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	<title>Comments on: Government reform referendum ruled off ballot</title>
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		<title>By: ebrayton</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2740/government-reform-referendum-ruled-off-ballot/comment-page-1#comment-18664</link>
		<dc:creator>ebrayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. There may not be a precise definition of &quot;general revision&quot; but it seems obvious enough that a referendum that changes multiple major articles of the constitution that are not directly related to each other is a general revision and not merely an amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. There may not be a precise definition of &#8220;general revision&#8221; but it seems obvious enough that a referendum that changes multiple major articles of the constitution that are not directly related to each other is a general revision and not merely an amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetly Zarko</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2740/government-reform-referendum-ruled-off-ballot/comment-page-1#comment-18663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetly Zarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure its Article 12, not Article 7, but that&#039;s off of memory and without going back to take a look.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We agree on this one.  The principle of exclusion or not rendering parts of the Constitution null would both buttress the interpretation that &quot;general revisions&quot; should be different from more precise &quot;amendments&quot;.  The Court took a lot of words to defend its decision - knowing the inevitable political claims that it was only acting in its own political interests would be levied - and its only weakness was that it struggled to precisely define &quot;general revision,&quot; I think it was clear enough and certainly clear enough from RMGN itself that it was a major general systemwide revision, rather than an amendment.  Like obscenity - you know it when you see it (for example, we all know child-pornography is obscene and should be regulatable despite the First Amendment) - this particular case was easy even though the definition isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m pretty sure its Article 12, not Article 7, but that&#39;s off of memory and without going back to take a look.</p>
<p>We agree on this one.  The principle of exclusion or not rendering parts of the Constitution null would both buttress the interpretation that &#8220;general revisions&#8221; should be different from more precise &#8220;amendments&#8221;.  The Court took a lot of words to defend its decision &#8211; knowing the inevitable political claims that it was only acting in its own political interests would be levied &#8211; and its only weakness was that it struggled to precisely define &#8220;general revision,&#8221; I think it was clear enough and certainly clear enough from RMGN itself that it was a major general systemwide revision, rather than an amendment.  Like obscenity &#8211; you know it when you see it (for example, we all know child-pornography is obscene and should be regulatable despite the First Amendment) &#8211; this particular case was easy even though the definition isn&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: ebrayton</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2740/government-reform-referendum-ruled-off-ballot/comment-page-1#comment-12270</link>
		<dc:creator>ebrayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. There may not be a precise definition of &quot;general revision&quot; but it seems obvious enough that a referendum that changes multiple major articles of the constitution that are not directly related to each other is a general revision and not merely an amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. There may not be a precise definition of &#8220;general revision&#8221; but it seems obvious enough that a referendum that changes multiple major articles of the constitution that are not directly related to each other is a general revision and not merely an amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: ebrayton</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2740/government-reform-referendum-ruled-off-ballot/comment-page-1#comment-1827</link>
		<dc:creator>ebrayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. There may not be a precise definition of &quot;general revision&quot; but it seems obvious enough that a referendum that changes multiple major articles of the constitution that are not directly related to each other is a general revision and not merely an amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. There may not be a precise definition of &#8220;general revision&#8221; but it seems obvious enough that a referendum that changes multiple major articles of the constitution that are not directly related to each other is a general revision and not merely an amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetly Zarko</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/2740/government-reform-referendum-ruled-off-ballot/comment-page-1#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetly Zarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure its Article 12, not Article 7, but that&#039;s off of memory and without going back to take a look.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We agree on this one.  The principle of exclusion or not rendering parts of the Constitution null would both buttress the interpretation that &quot;general revisions&quot; should be different from more precise &quot;amendments&quot;.  The Court took a lot of words to defend its decision - knowing the inevitable political claims that it was only acting in its own political interests would be levied - and its only weakness was that it struggled to precisely define &quot;general revision,&quot; I think it was clear enough and certainly clear enough from RMGN itself that it was a major general systemwide revision, rather than an amendment.  Like obscenity - you know it when you see it (for example, we all know child-pornography is obscene and should be regulatable despite the First Amendment) - this particular case was easy even though the definition isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m pretty sure its Article 12, not Article 7, but that&#39;s off of memory and without going back to take a look.</p>
<p>We agree on this one.  The principle of exclusion or not rendering parts of the Constitution null would both buttress the interpretation that &#8220;general revisions&#8221; should be different from more precise &#8220;amendments&#8221;.  The Court took a lot of words to defend its decision &#8211; knowing the inevitable political claims that it was only acting in its own political interests would be levied &#8211; and its only weakness was that it struggled to precisely define &#8220;general revision,&#8221; I think it was clear enough and certainly clear enough from RMGN itself that it was a major general systemwide revision, rather than an amendment.  Like obscenity &#8211; you know it when you see it (for example, we all know child-pornography is obscene and should be regulatable despite the First Amendment) &#8211; this particular case was easy even though the definition isn&#39;t.</p>
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