behalf of these teachers will someday have children of their own and realize what everyone else already realizes. The fact that no action was taken regarding this matter is one of the most unbelievable things I have heard of.
TV25Alum
Cool, well then say goodbye to your award-winning television program. You'll never find someone as qualified and dedicated as Brian Town. He'll have absolutely no problem finding another district to scoop him up (especially considering there is no criminal charge involved), but Haslett will never find someone to replace him.
My recommendation is that you take a time out to consider how much harm you'll be doing to the district by following through with your suggestion, and weigh that against one event that happened two years ago, that will be forgotten by the time school starts next year.
Or, you know, feel free to cut off your nose to spite your face.
waksdgoa
The prosecuter claearly has more importatnt things to do than clean up the mess left behind by some lady getting too drunk, doing things she' embarrased by, and getting drawn on by her immature drunken friends. This type of stuff goes on all the time, usually in the college years. It's part of growing up. Apparently, none of these people have got there, yet.
bigdaddy09
TV25Alum, seriously, in your world this kind of publicity is just going to go away and we just have to wait? Do you really think any sane parent is going to be happy to see anyone from this story teaching their children? I don't care how “cool” or award winning any of these fools are, I NEVER want to see my kids in a room with these people. If another district will have them so quickly, let's give them a chance to go do that and show that Haslett is a place that won't put up with this kind of poor judgment from its teachers.
TV25Alum
That's fine bigdaddy09. Keep in mind that these people have continued doing the great job they've been doing for a decade, for the two years prior to the events that transpired, and the leaking of this information. Had Ms. Piechotte not leaked her information, and had this opinion column not been written, then you never would have had any idea, and these people would continue doing great work. It's sad that a few of you would be willing to throw away one of the most publicly positive programs at Haslett, in order to feel better about your child being in their classroom (which, again, they have been for the last two years, without complaint).
Again, cutting off your nose to spite your face.
bigdaddy09
Do you have a child who's going to someday be in a classroom with these people? Do you feel they're great rolemodels for your child? Do you think an “award-winning” program is more important than teaching our children respect for each other? Should talent be a license to do whatever you want? Doing absolutely nothing about this, no censure, no action, covering it up, demonstrates what's wrong with the district and how corrupted the values within the district have become. It's so pervasive that people actually think this is no big deal, which is shocking. The more people try to sweep this under the rug the more obvious it's going to be what the real problem is, a culture of denial with zero accountability.
TV25Alum
I don't have a child in the classroom, but if I did, I wouldn't not have any issues with the district's handling of the situation.
What exactly do you want the district to do, fire those involved? That would be impossible, first of all, because all of this happened outside of the district. But even putting that aside, what grounds would they be firing them on? Sexual assault? That wasn't even proven. Drug use? Ms. Piechotte would also have to be fired. Drawing on another teacher? Your case is getting pretty weak here.
I don't think anyone is arguing that what any of the parties involved did (including Ms. Piechotte) would be considered proper, or even mature. It wasn't. But it happened outside of the school, on private time, in a private residence. There are no criminal charges involved. There is nothing the school district could do, even if they wanted to (which, thankfully, it appears they do not).
notposted
I am disappointed in this situation as a Haslett High Alumni…I am aware that co-workers become friends and hang out/party (obviously they have a life) and are able to do what they wish as long as it doesn't involve the children they teach or the jobs they perform. What I am mostly upset about is that Mr. Bebe lost his younger brother years ago to a drunk driving incident. Instead of being an advocate to avoid situations where alcohol becomes excessive and causes problems, he gets himself involved in situations such as this and hosts an annual Bebe Golf Outing at Meridian Sun Golf Course, which is known for becoming a complete “drunken fest” and participants are involved in activities such as drinking in excess, driving carts into the ponds and basically acting totally innapropriately.
I am also disappointed in the fact that these kids that they are teaching on a daily basis, are constantly told to avoid sexual activity and drugs – this is even discussed and taught in school – yet the people they are supposed to look up to (their teachers) are participating in such activities themselves. We wonder why our children are becoming so involved in sexual activities and drugs at such a young age – they are getting mixed messages!!!
