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	<title>Comments on: Stupak denies knowledge of connections to mysterious &#8216;C Street&#8217; house he lives in</title>
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		<title>By: dougfear1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a hard time with stupak saying he don&#039;t know anything about c house since he has lived there for some time. further information about stupak and his living arangement at the c house should brought forth and investigated. also his connection to the member owners! i don&#039;t understand why he refuses to believe no government money will pay  for abortians! i wonder if the c house is telling him to kill health reform???</description>
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		<title>By: dougfear1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a hard time with stupak saying he don&#039;t know anything about c house since he has lived there for some time. further information about stupak and his living arangement at the c house should brought forth and investigated. also his connection to the member owners! i don&#039;t understand why he refuses to believe no government money will pay  for abortians! i wonder if the c house is telling him to kill health reform???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a hard time with stupak saying he don&#39;t know anything about c house since he has lived there for some time. further information about stupak and his living arangement at the c house should brought forth and investigated. also his connection to the member owners! i don&#39;t understand why he refuses to believe no government money will pay  for abortians! i wonder if the c house is telling him to kill health reform???</p>
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		<title>By: mikerodriquez</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading all these post and understanding the conspiratorial nature of their underlying premises I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that liberalism is a mental disorder.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fellowship Foundation, also known as the prayer breakfast groups, is an international organization founded in 1935 by Dr. Abraham Vereide in Seattle, Washington and incorporated in the central United States city of Chicago. Its participation includes a vast array of high ranking government officials, corporate executives, heads of religious and humanitarian aid organizations, and ambassadors, spanning the globe. It has been described as one of the most well-connected ministries in the US.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The core purpose of this group is to provide a fellowship forum for decision makers to share in Bible Studies, prayer meetings, worship experiences and to experience spiritual affirmation and support.  In Newsweek, Lisa Miller writes that the common love for the teachings of Jesus binds this group together and all approaches to understanding him are acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading all these post and understanding the conspiratorial nature of their underlying premises I&#39;ve come to the conclusion that liberalism is a mental disorder.</p>
<p>Fellowship Foundation, also known as the prayer breakfast groups, is an international organization founded in 1935 by Dr. Abraham Vereide in Seattle, Washington and incorporated in the central United States city of Chicago. Its participation includes a vast array of high ranking government officials, corporate executives, heads of religious and humanitarian aid organizations, and ambassadors, spanning the globe. It has been described as one of the most well-connected ministries in the US.</p>
<p>The core purpose of this group is to provide a fellowship forum for decision makers to share in Bible Studies, prayer meetings, worship experiences and to experience spiritual affirmation and support.  In Newsweek, Lisa Miller writes that the common love for the teachings of Jesus binds this group together and all approaches to understanding him are acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: helensatmary</title>
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		<dc:creator>helensatmary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a left wing conspiracy theory to me. They do not like the idea that he would prevent babies from abortion. Obama&#039;s favorite objective.  God bless him for his stand against abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a left wing conspiracy theory to me. They do not like the idea that he would prevent babies from abortion. Obama&#39;s favorite objective.  God bless him for his stand against abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: EagleNE1</title>
