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By Staff Report | 11.16.11

I am writing today to announce the closure of the Michigan Messenger. After four years of operation in Michigan, the board of the American Independent News Network, has decided to shift publication of its news into a single site, The American Independent at Americanindependent.com. This is part of a shift in strategy, towards new forms [...]

Colorado-based abstinence program provided false and misleading information to Michigan students

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By Todd A. Heywood | 11.16.11

An abstinence-only presentation provided to numerous school districts in Calhoun and Eaton Counties in October of this year provided false and misleading information to students about HIV, experts allege.

Class action lawsuit filed against MERS over unpaid taxes

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By Todd A. Heywood | 11.15.11

Two county registers of deeds filed a class action lawsuit Monday on behalf of Michigan’s 83 counties alleging that the Mortgage Electronic Registration Services owes millions of dollars in property title transfer taxes.

Schuette fights important mercury regulations

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By Eartha Jane Melzer | 11.14.11

Despite evidence of the impact of mercury on children and public health, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette last month joined with 24 other state attorneys general in filing a lawsuit to scuttle new EPA regulations that would reduce mercury emissions from power plants.

Religion edition: ‘Empty minds’ and empty prayers

By Ed Brayton | 08.21.08 | 7:17 am

This week, Brayton’s bag includes hapless Olympic archers and attempts at divine intervention with gas prices.

Christianity ‘empties the mind’

The New York Times has an article about Kisik Lee, the Korean-born coach of the U.S. Olympic archery team. Lee is a born-again Christian who is being accused of pressuring those on the team to convert to Christianity. My favorite line from the article:

To be an effective archer, Lee said, athletes must learn to clear their heads and focus. “If you are Christian,” he said, “then people can have that kind of empty mind.”

Hey, he said it, not me. The punchline: despite the fact that 3 of the 5 archers on the American team have converted to Christianity and were meeting with Lee every morning for prayer and worship, none of them won a medal in Beijing. Keep working on that empty mind thing, guys.

Prayer increases gas prices

Speaking of prayer, Raw Story reports on a guy named Rocky Twyman who is going around the country leading prayers at gas stations to bring down gas prices.

Recently, to celebrate a drop in the average price of gasoline to $3.80 a gallon, Twyman led a group meeting at their inaugural Washington service station, singing a version of “We Shall Overcome” whose words were changed to “We’ll have to lower gas prices.”

I wish I was making that up. Twyman actually claims that the “prayers at the pump” that he organized in San Francisco and Washington D.C. are responsible for bringing down gas prices recently. There’s just one little problem with that: if you look at the actual prices relative to when those prayers took place, you’ll see that gas prices actually went up afterwards. The Skeptico blog has a chart showing the dates of those prayer rallies, the cost of gas at the time and the trends since then.

When they held the first prayer rally in D.C. on April 23rd, the average gas price in that city was about $3.56 a gallon. After that date prices rose steadily until peaking at more than $4.30 a gallon in mid-June. They’re still nearly 30 cents higher today than they were the day they started praying in April. When they held the first prayer rally in San Francisco on April 25th, the average price in that city was $3.98 a gallon. They had a second prayer rally on May 28th when the average price was $4.13 a gallon. After that day, prices rose sharply and peaked at $4.61 a gallon through most of June and July. Today those prices are still nearly 20 cents higher than they were when Twyman started his prayer rallies. Praise the lord!

Could this be a message from God?

Americans for Prosperity, an industry front group that specializes in global warming denial, was planning to hold two townhall meetings in Florida to tell people how absurd global warming is. Unfortunately, those meetings had to be postponed due to Hurricane Fay hitting land in Florida. Perhaps someone should tell them that even the Bush administration recognizes that global warming is increasing the intensity of tropical storms and hurricanes. Not that anyone should need the Bush administration’s agreement to recognize the obvious. As my friend Chris Mooney pointed out in his recent book Storm World, hurricanes are essentially machines driven by heat. Make the oceans warmer and you feed more fuel to the machine and get more energy out as a result. Anyone with a basic high school education should be able to understand this.

The cross in the dirt story

At the televised forum hosted by prominent evangelical leader Rick Warren at his Saddleback Church in California, John McCain told a story about one of the guards at the Hanoi Hilton where he was held prisoner giving him the inspiration to endure his ordeal:

It was Christmas day, we were allowed to stand outside of our cell for a few minutes, and those days we were not allowed to see or communicate with each other although we certainly did. And I was standing outside for my few minutes, outside my cell. He came walking up. He stood there for a minute and with his sandal on the dirt in the courtyard he drew a cross and he stood there and a minute later, he rubbed it out and walked away. For a minute there, there was just two Christians worshiping together. I’ll never forget that moment…

The blogosphere erupted the next day with doubts about the veracity of this story. Some pointed out that this story is remarkably similar to a story told about (but not by) Alexander Solzhenitsyn and his time in a Soviet gulag. Others then noted that the story has long been a staple of Christian apologetics going back to the early days of the church, suggesting that it’s really just a mythological archetype. Could it be that McCain is taking a stock story and applying it to himself?