What you choose to do outside of work is your own decision, but I don't think it's wise to participate in such activites so close to home – example: It's not unusual to go to the local bar in Haslett (Mayfair) and see teachers hanging out drinking there….Really, do you HAVE to go to a bar in the community? When you choose to be a teacher, you basically are putting yourself in a spotlight – you are a mentor for children who already are at a difficult age and stage in life. These kids are tying to fit in and basically just figure out what life is all about…they look to you, their teachers, for guidance and support. What a letdown it must be for most of them to find out that the people they respected and looked up to, are involved in drugs, drinking and sexual activity? It's very sad. I mostly feel sorry for the children that are trying to understand why this even happened….not to mention the embarrassment all of Haslett must be feeling as it's splattered all over the front page of the newspaper. I know if my children were attending Haslett schools (and thankfully they are not) I would be choosing to pull them out and do “school of choice” elsewhere. It will take a long time for Haslett to recover from this news.
VeryZenJen
As to the question of whether this incident involved more than just a drunken prank – one of the accused perpetrators responded to this article by ADMITTING to students that an assault took place during this incident. Are you all missing that?
As for Ms. Piechotte, do any of you think that she has said anything that indicates that she is or was “proud” of every choice she made that night? Again, I will remind you, she has held herself up for scrutiny – those photos are of HER. Do you think she is PROUD of the light these photos could cast her in? She aired this incident, not to be a thorn in the side of Haslett School District, where she has served as an educator for many years, rather she believed, as the article indicates, that Haslett School District has taken on such an atmosphere of intolerance that she had to act – even if it meant she too was implicated and judged.
Vike
Did Beebe actually use the word “assault,” or is this a word that others are using to describe what he allegedly told his class? Remember the game “telephone,” where you pass a message down the line, and it's almost NEVER the same at the end….?
VeryZenJen
The photos that Michigan Messenger published were the LEAST graphic photos, for obvious reasons. There were many, many more. Not only were pictures taken with cell phones, there were many photos taken at the emergency room.
Yes, there WAS a rape kit. Often times, the first instinct of a victim of sexual assault is to shower – to try to get it OFF – to try to scrub themselves CLEAN – to wash it AWAY. It is HUMILIATING. This, among other things, can often compromise or destroy evidence.
I had the difficult task of reviewing all of the photos. Several of the photos are of an arrow, freshly “carved” or scratched , into Ms. Piechotte's lower back. The inference was vulgar. Almost all of the “drawings” were of a sexually explicit nature.
For any of you who have met, worked with, or have been taught by Ms. Piechotte, most would agree that she does not fit in to conventional societal standards of femininity. She does not wear makeup. Her wardrobe, along with her appearance, are gender ambiguous. She many times has a very closely cropped/shaved hair cut. Do you think it was somehow humor or accident that a penis was drawn from her genital region downward? Do you really think this had nothing at ALL to do with her gender presentation or sexual orientation? Maybe it didn't.
I would like to remind you all that Ms. Piechotte is the only one of these educational “leaders” that has provided full disclosure. She admitted to her own poor choices even when she didn't have to, because they couldn't be proven.
Mr. Duda saw some of these photos two years ago. He has known all along. ASK Mr. Duda if he spoke with Ms. Piechotte after this happened. ASK him if he saw the pictures then. ASK Mr. Duda if one of his “investigatory” questions was to ask Ms. Piechotte if she was wearing underwear on the date of the incident. ASK Mr. Duda if Ms. Piechotte was written up immediately after her return to work, and if she had ever been written up before during her many years of service to Haslett Schools. ASK Mr. Duda to show you a copy of the absolutely GLOWING letter of recommendation her provided to Ms. Piechotte AFTER this incident, hoping she would just LEAVE.
If you have ever interacted with Ms. Piechotte, ask yourself if she REALLY appears to be a vindictive trouble-maker, regardless of whether you condone her actions in the original incident.
In rule of law, the burden of proof is ALWAYS on the accuser, and not the accused. It is the burden of prosecution to prove their case. Phrases like, “Innocent” until “Proven” guilty and “beyond a reasonable doubt” exist to protect the rights of the accused, as they should.
Just because there is an accusation doesn't mean there was a crime, but the pendulum swings both ways. Just because there isn't a punishment does not mean there wasn't a crime.
