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	<title>Comments on: Gitmo or no? House panel hears testimony on whether to move prisoners to Standish</title>
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		<title>By: KeriMaude</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trajan8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trajan8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let&#039;s say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it was 100% clear &amp; obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn&#039;t try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it&#039;s hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don&#039;t trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as &#039;criminal&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t a logical reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought: </p>
<p>If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let&#39;s say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent. </p>
<p>If it was 100% clear &#038; obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn&#39;t try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it&#39;s hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don&#39;t trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as &#39;criminal&#39;.</p>
<p>So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn&#39;t mean there isn&#39;t a logical reason.</p>
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		<title>By: jfizzle2cmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfizzle2cmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That&#039;s fucking insane!! It&#039;s people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we&#039;re involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children&#039;s health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn&#039;t yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That&#39;s fucking insane!! It&#39;s people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we&#39;re involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children&#39;s health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn&#39;t yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.</p>
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		<title>By: Trajan8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trajan8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let&#039;s say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it was 100% clear &amp; obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn&#039;t try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it&#039;s hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don&#039;t trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as &#039;criminal&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t a logical reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought: </p>
<p>If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let&#39;s say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent. </p>
<p>If it was 100% clear &#038; obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn&#39;t try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it&#39;s hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don&#39;t trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as &#39;criminal&#39;.</p>
<p>So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn&#39;t mean there isn&#39;t a logical reason.</p>
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		<title>By: jfizzle2cmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfizzle2cmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That&#039;s fucking insane!! It&#039;s people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we&#039;re involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children&#039;s health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn&#039;t yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That&#39;s fucking insane!! It&#39;s people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we&#39;re involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children&#39;s health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn&#39;t yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.</p>
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		<title>By: Trajan8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trajan8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let&#039;s say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it was 100% clear &amp; obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn&#039;t try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it&#039;s hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don&#039;t trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as &#039;criminal&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn&#039;t mean there isn&#039;t a logical reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought: </p>
<p>If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let&#39;s say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent. </p>
<p>If it was 100% clear &#038; obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn&#39;t try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it&#39;s hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don&#39;t trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as &#39;criminal&#39;.</p>
<p>So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn&#39;t mean there isn&#39;t a logical reason.</p>
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		<title>By: jfizzle2cmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfizzle2cmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That&#039;s fucking insane!! It&#039;s people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we&#039;re involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children&#039;s health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn&#039;t yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That&#39;s fucking insane!! It&#39;s people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we&#39;re involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children&#39;s health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn&#39;t yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test 123&lt;i&gt;Test&lt;b&gt;Bold</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test 123<i>Test<b>Bold</b></i></p>
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		<title>By: Trajan8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trajan8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In theory, that is a valid point. My only question though, which could invalidate it, would be: Do you expect that these inmates are going to have any contact with the outside world? Maybe my knowledge on prison breaks is minimal (since I don&#039;t watch that show), but I would assume that to get someone out of prison, you would need to give them some sort of heads-up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If my assumption is wrong, and they&#039;ll have the opportunity to have visitors, then I can empathize with your position. But if, as far as the inmates are concerned, they&#039;re treated the same as they are in Guantanimo, I don&#039;t know if your fear is justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory, that is a valid point. My only question though, which could invalidate it, would be: Do you expect that these inmates are going to have any contact with the outside world? Maybe my knowledge on prison breaks is minimal (since I don&#39;t watch that show), but I would assume that to get someone out of prison, you would need to give them some sort of heads-up.</p>
<p>If my assumption is wrong, and they&#39;ll have the opportunity to have visitors, then I can empathize with your position. But if, as far as the inmates are concerned, they&#39;re treated the same as they are in Guantanimo, I don&#39;t know if your fear is justified.</p>
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		<title>By: ConservativeinaLiberalLand</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConservativeinaLiberalLand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say it again:  With the largest middle eastern population living less than 2 hours from Standish, I&#039;d be willing to bet there be numerous prison break attempts.  Please think about it.  My vote, &quot;Bad Idea.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ll say it again:  With the largest middle eastern population living less than 2 hours from Standish, I&#39;d be willing to bet there be numerous prison break attempts.  Please think about it.  My vote, &#8220;Bad Idea.&#8221;</p>
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