Andrew Sullivan has been dogged in his examination of the issue and he points out several more relevant facts. First, that despite his current claim that this moment was a pivotal turning point in his time as a POW, allowing him the faith and strength to survive, McCain had never bothered to mention it prior to his first run for president in 2000. And when he did mention it in 2000, he told it as if it was about someone else, not himself. Here is the text of a speech he gave in 2000 (the same speech, by the way, where he called Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell “agents of intolerance”):

Many years ago a scared American prisoner of war in Vietnam was tied in torture ropes by his tormentors and left alone in an empty room to suffer through the night. Later in the evening a guard he had never spoken to entered the room and silently loosened the ropes to relieve his suffering. Just before morning, that same guard came back and re-tightened the ropes before his less humanitarian comrades returned. He never said a word to the grateful prisoner, but some months later, on a Christmas morning, as the prisoner stood alone in the prison courtyard, the same good Samaritan walked up to him and stood next to him for a few moments. Then with his sandal, the guard drew a cross in the dirt. Both prisoner and guard both stood wordlessly there for a minute or two, venerating the cross, until the guard rubbed it out and walked away.

It’s possible, of course, that he was using a rhetorical device here by referring to himself in the third person, but why? Surely the story would have been more powerful if he made clear that he was the prisoner in the story, as he does now. There is also the fact that McCain wrote a 12,000 word article for the US News and World Report in 1973 about his time as a prisoner, and while he mentions the importance of religion to the prisoners and tells another story about the kindness of a guard loosening his ropes for a bit, this far more important story goes unmentioned. Sounds like someone is bearing false witness.

Another one bites the dust

Yet another prominent evangelical leader has been caught cheating on his wife and resigned in disgrace. This time it’s Todd Bentley, the tattooed and pierced pentecostal preacher who has been leading a revival attracting hundreds of thousands of people to Lakeland, Florida for faith fake healing. After his wife filed for divorce, this message appeared on his ministry website announcing his resignation:

We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.

An “unhealthy relationship on an emotional level.” Translation: they were knocking boots. Emotionally. The reaction from his followers was no doubt a sign of the times: “Whew, at least it was with a woman.” Ted Haggard to the white courtesy phone.

Comments

  • GreRee1

    Two things. First, hurricanes aren't machines driven by heat. That's much too simplistic. It would be more accurate to say hurricanes are machines driven by temperature differentials. So if the entire globe is warming, then the temperature differential would remain the same. Hurricanes wouldn't get stronger. Which is pretty much reflected in the real world.

    Second, Orson Swindle was a POW with McCain in Vietnam. He remembers McCain telling the story about the cross in the dirt while a prisoner of war.

    • ebrayton

      GreRee1 wrote:

      First, hurricanes aren't machines driven by heat. That's much too simplistic. It would be more accurate to say hurricanes are machines driven by temperature differentials. So if the entire globe is warming, then the temperature differential would remain the same. Hurricanes wouldn't get stronger. Which is pretty much reflected in the real world.

      No it's not. As ocean temperatures have risen, so have the severity of hurricanes and typhoons. You'll really find no doubt about this among serious researchers. They may disagree on whether the warming is caused by humans and they may disagree about how or whether humans can fix the problem, but it's pretty much universally recognized that warmer oceans (no matter what causes them) make hurricanes more severe.

      Second, Orson Swindle was a POW with McCain in Vietnam. He remembers McCain telling the story about the cross in the dirt while a prisoner of war.

      IIRC, he told the National Review that he “vaguely” recalls hearing such a story. Not exactly a strong confirmation, especially since McCain appears to have told the story about someone else as well. We don't have anything like conclusive proof that McCain has borrowed or embellished the story, but there's good reason for skepticism.