TV25Alum
That's all well and good, but there are no criminal charges, or any other factors that would make this an issue for the school district. This was a police matter, and it didn't turn out her way. You should stop criticizing the school district for something they wouldn't have any ruling power over, even if they wanted it.
Also, you should probably stop adding your own inferences and interpretations to the meanings of the drawings, because you're compromising any shred of impartiality you might otherwise have. It's pretty clear that you have a biased objective in your posts, so I think it's important for others reading your posts to know that you don't want to search for the truth in this private matter, but rather it appears you are attempting to sway public opinion by providing your own interpretations of the events that transpired, and you are also attempting to encircle the Haslett Public School district into an issue that they have no control over.
windowlicker
I was very disturbed by Duda's racial comments in his power point presentation. I was further troubled when the district failed to present a very meaningful address to our students, by our African American President. After reading all of the posts on this matter, I've come to the understanding that, for what ever reason, Haslett alumni, seem to carry with them, an over exaggerated sense of entitlement, when it comes to the workings of their school system. Having lived in Haslett for over a decade and having children in the school system, it doesn't surprise me that home grown products like Duda, or drunken party boy Beebee would act the way that they do. These types of behaviors, though understood sociologically, should not be tolerated by the community. Educational leaders should be held to higher standards. Anyone who exhibits behavior of a sexist, racist or bigoted nature should not be allowed employment by this or any school system. Proper conduct by educators is a simple concept that dose not have to be written to be understood. These acts going unpunished, sends the wrong message to our youth and will create similar redneck rampages.
TV25Alum
Wow, could you possibly generalize or stereotype an entire community more? Get off your high horse. Haslett has been one of the most highly-rated school districts in the country. They have fantastic educational, athletic, and art programs. They have an incredibly high graduation rate, and an incredibly high percentage of the students continue on to receive four-year degrees. It's pretty clear that the majority of the community is very happy with the product that is being turned out. If you're so dissatisfied with the quality of education that your children receive at the district, perhaps you should consider home schooling or executing your right to school of choice.
As much as you might like to think, the world does not revolve around you. Expecting a community that is very happy with what they have to change simply because you disagree is ignorant, and a waste of time. Again, if you don't like the district, there are many other options out there.
LJ06
P-Shot you did the right thing! Its the good old boys club at Haslett and one day it will stop. Your a great teacher, friend and general person. I granduated in 2006 and you really helped me through life along with other teachers there. For the men involved I know from watching they are strange and would try to be extra nice to girls in school. Maybe they should let there wifes know. One day haslett will stop the good old boys club!
Keep it up P-Shot :)
wergo
So: I am a salesman. I work wtih 4 guys and a female. We go out and get hammered, smoke some pot, and the female passes out. We abuse her and take pictures of her. Guess what? I get fired. If I was a teacher I woudn't get fired. Does that make sense?
Anonymous
Better yet, your boss tries to fire the female, and winks in your general direction. Now that really doesn’t make sense.
Lakota2
Here's an Elder's Meditation, it seems appropriate for this situation:
“All of us begin to rethink what is good about ourselves – put the past where it belongs – and get on with the possibilities of the present!” –Howard Rainer, TAOS PUEBLO-CREEK
“There is a saying, you move toward and become that which you think about. So the question for today is, what are you thinking about? Are you thinking bad things about yourself or are you thinking good things about yourself? Are you thinking about a worldly life? Are you thinking good things about people or are you gossiping about people? Are you focusing on past things or are you living in the future? We need to bring our thoughts into the NOW, right here.”
The more talk and gossip the higher the flames. It's an unfortunate situation and heartbreaking. What good comes of dragging all the community into this? Scaring the youngest children and teaching the high schoolers the reality and tragedy of hypocrosy.
If this young woman really wants to make a difference, she should take her story to the legislators and help them craft a bill making “drunken shaming” a criminal offense. There is nothing the police/district attys can do when there is no statute to apply. Drug charges, don't work in her favor and criminal sexual conduct has no evidence to support the charge.
It's also unfortunate that Duda didn't realize this young woman needed more support from him instead of the shell game of moving her around the system. From reports of late he could benefit from a few lessons in tolerance, compassion and socially acceptable behavior.
Respectgiveitgetit
Ms. P must be responsible for her actions. And Mr. Heywood, you are sensationalizing this incident. Why not write an article on using alcohol, marijuanna, and the consequences of it? Ms P made very bad decisions. Does this decision making carry over to the classroom?
