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At Walleye Fest, many unaware of toxic danger under their feet

By Eartha Jane Melzer | 04.27.09 | 10:43 pm
State officials have urged Tittabawassee Township to warn people that toxic sediments can settle on this dock at Freeland Festival Park. (Photo by Eartha Jane Melzer/Michigan Messenger)

State officials have warned that toxic sediments can settle on this dock at Freeland Festival Park when it's covered by higher water, as it was this weekend during Walleye Fest. (Photo by Eartha Jane Melzer/Michigan Messenger)

FREELAND — Walleye Fest in this Saginaw County village is advertised on the state’s Pure Michigan tourism website as a three-day event “celebrating all things walleye.” But any visitors who had planned on checking out the fishing celebration or those who showed up to this past weekend’s event sponsored by Dow Chemical probably wouldn’t have have known that the Tittabawassee River and the fish coming out of it contain dangerous levels of toxins.

There are no visible signs of danger along the bucolic river, which attracts anglers from across the region. Only a few posted signs that hint of the danger in the water.

Although a plaque mounted near the fishing dock in Freeland’s Festival Park acknowledges that Dow Chemical is partially responsible for some of the improvements made to the dock in 2005, it makes no mention of the fact that the changes were mandated by the state as a way of reducing the public health threat posed by dioxins that have spread downstream from Dow’s Midland facility, the source of dioxin contamination that reaches all the way into Lake Huron’s Saginaw Bay.

In 2007, the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality wrote to Tittabawassee Township officials urging them to post fish consumption advisories and to take steps to limit public exposure to contaminated sediments that can accumulate on the fishing dock:

The major concern is that the fishing platform is frequently flooded, resulting in the deposition of highly contaminated sediments on its surface. People using the platform after a high water event would be directly exposed to the contaminated sediment.

Dioxin is highly toxic and causes cancer and disruption of the endocrine, reproductive and immune systems and interferes with fetal development. The state requires clean up of dioxin contamination at 90 parts per trillion — levels as high as 5,000 parts per trillion have been detected in Freeland Festival Park, where much of this weekend’s activities took place.

But on Saturday afternoon during a break between rain showers, Lori and Joe Butters of Midland, along with their children and grandchildren, stood on the park’s fishing dock, celebrating the warm spring weather and the beginning of walleye season.

Some members of the family were barefoot on the partially flooded dock. One of the Butters’ grand-daughters even complained that her feet were burning.

Lori Butters said she was unaware of the state’s fish consumption advisory. The official warning, updated last year, cautions children and pre-menopausal women to strictly limit their consumption of fish from the Tittabawassee and Saginaw rivers and to eat no walleye larger than 18 inches.

But Butters said that she once saw a news report on the area’s CBS affiliate, WNEM-TV, that a person could eat 5 lbs. of fish at one sitting.

“We eat it outta here, the grandkids eat it outta here. They love fish. We eat all kinds.”

Butters pointed to 15-year old Zack Prince, who was packing up his fishing gear after catching four large walleye, said to be 18-22 inches in length, from the river bank.

“He’s taking them home,” she said. “He’s going to eat them.”

Dow’s presence, up and down the river

The walleye festival featured a fishing tournament and a $1,000 prize for the angler who brought in the most weight for ten walleye. This year’s winner brought in nearly 50 lbs. of fish. The Saginaw News reported that by the close of the tournament on Sunday afternoon, more than 2,800 lbs. of fish were weighed in.

In the Tittabawasee Township Park, near Freeland’s Festival Park, a picnic pavilion adorned with a Dow Chemical sponsorship banner served as the weigh-in station for the tournament.

At a nearby pond, families with children gathered for the junior fishing competition.

A sign posted near the pond announced that the fish were for catch and release only and contact with the water is prohibited at all times. The state fish consumption advisory was not posted.

Richard Williams said his family came to Walleye Fest from Mount Pleasant because last year, his 9-year-old daughter caught a 12 1/2-inch rainbow trout in the junior fishing tournament and won a new fishing pole and tackle box.

