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By Staff Report | 11.16.11

I am writing today to announce the closure of the Michigan Messenger. After four years of operation in Michigan, the board of the American Independent News Network, has decided to shift publication of its news into a single site, The American Independent at Americanindependent.com. This is part of a shift in strategy, towards new forms [...]

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By Todd A. Heywood | 11.16.11

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By Eartha Jane Melzer | 11.14.11

Despite evidence of the impact of mercury on children and public health, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette last month joined with 24 other state attorneys general in filing a lawsuit to scuttle new EPA regulations that would reduce mercury emissions from power plants.

Gitmo or no? House panel hears testimony on whether to move prisoners to Standish

By Todd A. Heywood | 08.12.09 | 2:40 pm
Representatives Joel Sheltrown, D-West Branch; Jeff Mayes, D-Bay City; and Tim Moore, R-Farwell testify Wednesday before a state house subcommittee about new uses for the prison in Standish.

State Reps. Joel Sheltrown (D-West Branch), Jeff Mayes (D-Bay City) and Tim Moore (R-Farwell) testify Wednesday before a state House subcommittee about new uses for the prison in Standish. (Photo by Todd A. Heywood/Michigan Messenger)

LANSING — A hearing today by state legislators about using surplus state jail space to house out-of-state prisoners or foreign terrorist detainees left more questions than answers for lawmakers and residents of Standish, which has been cited as a possible new home for those currently held at Guantanamo Bay.

Gov. Jennifer Granholm ordered the maximum-security prison facility in the Arenac County town of 1,200 closed in order to save money in a tight budget crisis. But in June, the governor announced she was negotiating with California to possibly house low to medium security risk prisoners in the Standish facility.

Wednesday morning, the state House Judiciary Committee’s corrections reform subcommittee held a two-hour hearing into the proposed uses of the facility.

“There has been a lack of communication from the federal government and the state of Michigan of what the plans are,” said Rep. Tim Moore, a Republican from Farwell. Moore noted that the region’s top priority was keeping the prison open, preferably by housing out of state inmates. He said housing the Guantanamo prisoners would mean that the prison would be taken over and run by the Defense Department. While that would mean a net growth of jobs from the approximate 350 positions currently running the facility to 500 to 1000, Moore noted those would end up being federal employees.

Moore said the impact on the prison closing economically would be deadly to the region, noting the area is already struggling under a 16.7 percent unemployment rate.

Some, like Standish business owner and resident Dave Munson, worry that moving foreign detainees to the area will make the town a target for terrorism.

“California prisoners are Americans. The Gitmo prisoners are jihadists. There’s a big difference,” Munson said.

The bar owner said he keeps a coffin near his bar to remind residents of what will happen if the prison closes, but he said federalizing the prison will cause undue stress in the community.

“If this becomes a federal institution or a military installation, they’re going to want safe zones,” Munson said, talking about cleared-out regions surrounding a prison for security purposes. That, he said, is going to lead the federal government seizing property to expand the security cordon, which residents will not like. “They’re not going to want to give up their land to house jihadists.”

“I don’t believe terrorists are super human,” said Rep. Joel Sheltrown, a Democrat from West Branch. “They are no more dangerous than the Crips and the Bloods. The gangs in California might cause a more dangerous situation [than Guantanamo prisoners].”

Standish City Manager Mike Moran said he did not think security would be an issue, noting the super max federal prison in Colorado — home to people like the Unibomber and the Blind Sheik — did not have any different security issues than other prisons.

“We’re an area where all the people who live in the area are hunters,” Moran noted in downplaying security concerns.

Joseph Sancimino, an Arenac County commissioner who represents Standish, said he doesn’t want Guantanamo prisoners in the prison.

“It’s going to change the way we live,” Sancimino told the subcommittee. “I want Gitmo off the table because it diverts attention from California.”

Sancimino noted a federal judge ruled last week California had to stop triple-bunking prisoners, giving the state 45 days to come up with an alternative housing plan for about 40,000 inmates.

But Curt Hillman, Standish Township supervisor, said if the prison closes, he will have option but to “pack my bags and leave.”