Ms. P if you are going to drink and smoke marijuanna to a point of passing out you are going to have to suck it up and deal with whatever comes after such behavior. Tough Love.
It is very disgusting to me that you would expect the administration of the district to take action on this incident. This is your personal time. Good or bad, it is not the school districts responsibility to get involved in your personal affairs. It is most unfortunate that you can not see your responsibility in what happend to you. When you can do that, you may stop drinking and smoking all together which will lead you to a healthier life style. Take it from one who knows and a former public school teacher.
Anonymous
what!?^
mrs.p and every one in involved should be held responsible for all the bad decision made, beeebe lied to his class saying he was only there for an hour and only had one beer and didn’t get high. in my opinion everyone of those teachers should be fired for condoning the use of illegal drugs. and i think mr. town should be brought up on charges for the possession of an illegal substance, not only is mardian township police pretty much turning and blind eye to this whole situation but showing an biased toward them because they are haslett high school teachers, if students where found in this position the administration wouldn’t hesitate to expel all parties involved
haslettstudent2011
People are so unforgiving… look, this happened TWO YEARS AGO. All of the staff members involved (excluding MS. Piechotte) have worked at Haslett High School this whole time, and have we seen anything so irresponsible from any of them since? NO! While this was kept quiet, there was no outrage over these teachers being bad examples to their students. Why? Because they HAVE NOT BEEN! This will now be used as an excuse for students who harbor any dislike for any of these staff members to point fingers at them as bad people and spread rumors. Now, should they have done it? No. But did they intend harm by it? NO! Now think: have you done anything in you life (not necessarily of this nature) that you deeply regret? If not, then good for you, and don't do anything like this down the road. For the rest of us, who do regret something we've done, were we forgiven? If so, aren't we grateful? Didn't we learn from our experience? If not, don't we wish to be forgiven? Don't we wish people would forget about it, and spare us the shame? You can be sure that this is how these teachers feel. You may not feel they deserve forgiveness, and I'm not saying that you have to forgive them. I'm simply saying that they are ashamed of their actions and want to be forgiven. In their shoes, any one of us would be ashamed, and we would most certainly want to be forgiven too. Each of them is a person, each of them has a conscience, and each of them is troubled by that conscience. At the very least, please don't try to make them feel any more guilty than they do.
Anonymous
They are guilty. Should they should feel guilty for what they have done to their colleague and what they have done to our kids and how, by their sick actions, they are ruining Haslett schools? YES! Did they come forward, admit their wrongdoings, and accept consequences for their actions? NO! If their consciences were so troubled, why did they not come forth to the Haslett community of parents, students, and teachers admit their wrongdoing and try to make amends??? You have to wonder if they are bothered that they have been found out, not that their actions were wrong.
bigdaddy09
haslettstudent2011, I can only speak for myself, but I bet I'm saying what a lot of parents in the community are thinking. I don't think that Ms. Piechotte is the “good guy” here, and that only the other teachers should be punished, far from it. As far as I'm concerned all the teachers involved in this situation are equally unfit to be role models or educators for children. I applaud Ms. P for having the strength of character to expose what happened here, but that doesn't excuse her or her inappropriate actions in any way (and yes, I realize she's also the victim). She should resign or be asked to leave, along with the rest, for the bad judgment they've each demonstrated. I also don't really care if these teachers “feel bad”, “guilty” or whatever. They are not fit to teach children, full-stop. The leadership of the district and schools is who I'm really angry at. They've enabled a culture of intolerance, and they've encourage and supported the “old boys” network for so long that they didn't even recognize this incident as a real problem. From the comments on this board from students, it's clear that this culture is pervasive throughout the district, and even our children have been indoctrinated into it. There needs to be a tangible change to demonstrate that the district will not tolerate this kind of behavior moving forward, and to restore the communities faith in the district leadership. First – Mr. Duda needs to step down, NOW. He's lost the initiative and is now backpedaling as hard as he can (see yesterday's LSJ). Mr. Duda, for the good of the community and the district you claim to support, please resign and save everyone the continuing embarrassment of watching this disaster in slow-motion. Second – the rest of the district leadership needs a shakeup. The principals and administrators who looked the other way and who tolerate this kind of behavior need training or new jobs, perhaps both. Lastly, the teachers, administrators and students who think this will all just go away if we stop talking about it need to think very very hard. What if this happened to YOU or your daughter? Would it be enough to say, “it happened a long time ago and it's no big deal”? For you dads out there, are you comfortable with the idea that your 14 year-old daughters will be in a classroom with the male teachers involved in this story? What do you suppose they'll be learning and hearing from these men? Is this kind of doubt and fear what we deserve for the kids we're working so hard to raise to adulthood? I have children in the district that will someday be in Haslett High, I pay taxes, and I vote. Haslett district administrators – are you paying attention?