  • Stuart

    You're an idiot!…in your “Could this be a message from God?” column. So from now on, whenever we have a tornado, flood, hurricane, hail, or earthquake, it will be attributed to global warming or climate change. I bet you honestly believe that. You do know that these events have been happening for thousands of years, and not just recently, but even fewer recently? Did you know that I found seashells in Oklahoma and shark's teeth in the Smokies. Wow. I wonder how we, the human race, caused that phenomenon? I'm sure you won't post this because you don't want your readers to be informed or understand what is really going on. It's a power grab scheme and redistribution of wealth in our country by a few…a few that can afford to purchase “carbon credits.” Why is it ok to break the “law” if you can afford to pay your way out of it…i.e. Al Gore and Hillary's carbon credit purchases to off-set their jet-setting lifestyles. Educate us…don't insult us.

    • Travis

      Well said Stuart!

      I could point by point disect your article… However, let me point out one thing. The bible gives the example of going into the store room (a back room) and praying. In fact, pubic prayer is described as 'it's own reward'. Just because one is claiming to be a christian, doesn't mean that they are… or that they are actually practicing Christianity biblically (i.e. properly).

      Food for thought.

    • Rayne1

      Apparently we need to use a heavily bolded SNARK tag on the subhead, “Could it be a message from God?” for some people.

    • ebrayton

      Stuart wrote:

      You're an idiot!

      Oh gosh, I love comments that start this way.

      So from now on, whenever we have a tornado, flood, hurricane, hail, or earthquake, it will be attributed to global warming or climate change. I bet you honestly believe that.

      No, only an idiot would believe that. Global warming has no connection to earthquakes at all, but there is a clear connection to hurricanes. Whether you believe that global warming is caused by humans or not, warmer oceans mean more severe (not more as a matter of quantity, just worse as a matter of quality) hurricanes. This is well established by climatologists and meteorologists and not really a matter of much controversy. That strikes me as a much better explanation than, say, those who continually attribute natural disasters to the anger of God.

      You do know that these events have been happening for thousands of years, and not just recently, but even fewer recently?

      Of course, but that has nothing at all to do with anything I wrote.

      Did you know that I found seashells in Oklahoma and shark's teeth in the Smokies. Wow. I wonder how we, the human race, caused that phenomenon?

      We didn't. And no one said we did, so your point seems illusory at best. By the way, you found seashells in Oklahoma and shark's teeth in the Smokies because both of those places, like every other place on earth, was at one time or another, and probably many times over, under water. In the case of the smoky mountains, the mountains were then uplifted by tectonic activity over millions of years. When the rocks in which you found seashells were deposited, they were at sea level and covered with water. In the case of Oklahoma, the waters receded over long periods of time and now it's terrestrial rather than subaqueous.

      I'm sure you won't post this because you don't want your readers to be informed or understand what is really going on.

      That would be one more thing you're wrong on.

      It's a power grab scheme and redistribution of wealth in our country by a few…a few that can afford to purchase “carbon credits.” Why is it ok to break the “law” if you can afford to pay your way out of it…i.e. Al Gore and Hillary's carbon credit purchases to off-set their jet-setting lifestyles. Educate us…don't insult us.

      You seem to be laboring under the misconception that this article had something to do with the question of whether global warming is human-caused or not. But that has no relevance at all to what was written. Whether global warming is or is not caused by human beings, we do know that the oceans are getting warmer and we do know that warmer oceans means more severe hurricanes.

  • http://miconservative.blogspot.com Joe Sylvester

    Mr Brayton:

    You apparently are an idiotic bigot. You should be thankful conservatives aren't a bunch of cry babies (like the leftists) and are not going to flock here and condemn you.

    Apparently you do not understand Christian doctrine very well. Because they are praying, or are faithful Christians does not mean God is going to help them win the game.

    This kind of guttersnipe trash writing is maybe why you are not at a established news outlet?

    Viva Mao…right?

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    • ebrayton

      Joe Sylvester wrote:

      You apparently are an idiotic bigot. You should be thankful conservatives aren't a bunch of cry babies (like the leftists) and are not going to flock here and condemn you.

      Another irony meter bites the dust.

      Apparently you do not understand Christian doctrine very well. Because they are praying, or are faithful Christians does not mean God is going to help them win the game.

      Who said anything about helping anyone win any game? I certainly didn't. The archery coach did say that Christianity helps “empty the mind” and that makes those in his charge better archers, but that 's a rather silly thing to say wouldn't you agree?

      This kind of guttersnipe trash writing is maybe why you are not at a established news outlet?

      Is there a substantive argument anywhere in here, or did you just want to call me a big poopyhead?

      Viva Mao…right?

      Ah yes, the typical right wing smear of calling anyone they don't like a communist. It would be amusing if it wasn't so utterly idiotic. I am the furthest thing from a communist, I'm a libertarian. I raised money for the Victims of Communism memorial, for crying out loud.