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		<dc:creator>EagleNE1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that there are other &quot;powers that be&quot; trying to smudge my respected representative&#039;s reputation. Here is not where you will find how Bart Stupak has&lt;br&gt;helped the Michigan&#039;s First District. Please take a minute and go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.house.gov/stupak&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.house.gov/stupak&lt;/a&gt; and see the good he has done for us. Here are a few things for example: 170 jobs created or retained in Marquette, Alger, and Delta Counties for installation of broadband Internet services...he has fought to get the outlying peoples connected. He has fought to protect the Great Lakes. Key reforms in the House health reform bill are these: Prohibit insurance companies from discriminating against pre-existing conditions; Eliminate lifetime caps on benefits; allow young people up to age 27 to remain on their parents policy; Prohibits taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants, etc. etc. etc. Please people, understand that Bart Stupak is for you. I have been following his work for us for years and find that he is one of the most honest and trusted of all the politicians. He cannot be bought. The insurance companies hate him because he is fighting for you. But you are listening to the lies contained in this unfortunate article. I believe Bart because he has a history of telling the truth. I do not believe your fiction. A lot of us do not want our tax dollars to fund abortions because it is our money and we believe abortion is wrong. Woman still have the freedom to obtain abortions. This does not make us the devil...as you seem to imply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that there are other &#8220;powers that be&#8221; trying to smudge my respected representative&#39;s reputation. Here is not where you will find how Bart Stupak has<br />helped the Michigan&#39;s First District. Please take a minute and go to <a href="http://www.house.gov/stupak" rel="nofollow">http://www.house.gov/stupak</a> and see the good he has done for us. Here are a few things for example: 170 jobs created or retained in Marquette, Alger, and Delta Counties for installation of broadband Internet services&#8230;he has fought to get the outlying peoples connected. He has fought to protect the Great Lakes. Key reforms in the House health reform bill are these: Prohibit insurance companies from discriminating against pre-existing conditions; Eliminate lifetime caps on benefits; allow young people up to age 27 to remain on their parents policy; Prohibits taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants, etc. etc. etc. Please people, understand that Bart Stupak is for you. I have been following his work for us for years and find that he is one of the most honest and trusted of all the politicians. He cannot be bought. The insurance companies hate him because he is fighting for you. But you are listening to the lies contained in this unfortunate article. I believe Bart because he has a history of telling the truth. I do not believe your fiction. A lot of us do not want our tax dollars to fund abortions because it is our money and we believe abortion is wrong. Woman still have the freedom to obtain abortions. This does not make us the devil&#8230;as you seem to imply.</p>
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		<title>By: lynnhyattbrown</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Stupack is on the wrong track.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And you are wrong about working on Mackinac Island.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People/owners here work really hard and do their best for their employees and for their business.  If you need extra help for 6 weeks in the middle of the summer, and you pay really well for that help - what more can you do?  Its the nature of the beast.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our company does have health insurance, zero co-pay actually, and many year-round employees.  Many of our workers do support their families with the pay the earn here.  We have not taken any profits form the company for a decade, beyond a pay check, so there is no settling in &#039;nice and cozy&#039;.  It would be nice though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,&lt;br&gt;Lynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Stupack is on the wrong track.</p>
<p>And you are wrong about working on Mackinac Island.</p>
<p>People/owners here work really hard and do their best for their employees and for their business.  If you need extra help for 6 weeks in the middle of the summer, and you pay really well for that help &#8211; what more can you do?  Its the nature of the beast.</p>
<p>Our company does have health insurance, zero co-pay actually, and many year-round employees.  Many of our workers do support their families with the pay the earn here.  We have not taken any profits form the company for a decade, beyond a pay check, so there is no settling in &#39;nice and cozy&#39;.  It would be nice though.</p>
<p>Best,<br />Lynn</p>
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		<title>By: bindistrict1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the first district as well, and there are so many unemployed here that would love to take those summer jobs on Mackinac Island or anywhere else, it ain&#039;t even funny.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason you seasonal business owners can&#039;t get workers is because you don&#039;t want to pay them squat, offer no benefits, lay them off before they can work up unemployment benefits to get them through the winter again, and therefore make it impossible for them to make a living with you if they try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They don&#039;t have the option to go back to Jamaica when the season&#039;s over to make beds and serve drinks to the snow birds and jet set.  They&#039;ve got homes and families right here in the first district to try to support through some tough winters.  