Anonymous
I’m not surprised that this disgraceful incident took place at Haslett. I’m only surprised it took this long for an incident like this to make headlines.
The rumors about the activities of Haslett teachers and coaches as well as their relationships with students are rampant. Only the ones that can be substantiated by pictures and video footage can be proven to be true, but based on the caliber of teachers, coaches, and administrators they have at Haslett, I would suspect many of the other “rumors” are true and that this is just the “tip of the iceberg”.
Superintendent Duda’s defense for sweeping this event under the rug is that this criminal activity happened at a private party on private property. Can student athletes claim the same defense in the future if they are involved in drinking, drug use, sexual assault, or battery if it takes place at a private party on the private property of a classmate? At this point, I would think the school will have a difficult time holding the students accountable for any misconduct.
These officials are not qualified to teach, mentor, or coach any child, more-less hold students up to any kind of standard that would be decent and moral. Many of these teachers have no self-control, self-respect, common-sense, or even a small degree of discernment. Actually, their actions prove they are just children themselves.
Some of the comments I have read and heard from students are sad: “It was just a joke”, “It happened 2 years ago so forget it”, “Don’t let this tarnish our school”, “I don’t want to hear any more comments about it”, “Everyone makes mistakes”, “These are good teachers”, and “It was just a poor choice”. These comments sound like the mixed-up thoughts of misguided and confused children who have no sense of right and wrong. On that’s right, these are students mentored by Haslett High School teachers.
This isn’t a joke. It’s an outright disgrace. This wasn’t about people having a good time or a practical joke. It was sick, obscene, and vulgar not to mention there are admissions of illegal drug use, evidence of battery and pornography, and even allegations of sexual assault.
The time has come to clean house in the Haslett School system as well as the Ingham County Prosecutor’s Office.
TV25Alum
Wow, you go crazy and just shake up the system there…
I think you don't quite understand how good you have it in Haslett. Try going to the Lansing school district. Or even worse, Flint or Detroit. Haslett is about as perfect a mix of a medium-to-large district as you can find. There's an activity for everyone (generally very well-funded and equipped, to boot). You've had award-winning band, choral, and television programs. Your athletic programs have received some of the top recognitions in the state. The graduation rate is ridiculously high, and as far as I'm aware, the violent crime rate is as close to 0.0% as you can possibly get.
I went through the Haslett Public School district from elementary all the way through high school, and having seen the quality of other districts after graduating…you have no idea how bad things are. Your comments are the epitome of “the grass is always greener…”
Anonymous
TV25Alum, so because Haslett isn’t as bad as Flint we should just be happy? Think for a minute about what you’re saying. How has denial, administrative incompetence and a lack of standards worked for Flint and Detroit? Why would we want to hold ourselves to those same low standards?
The folks saying that we need to improve the district are the same people who love Haslett and want it to be the best it can be. Denying the problems and looking the other way won’t solve anything. Haslett and our kids deserve better.
Anonymous
I was a student of many of the teachers mentioned here. They are not bad people or the monsters some are making them out to be. Although I’m not surprised to see the Haslett “community” be so quick to judge these teachers and want “justice”. They are not teaching your kids about their crazy party days so you can all relax. Demanding these teachers lose their jobs is absurd. This was done in private among adults – no students were involved, if they had been then it would be a completely different issue. The school district should never have been involved since nothing occurred on school property and no one was forced to attend any part of that evening. Again, these are adults we are talking about, each adult needs to take responsibility for their own actions, including getting drunk and passing out. If each person involved worked in different fields, would each one’s employer get dragged in?? No. And if the police did not find it necessary to charge anyone of “a crime” when this happened…then nothing should happen over 2 years later. I’m sure all involved have learned from this, let it rest.
