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The Michigan Messenger going forward

By Staff Report | 11.16.11

I am writing today to announce the closure of the Michigan Messenger. After four years of operation in Michigan, the board of the American Independent News Network, has decided to shift publication of its news into a single site, The American Independent at Americanindependent.com. This is part of a shift in strategy, towards new forms [...]

Colorado-based abstinence program provided false and misleading information to Michigan students

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By Todd A. Heywood | 11.16.11

An abstinence-only presentation provided to numerous school districts in Calhoun and Eaton Counties in October of this year provided false and misleading information to students about HIV, experts allege.

Class action lawsuit filed against MERS over unpaid taxes

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By Todd A. Heywood | 11.15.11

Two county registers of deeds filed a class action lawsuit Monday on behalf of Michigan’s 83 counties alleging that the Mortgage Electronic Registration Services owes millions of dollars in property title transfer taxes.

Schuette fights important mercury regulations

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By Eartha Jane Melzer | 11.14.11

Despite evidence of the impact of mercury on children and public health, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette last month joined with 24 other state attorneys general in filing a lawsuit to scuttle new EPA regulations that would reduce mercury emissions from power plants.

Hoekstra: Pelosi knew about waterboarding

By Ed Brayton | 05.11.09 | 1:50 am

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, a Republican candidate for governor and former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, says he has seen firsthand the same intelligence briefings given to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and that it included specific information about the use of waterboarding and other forms of torture and abuse used on terror detainees.

GOP Rep. Pete Hoekstra is upping the stakes of the torture fight in response to Nancy Pelosi’s claims that she wasn’t briefed on the use of waterboarding.

His office tells me that he’s seen documents that will prove this isn’t true.

Hoekstra spokesperson Jamal Ware says that Hoekstra is now seeking the release of the memos and notes that comprised the basis of the documents that came out today that claimed Dems had been briefed on enhanced interrogation techniques.

“He has seen documents that would clarify exactly what the Speaker was briefed on,” Ware tells me, “including whether she was briefed on all enhanced interrogation techniques that had been used.”

Asked if those techniques included waterboarding, Ware replied: “Yes.”

Pelosi continues to deny that she was ever told about waterboarding other than in the abstract, saying that the Bush administration told her only that such techniques were legal, not that they were ever actually used. This despite newly released documents from Leon Panetta, Obama’s CIA director, that indicate (though not conclusively) that Pelosi and other leading Democrats in Congress, particularly those with key positions on intelligence committees like Jane Harman and Jay Rockefeller, were told about the waterboarding of Abu Zubaida.

I agree with Josh Marshall when he says that Democrats should not kid themselves about this, that it is likely that several Democratic legislators were briefed on the use of torture and abuse of detainees years ago and did nothing to stop it. I also agree that this is another good reason to have a full investigation of the matter that looks not only at the actions of the Bush administration but also at what Congressional leaders were told and what they did, or didn’t do, with that information.

Having such an investigation that focuses on leaders in both parties will help mute that talk of any such investigations being a question of political revenge. And if Democrats are caught up in it and it turns out, as it now appears, that leaders like Pelosi and Harman knew that torture was going on and did nothing to prevent it, they should suffer the consequences of that inaction, whether they be legal or political. This is a matter of principle over politics.

Comments

  • pray11342

    So Pete Hoekstra has joined a loud and angry mob of Republicans that insist that Nancy Pelosi and others were “briefed” on “enhanced interrogation techniques”.

    Yes, good work Pete.

    I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at those briefings. I have seen accounts that those Democrats claim that the original “briefing” in March 2002 consisted of a meeting where they signed non-disclosure agreements, listened to a dog and pony show for a couple of hours, were not allowed to take notes, could not consult with legal counsel or even with their own staffs.

    In that context, how much do you really think was disclosed in those meetings? The context would include the fact that it was just a few months after 9/11, Bush, Cheney and Co. were touring the country with fife and drum, lying and bending CIA Intelligence to their will, Republicans were firmly in control of both houses of Congress.

    Now I see Democrats that should know better, wondering why those Democrats did not immediately come out of those meetings and run out in front of the nearest bus. Who the hell do you think would have given them the slightest heed in March 2002?

    IMHO, this Republican effort to tar some Democrats with the brush of “enabling torture” is an effort to get Congress to forget about the whle thing.

    It looks like it will work very well, everywhere I look I find Democrats that seem to think being told about this ugly business under those circumstances is somehow equivalent to being responsible fot it.

  • johnhkennedy

    Oh for pity sake – The Voters know it was torture… the whole universe knows.

    The REPUBLICAN TORTURE PROGRAM
    is ALL Illegal under Federal Law, not just part of it.

    TORTURE IS A FEDERAL CRIME – SEE The Law http://tinyurl.com/besdd3

    It is Never Debatable and Never Morally Correct.
    IT is a heinous Federal Capital Crime.

    WHY IS OBAMA PROTECTING BUSH AND CHENEY?
    They obviously violated Federal Law.

    If you do nothing else for your Country today,

    SIGN THE PETITION To Prosecute Them For Torture
    AT ANGRYVOTERS dot ORG

    http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

    Over 250,000 have signed
    Join them and call yourself a Patriot

  • johnhkennedy

    Oh for pity sake – The Voters know it was torture… the whole universe knows.

    The REPUBLICAN TORTURE PROGRAM
    is ALL Illegal under Federal Law, not just part of it.

    TORTURE IS A FEDERAL CRIME – SEE The Law http://tinyurl.com/besdd3

    It is Never Debatable and Never Morally Correct.
    IT is a heinous Federal Capital Crime.

    WHY IS OBAMA PROTECTING BUSH AND CHENEY?
    They obviously violated Federal Law.

    If you do nothing else for your Country today,

    SIGN THE PETITION To Prosecute Them For Torture
    AT ANGRYVOTERS dot ORG

    http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

    Over 250,000 have signed
    Join them and call yourself a Patriot

  • johnhkennedy

    Oh for pity sake – The Voters know it was torture… the whole universe knows.

    The REPUBLICAN TORTURE PROGRAM
    is ALL Illegal under Federal Law, not just part of it.

    TORTURE IS A FEDERAL CRIME – SEE The Law http://tinyurl.com/besdd3

    It is Never Debatable and Never Morally Correct.
    IT is a heinous Federal Capital Crime.

    WHY IS OBAMA PROTECTING BUSH AND CHENEY?
    They obviously violated Federal Law.

    If you do nothing else for your Country today,

    SIGN THE PETITION To Prosecute Them For Torture
    AT ANGRYVOTERS dot ORG

    http://ANGRYVOTERS.ORG

    Over 250,000 have signed
    Join them and call yourself a Patriot