Their bills and mortgages and rent payments and need to put food on the table doesn&#039;t stop just because the season&#039;s over and the business owners are settled in nice and cozy and living off the season&#039;s profits.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stupak better start thinking about THOSE people for a change, and he needs to stop voting with his crucifix and his prayer beads and his bronze-age mentality towards social issues, and get with the program of serving THE PEOPLE of his district.  I can tell you right now that I&#039;m ready to do everything I can to influence others to vote him right the heck out of office, especially after this latest fiasco of the &quot;Stupak amendment&quot; that was like shooting a torpedo into the health care negotiations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lot of people I&#039;ve talked to are already appalled at ol&#039; Bart for some of his bone-head moves up there on the Hill, and this latest one got WAY too much negative attention to easily forget.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I&#039;ll tell you something else: After listening to him on the first district conference calls, there&#039;s no doubt in my mind that he&#039;s a theistic nut-job who needs a new employment path.  I&#039;m thinking making beds and serving drinks on Mackinac Island would be a good career move for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the first district as well, and there are so many unemployed here that would love to take those summer jobs on Mackinac Island or anywhere else, it ain&#39;t even funny.</p>
<p>The reason you seasonal business owners can&#39;t get workers is because you don&#39;t want to pay them squat, offer no benefits, lay them off before they can work up unemployment benefits to get them through the winter again, and therefore make it impossible for them to make a living with you if they try.</p>
<p>They don&#39;t have the option to go back to Jamaica when the season&#39;s over to make beds and serve drinks to the snow birds and jet set.  They&#39;ve got homes and families right here in the first district to try to support through some tough winters.  Their bills and mortgages and rent payments and need to put food on the table doesn&#39;t stop just because the season&#39;s over and the business owners are settled in nice and cozy and living off the season&#39;s profits.</p>
<p>Stupak better start thinking about THOSE people for a change, and he needs to stop voting with his crucifix and his prayer beads and his bronze-age mentality towards social issues, and get with the program of serving THE PEOPLE of his district.  I can tell you right now that I&#39;m ready to do everything I can to influence others to vote him right the heck out of office, especially after this latest fiasco of the &#8220;Stupak amendment&#8221; that was like shooting a torpedo into the health care negotiations.</p>
<p>A lot of people I&#39;ve talked to are already appalled at ol&#39; Bart for some of his bone-head moves up there on the Hill, and this latest one got WAY too much negative attention to easily forget.</p>
<p>And I&#39;ll tell you something else: After listening to him on the first district conference calls, there&#39;s no doubt in my mind that he&#39;s a theistic nut-job who needs a new employment path.  I&#39;m thinking making beds and serving drinks on Mackinac Island would be a good career move for him.</p>
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		<title>By: lynnhyattbrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynnhyattbrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Michigan&#039;s 1st District - and this is NOT a Democratic area by a long shot!  It is a minor miracle that we have a Dem US Rep, and that is only because Stupak is pretty conservative.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for support of seasonal H-2(b) visas:  That is about Mackinac Island, a beautiful summer resort island area.  We need to import workers for the summer.  Our family businesses are in critical need of summer workers - college students won&#039;t do the work, auto workers won&#039;t, and there is not enough local population to fill all the need.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems counter-intuitive with the unemployment in Michigan, but our situation is pretty dire.  Every season we all struggle to open our doors because we do not have enough workers.  Before 9/11 many hospitality workers came from winter resort areas, Jamaica, etc.  Now they are not allowed and we are all going to go down if we don&#039;t get some of them back!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As much as I love a good conspiracy, Stupak is trying to help real people and their businesses in our District - not some nutty group!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Michigan&#39;s 1st District &#8211; and this is NOT a Democratic area by a long shot!  It is a minor miracle that we have a Dem US Rep, and that is only because Stupak is pretty conservative.  </p>
<p>As for support of seasonal H-2(b) visas:  That is about Mackinac Island, a beautiful summer resort island area.  We need to import workers for the summer.  Our family businesses are in critical need of summer workers &#8211; college students won&#39;t do the work, auto workers won&#39;t, and there is not enough local population to fill all the need.</p>