Anonymous
Absolutely not going to let it rest, I care too much about Haslett and so should we all. You want to know what “all involved” learned from this, and why so many people are so angry? 1) In the Haslett district if you “make trouble” by complaining about bad things, you’ll be attacked, minimized and denigrated, 2) if you’re well connected you can pretty much do whatever you want, even if it gets into the paper nothing will happen, 3) abuse and alleged assault, just blame the victim, she brought it on herself!, 4) the district leadership are so ingrained in the backwards culture that they will never take action against the other members of the “boys club”, 5) too many people have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are, they don’t care if it’s right or wrong. The criminality of what happened at a party 2 years ago is beside the point. The real problem is a school district with a culture which accepts this kind of behavior and isn’t willing to demand accountability.
facts101
The facts: The person who brought marijuana to the police station can and should be charged with drug possession. The person that wrote near her vagina can and should be charged with criminal sexual conduct. If there are laws against public humiliation or intended public humiliation (that's why they took pictures) they can be charged with that as well as being acomplises. The lawyers are trying to cover this up. She has a case, she needs the right lawyers.
audacitytohope
I think “Haslettstudent” is on to something here, but may be missing a larger cultural context that has been lost in much of this.
The issue here is not whether or not all of those involved ARE bad people. The issue is whether or not they DID a bad thing. Unfortunately, our retributive society and criminal justice system are ill prepared for situations in which GOOD people DO bad things. Why? Because, our system of “justice” asks the wrong questions. 1) What rule/law was broken? 2) Who broke it? 3) What should their punishment be. These questions are limiting, and do nothing to resolve any of the pain or hurt that is caused. Making matters worse is a criminal system that encourages people to avoid accountability, in part because the “punishment” can be so severe. While punishment is appropriate in many circumstance, such an approach rarely resolves anything for victims. Just ask anyone who's been to court as a victim (burglary, assault, etc).
For those unfamiliar with “restorative justice”, I would encourage you to look into it, because the primary issue here is not INTENT but IMPACT. Restorative Justice asks 3 fundamentally different questions: 1) What was harmed? 2) Who was responsible for the harm? 3) What is their obligation to repair the harm? My assumption here is that in everyone's attempt to place blame and punish those accountable, the natural reaction was to avoid accountability out of fear of consequences. I would imagine that ALL of those involved felt some level of guilt or remorse, and would have (perhaps did) apologize, were it not for fear that admission would result in “punishment” or legal action. If there is GENUINE desire for healing and forgiveness, I would suggest that these former friends consider approaching someone familiar with Restorative Justice and ask for help.
In the meantime, my hope is that we all step back for a moment and reserve judgment here. I'm guessing that 99% of us have no direct knowledge of what happened, but only what we have been told or have heard. While we can all agree that sexual assault, harassment, other illegal behavior is wrong, I am quite confident that few of us have enough impartial information to appropriately take sides here. My own values lead me to conclusions, just like everyone else, but the only people who can truly resolve this are those who were directly involved. My hope and prayer is that someone with a clear head will step in and be the first to take personal responsibility for their own part, and begin a process of healing and forgiveness, which is how our Haslett student began his/her commentary.
windowlicker
Some people aren't qualified to be teachers or administrators, irregardless of their education. One only has to observe their actions to make this determination.
Anonymous
I too think that all involved have missed the ball here. Everyones guilty, suck it up and turn it around into something good for the school. Have a assembly of some sort to let them know what is and is not acceptable behavior . How people get hurt, weather it was intentional or not. And another thing why is it only the male teachers here being called out. Weren’t there 2-3 other female teachers there to,Woodworth,Ethridge? I have seen very little comment’s about them at all and I think they to were smoking pot,drinking. Did they write on Ms. P also? Let’s give proper guilt to all involved.
Anonymous
Sounds like all could benefit attending some AA or Al-Anon meetings.
Anonymous
Coach Beebe, thank you for doing the right thing. You made a mistake, and you took responsibility for it. You’ve shown more leadership so far than the supposed “leaders”.