Hillman said he was part of the group that lobbied the state for the prison in the first place, and fought through what he called a “not in my backyard” mentality then. And the concerns raised about safety and security then are the same being raised today with issues around moving Guantanamo prisoners to the area. He said none of those concerns had panned out then, and he doesn’t think they will now either.

“Something is better than nothing,” Hillman said. “We were promised this prison is recession proof.”

Editor’s Note: An earlier version of this story attributed a quote — “I don’t believe terrorists are super human. They are no more dangerous than the Crips and the Bloods. The gangs in California might cause a more dangerous situation [than Guantanamo prisoners]” — to Rep. Jeff Mayes of Bay City when it should have been attributed to Rep. Joel Sheltrown, a Democrat from West Branch. This story has been updated to correct the record.

Comments

  • mznomer

    It's so sad that there aren't enough lawyers working as legislators…

    Or, even enough folks who read about the US Constitution in civic class because the concept of Habeas Corpus would not need to be explained when a remedy to a budget crisis is being discussed.

    NO GITMO DETAINEES IN MICHIGAN!

    I wonder if that sufficiently concise for those who are elected to represent me to understand!

  • ConservativeinaLiberalLand

    I'll say it again: With the largest middle eastern population living less than 2 hours from Standish, I'd be willing to bet there be numerous prison break attempts. Please think about it. My vote, “Bad Idea.”

    • Trajan8

      In theory, that is a valid point. My only question though, which could invalidate it, would be: Do you expect that these inmates are going to have any contact with the outside world? Maybe my knowledge on prison breaks is minimal (since I don't watch that show), but I would assume that to get someone out of prison, you would need to give them some sort of heads-up.

      If my assumption is wrong, and they'll have the opportunity to have visitors, then I can empathize with your position. But if, as far as the inmates are concerned, they're treated the same as they are in Guantanimo, I don't know if your fear is justified.

    • jfizzle2cmu

      Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That's fucking insane!! It's people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we're involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children's health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn't yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.

      • Trajan8

        I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought:

        If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let's say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent.

        If it was 100% clear & obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn't try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it's hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don't trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as 'criminal'.

        So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn't mean there isn't a logical reason.

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  • jfizzle2cmu

    Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That's fucking insane!! It's people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we're involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children's health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn't yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.

  • Trajan8

    I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought:

    If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let's say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent.

    If it was 100% clear & obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn't try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it's hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don't trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as 'criminal'.

    So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn't mean there isn't a logical reason.

  • jfizzle2cmu

    Quit being so fucking racist you pigs! Are you really saying everyone living in Dearborn, whether or not they actively practice Islam, is going to side with suspected terrorists and come to Standish and try to infiltrate a military base with 1000 soldiers and break any of these people out?! That's fucking insane!! It's people like you who hold this country back, why were ranked 37th in health care, why we're involved in a war in Iraq in the first place, why we use tobacco taxes to fund children's health care, why penal fines support our libraries, why our country isn't yet what it should have been. People like you ruin this great country.

  • Trajan8

    I was going to take your route when writing my response to ConservativeinaLiberalLand, but then I thought:

    If I was in another country as a legit citizen, let's say China, and China put up a prison close to me that was to just hold criminals that are American/Canadian, I would be at least a little more likely to consider trying to help them. In the current situation, many of the prisoners are not being given trials. If that was the case in my hypothetical situation, I would consider the possibility that the prisoners are innocent.

    If it was 100% clear & obvious that they were criminals, of course I wouldn't try to break them free. But in the situation with these Gitmo prisoners, it's hard to know whether or not they deserve to be there. If you trust the government, then you would say sure. If you don't trust the government, you would be a little more cynical. If I was in China, I would be cynical about what the Chinese government would label as 'criminal'.

    So it is prejudice to think that an Arab community would sympathize with the prisoners being transferred. But that doesn't mean there isn't a logical reason.

  • KeriMaude

    The main reason for moving was tenants purchasing their own home, followed by people wanting a bigger or better home. These two factors contributed to almost one third of all moves and were followed by lifestyle reasons, family reasons and employment reasons. These three factors were attributed to 36% of all moves.