<p>It seems counter-intuitive with the unemployment in Michigan, but our situation is pretty dire.  Every season we all struggle to open our doors because we do not have enough workers.  Before 9/11 many hospitality workers came from winter resort areas, Jamaica, etc.  Now they are not allowed and we are all going to go down if we don&#39;t get some of them back!!</p>
<p>As much as I love a good conspiracy, Stupak is trying to help real people and their businesses in our District &#8211; not some nutty group!</p>
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		<title>By: feuclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>feuclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was the same before the family tragedy.  I don&#039;t believe there&#039;s cause and effect there at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was the same before the family tragedy.  I don&#39;t believe there&#39;s cause and effect there at all.</p>
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		<title>By: vince2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>vince2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/26/stimulating-sex-russ-limbaugh-blames-sanford-affair-on-obama-economic-policies/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/26/stimulatin...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;November 16, 2009 at 8:55 am&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is some great news. I reported above, June 26, 2009 at 10:09 am, that the religious retreat on Capitol Hill was nothing but a tax dodge: “The property is Tax Type E1, Religious. It is tax exempt. No tax payments are shown. The Members live in a tax-free property. Most of those who live in the District have to pay property taxes, or pay rent to landlords who pay property taxes. These Senators and Representatives say some prayers in the dining room, claim their flophouse as a church, convent or monastery, and pay sub-market rent for their rooms. They are sponging off the taxpayers of the District, and will not even vote to give them representation in Congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;”This does not even sink to the level of hypocrisy. It is pure, simple, unadulterated, unmitigated gall.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the right-wing residential “church” on Capitol Hill at 133 E St SE, where Mark Sanford and John Ensign mulled over their respective adulteries, used to be exempt from property tax as a religious property.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, at least one complaint just happened to be filed a few months ago, by some anonymous citizen who will remain nameless “”wink, wink,” with the taxpayer hotline at the DC tax office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The property has now been reclassified as residential, with a taxable assessment of $1,834,500.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They paid their property tax on October 21, 2009, in the amount of $1,714.70.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.taxpayerservicecenter.com/RP_Search.jsp?search_type=Assessment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.taxpayerservicecenter.com/RP_Search...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Just plug in the address 133 C St SE, then click on “square/lot” in upper left, then click on “view payments” in lower right. It is all there).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Owner Name: YOUTH WITH A MISSION WASHINGTON DC INC C ST CENTER&lt;br&gt;Tax Class: 001 – Residential.</description>
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<p>November 16, 2009 at 8:55 am</p>
<p>Here is some great news. I reported above, June 26, 2009 at 10:09 am, that the religious retreat on Capitol Hill was nothing but a tax dodge: “The property is Tax Type E1, Religious. It is tax exempt. No tax payments are shown. The Members live in a tax-free property. Most of those who live in the District have to pay property taxes, or pay rent to landlords who pay property taxes. These Senators and Representatives say some prayers in the dining room, claim their flophouse as a church, convent or monastery, and pay sub-market rent for their rooms. They are sponging off the taxpayers of the District, and will not even vote to give them representation in Congress.</p>
<p>”This does not even sink to the level of hypocrisy. It is pure, simple, unadulterated, unmitigated gall.”</p>
<p>So the right-wing residential “church” on Capitol Hill at 133 E St SE, where Mark Sanford and John Ensign mulled over their respective adulteries, used to be exempt from property tax as a religious property.</p>
<p>Well, at least one complaint just happened to be filed a few months ago, by some anonymous citizen who will remain nameless “”wink, wink,” with the taxpayer hotline at the DC tax office.</p>
<p>The property has now been reclassified as residential, with a taxable assessment of $1,834,500.</p>
<p>They paid their property tax on October 21, 2009, in the amount of $1,714.70.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.taxpayerservicecenter.com/RP_Search.jsp?search_type=Assessment" rel="nofollow">https://www.taxpayerservicecenter.com/RP_Search&#8230;</a></p>
<p>(Just plug in the address 133 C St SE, then click on “square/lot” in upper left, then click on “view payments” in lower right. It is all there).</p>
<p>Owner Name: YOUTH WITH A MISSION WASHINGTON DC INC C ST CENTER<br />Tax Class: 001 – Residential.</p>
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