Anonymous
Something else to consider is that in most professions – mine included. We are submitted to drug screening. If we test positive or are suspected of and test positive we are fired. No ifs ands or buts. Our employment is a previledge and subject to our acceptance of the terms of employment. Illegal activities, such as drug use is, is a clear and simple violation of that contract. Simple grounds for termination. Why such an important function as school teachers are not subject to the same rules boggles the mind. Who should clearly be the one that needs the testing? With crap like this its no wonder the drug war cannot be won. They dont need jail time, they need a simple black mark on their employment record and kicked to the curb. THAT will send a loud and clearer message than any type of sanctions or sweeping it under the rug. Is the entire school system so screwed up that this behavoir is to be protected or explained away? I have now read some comments and if your defending any aspect of the actions taken at any level or point in this whole affair, you are part of the problem!
Anonymous
Beyond the obvious absence of penetration with penises, fingers, or other items, why is this any different from having sex with an unconscious woman? They are taking advantage of a human being. They are doing something to her she did not want to happen. This is wrong. It’s clearly wrong and if you don’t think it is then you have a huge hole in your moral character. Grow a conscience. Do parents in this school district really want teachers who defile the bodies of unconscious woman teaching their children? Does society really want to tolerate human degradation?
Anonymous
Sounds like a drug & booze infested party with school teachers, This teacher put her self in this position and all of them should be fired. Apparently she some how thinks she has been violated after partying till she passed out. I think the childrens parents that these school teachers taught are the real victims here. No wonder the schools systems in America are so screwed up.
Anonymous
What an absolute disgrace. BUT ILLEGAL? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
However, every teacher involved should be removed from his or her respective office immediately for good cause. And this includes the complainant.
Anonymous
If it happened to a male teacher, this wouldn’t be a story. Why are women’s bodies so much more important than men’s bodies?
Anonymous
What they did was wrong. It is humiliating and stupid. The things they drew were extremely offensive. Especially to a woman, and a lesbian at that.
If someone did that to me they would no longer be my friends. Would I involve the police? No. But then I am not a woman.
Should it be a crime? Maybe. It IS unwanted physical contact. It is like vandalism. Those that wrote on her body should apologize profusely and never do it to another human being. But until there is a law that specifically states you cannot draw, paint, glue or affix anything to a person’s body that they don’t agree to… It will be hard to prosecute these incidents. Jury’s will not see it for what it is. The humiliation and degradation of another human being.
In my opinion, the victim is very upset and doing everything she can to get back at them. It did not happen during work nor on work property. It is not a work issue.
The unwanted sexual contact; it is very hard for police to file charges unless they have physical evidence (like from rape) or corroborating testimony from another witness.
Although it will be hard, she should put this behind her and take it as a learning experience, on who to have as friends and how much alcohol to consume.
cayden_m
This is definately not okay. Yes, there were many factors here and drugs shouldn't not have been used either. But just because someone is drunk doesn't mean you can do what you like with them….Does it????? How would any woman say ” Hey its okay to rape and write on me if I pass out” Lets be honest its not okay. Maybe men should write on each other in this way..Like Stick it in my ass and have big balls pointing down his crack. and circle his mouth and draw a dick next to it….That sounds like love tooooooo (sarcasm) These teachers need to grow up . Thier lack of good judgement as adults who teach children should recognized. They arent in college anymore. They should have some form of discipline. The people commenting on here who think this is okay are just like the teachers who would do this.IMMATURE.
Tee33
Let me break it down for everyone.
1. Drinking and getting drunk of age is not illegal. No action needed. 2. Marijuana is illegal. Everyone who had or smoked it that night, should have a charge against them including Piechotte from the state and from the school system, likely extending into be fired from their positions as teachers. Our children need to know their school administration does not support behavior. I would remove my child from that school system if action is not taken. 3. Sexual Activity with a individual who you are not in an ongoing consensual sexual relationship with who is obviously intoxicated is not illegal, but should be. Whether one intoxicates themselves or is intoxicated intentionally by another (such as rape drugs), their ability to make a decision about this important area is compromised. I would like to see laws that reflect this. 4. Drawing on another person's body is not illegal, although ignorant and immature. It IS illegal in this situation, although because they were colleagues which is unwanted and unwelcomed sexual stress in Piechotte's relationships to her colleagues and is CLEARLY the definition of sexual harassment. I believe if she pursued it under this scope, she would clearly win in any court.