  • http://miconservative.blogspot.com Joe Sylvester

    Attacks?? Like implying that Christians are dumb?

    • Rayne1

      Is that your interpretation of this post? What a pity for you.

      In every group of religious practice, there are folks who are shining examples of humanity and others who are not, and a large percentage somewhere in between. Mr. Brayton has merely offered up some of the more amusing specimens in that distribution.

    • ebrayton

      Nowhere did I say or imply that Christians are dumb. Dumb Christians are dumb, of course, but that's a tautology. The man cited above who claims that praying at the pump brought down gas prices is peddling nonsense. Is there something wrong with calling it that? The archery coach is abusing his position in order to proselytize. If it was a Muslim doing that, I suspect you'd be going ballistic (and I'd be saying the very same thing, as I've done many times in the past). Is there something wrong with criticizing him for doing so?

      You will never hear me say or imply that all Christians are stupid. That would be a remarkably stupid thing to say and it would undermine a great deal of what I do. I work every day with Christians who find the people I criticized above just as ridiculous as I do. Are they anti-Christian bigots for wanting their own fellow Christians to stop behaving the way they do?

  • ebrayton

    Joe Sylvester wrote:

    You apparently are an idiotic bigot. You should be thankful conservatives aren't a bunch of cry babies (like the leftists) and are not going to flock here and condemn you.

    Another irony meter bites the dust.

    Apparently you do not understand Christian doctrine very well. Because they are praying, or are faithful Christians does not mean God is going to help them win the game.

    Who said anything about helping anyone win any game? I certainly didn't. The archery coach did say that Christianity helps “empty the mind” and that makes those in his charge better archers, but that 's a rather silly thing to say wouldn't you agree?

    This kind of guttersnipe trash writing is maybe why you are not at a established news outlet?

    Is there a substantive argument anywhere in here, or did you just want to call me a big poopyhead?

    Viva Mao…right?

    Ah yes, the typical right wing smear of calling anyone they don't like a communist. It would be amusing if it wasn't so utterly idiotic. I am the furthest thing from a communist, I'm a libertarian. I raised money for the Victims of Communism memorial, for crying out loud.

  • ebrayton

    Nowhere did I say or imply that Christians are dumb. Dumb Christians are dumb, of course, but that's a tautology. The man cited above who claims that praying at the pump brought down gas prices is peddling nonsense. Is there something wrong with calling it that? The archery coach is abusing his position in order to proselytize. If it was a Muslim doing that, I suspect you'd be going ballistic (and I'd be saying the very same thing, as I've done many times in the past). Is there something wrong with criticizing him for doing so?

    You will never hear me say or imply that all Christians are stupid. That would be a remarkably stupid thing to say and it would undermine a great deal of what I do. I work every day with Christians who find the people I criticized above just as ridiculous as I do. Are they anti-Christian bigots for wanting their own fellow Christians to stop behaving the way they do?

  • ebrayton

    Joe Sylvester wrote:

    You apparently are an idiotic bigot. You should be thankful conservatives aren't a bunch of cry babies (like the leftists) and are not going to flock here and condemn you.

    Another irony meter bites the dust.

    Apparently you do not understand Christian doctrine very well. Because they are praying, or are faithful Christians does not mean God is going to help them win the game.

    Who said anything about helping anyone win any game? I certainly didn't. The archery coach did say that Christianity helps “empty the mind” and that makes those in his charge better archers, but that 's a rather silly thing to say wouldn't you agree?

    This kind of guttersnipe trash writing is maybe why you are not at a established news outlet?

    Is there a substantive argument anywhere in here, or did you just want to call me a big poopyhead?

    Viva Mao…right?

    Ah yes, the typical right wing smear of calling anyone they don't like a communist. It would be amusing if it wasn't so utterly idiotic. I am the furthest thing from a communist, I'm a libertarian. I raised money for the Victims of Communism memorial, for crying out loud.

  • ebrayton

    Nowhere did I say or imply that Christians are dumb. Dumb Christians are dumb, of course, but that's a tautology. The man cited above who claims that praying at the pump brought down gas prices is peddling nonsense. Is there something wrong with calling it that? The archery coach is abusing his position in order to proselytize. If it was a Muslim doing that, I suspect you'd be going ballistic (and I'd be saying the very same thing, as I've done many times in the past). Is there something wrong with criticizing him for doing so?

    You will never hear me say or imply that all Christians are stupid. That would be a remarkably stupid thing to say and it would undermine a great deal of what I do. I work every day with Christians who find the people I criticized above just as ridiculous as I do. Are they anti-Christian bigots for wanting their own fellow Christians to stop behaving the way they do?

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