Tee33
Let me break it down for everyone.
1. Drinking and getting drunk of age is not illegal. No action needed. 2. Marijuana is illegal. Everyone who had or smoked it that night, should have a charge against them including Piechotte from the state and from the school system, likely extending into be fired from their positions as teachers. Our children need to know their school administration does not support behavior. I would remove my child from that school system if action is not taken. 3. Sexual Activity with a individual who you are not in an ongoing consensual sexual relationship with who is obviously intoxicated is not illegal, but should be. Whether one intoxicates themselves or is intoxicated intentionally by another (such as rape drugs), their ability to make a decision about this important area is compromised. I would like to see laws that reflect this. 4. Drawing on another person's body is not illegal, although ignorant and immature. It IS illegal in this situation, although because they were colleagues which is unwanted and unwelcomed sexual stress in Piechotte's relationships to her colleagues and is CLEARLY the definition of sexual harassment. I believe if she pursued it under this scope, she would clearly win in any court.
cousin_2
I have the same last name. I am not amused with any comment about our last name being shamed. Scott – you are out of line. The victim is everyone and no one. When poor judgement is used by – well everyone there and add alcohol and weed – that is a real crap sandwich will produce completely unpredictable behaivor. Well that is what happened. People are people and well drunk people are drunk people. I'm no shink but this is bad for the whole cummunity. Let's learn from this. :)
Anonymous
Or the source has been being silenced since 2007 and the school harrassing her and trying to force her out, so she brought up actions in retaliation, pain and hurt.
I can only imagine how I would feel being forced to suffer through sexual assault and then being victimized further by the school while those that victimized me are allowed to keep going without a hitch at all.
Anonymous
Perhaps the reason that Ms. Piechotte did not make this story public when it first occurred two years ago and chose now to bring it to light, opening herself up to scrutiny and condemnation, is directly related to that racially “insensitive” video that Mr. Duda approved for a Teacher Inservice event as a “light-hearted” attempt at “humor.” Maybe Ms. Piechotte’s motivation is guided, not by “professional victimhood,” but is instead an attempt to address the atmosphere of intolerance and cruelty that exists at Haslett Schools. If Ms. Piechotte had an agenda other than the protection of students and the possibility of making change in this school district, then why would she wait until after the statute of limitations for both civil and legal litigation on her part had expired? I would actually like to thank you for connecting the dots with these incidents. Rather than making Ms. Piechotte appear to be an “agitator” you swung the spotlight directly back to the questions we should really be asking, like what the HELL is going on with Haslett Public Schools?
There was another incident not too long ago, where a female student was harassed during recess, for no-one-knows how many days or weeks, called names, profanities, slurs, and ultimately, was tripped and pushed to the ground – physically assaulted. The reason anyone knows about this? The student perpetrators in this situation recorded all of their actions and posted them to YouTube. The names, the physical assault, all documented. The schools response? Remove the multiple videos from YouTube, and one of the more than a dozen students clearly identifiable in the video received a 2 day suspension – it was his phone.
Something is wrong, and I don’t think it is this teacher.
Anonymous
Interesting that you would blame my thoughts for ruining their lives rather than their inappropriate behavior. It is this kind of thinking that keeps our community locked in this behavior. Many jobs do hold you responsible for your behavior OUTSIDE of the workplace.
Anonymous
No where in the article do it say she was RAPED. The article says she “alleges” sexual assault in the bathroom, and ” The prosecutor did not file any charges on these claims, finding that the evidence and testimony were insufficient”.
And why do you automatically assume the supposed assault was by a guy?
Anonymous
Interesting that you would blame them for the stuff that happened to you and not your innapropriate behavior. The problem here is the fact that kids are dying every single year at haslett due to drinking and drugs…and the teachers are doing the same damn thing. U smoked weed…u should be fired bottom line are you fucking kidding me..this is the problem grow the fuck up
Anonymous
You mention nothing of her smoking pot which is illegal. Her actions as well as the others involved must take responsibility. If she was really drugged then those facts will eventually arise. If the other teachers were the ones that drugged her, then that will also come out. I doubt they knew anything of the sort or they probably would have called an ambulance. No?