Williams said that he’s aware that the river is contaminated. “Dow owns property on both sides of the river and so they figure they can contaminate our river,” he said. “Dow should give more money to the [Department of Natural Resources] to set up fishing ponds for kids.”

Although he said he was not aware of the state fish advisory’s details, Williams said he would not eat any fish from rivers south of Midland. But one of Williams’ relatives said he thought eating walleye was safe. “I’ve been doing it all my life and I haven’t grown gills,” he said.

Over at the local Chevrolet dealership, the Freeland Lions Club was hosting a Walleye Fest “Texas Hold ‘Em” poker tournament, and the attached Walleye Festival “Phish Tent” was empty save for those manning the beer taps for the poker players. Heavy rain poured off the tent, creating small rivers in the parking lot.

dioxin-hatOne man in a Lions Club polo shirt said that he was a life-long Freeland resident and said that he agreed with the message proclaimed in the unofficial “Dioxins My Ass” Walleye Fest hat, something that illustrates the broad local skepticism of the dioxin dangers. The hats have been a hot commodity.

The man, who refused to identify himself, said that he had been concerned about the river contamination until joining the Lions Club where he listened to a presentation by a researcher working on a Michigan State University study of Tittabawassee River wildlife that was funded by Dow Chemical. After the researcher’s talk, he no longer felt that dioxin was a problem and said that media reports were blowing the contamination risk out of proportion.

The 16-page walleye festival guide distributed at the weekend event contained no mention of the state’s fish advisory. Its entire back cover was an advertisement for Bay Fest, another Dow-sponsored fishing event scheduled for late May in Bay City.

Officials step-up risk communication

In response to concerns about the need for expanded local outreach efforts on the risks of eating local fish from the Saginaw River watershed, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has funded a state health education program that will begin in May. As Walleye Fest began on Friday, the agency announced as an interim step that the Saginaw County Department of Public Health would distribute fish consumption advisories to festival goers.

Bridget Richards, senior environmental health specialist with the Saginaw Department of Public Health said that on Friday her department dropped off fliers with information about the state fish consumption advisory at the festival’s fish fry held at the Freeland Sports Zone fitness center. Ocean pollock, not local fish, was served at the fish fry.

On Saturday more fliers were left at a pancake breakfast at the Memorial Park building.

“I think this is the first time that we did do that,” Richards said.

Kory Groetsch, a toxicologist with the Michigan Department of Community Health, said in an interview last week that health officials have historically been unable to rely on festival organizers for help in distributing fish contamination advisories.

Last week, Michigan Messenger reported that the state and Dow reached an impasse in negotiations over the chemical company paying for increased fish advisory signage. Dow has refused to pay for the signs, just as the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality has warned there aren’t enough advisories posted.

“I am not aware of anything further that we will be doing on this,” Mary Draves, a spokeswoman for Dow, said in an interview last week.

Comments

  • Rivermink

    Eartha, we commend your dedication to the fight against pollution and concern for your fellow citizens. In retort to your biased reporting, to create the “spin” that I'm sure would please Rush Limbaugh.
    Your article even slants that our beloved fishing pond is tainted with dangerous fish. A miss use of context to stir the spin pot and create this game that you hope to elevate your article into national status.
    Data is available about the dioxin issue, this is true. Science is what science is…
    Science and reality are again seperate by the line of provable theory. The science on the dioxin issue read from an outsider to our area can be exciting to the fear nerve. The reality is that the science is theory as to how OUR enviroment is behaving. The fear is real no question, but the reality is that our enviroment with the help of Dow chemical and many community acitvists have turned this river basin around and has improved over the last 30yrs, thanks to the help of Dow and all of their effort to repair their past mistakes in judgement.
    The state has manipulated that fear nerve by “tricking” its residents as to believing the dibenzofuran which supposedly adds up over time to act like a dioxin, a theory that has yet to be proven, is THE dioxin in the Tittabawasee river basin. The content is 300 times the recomended amount as to compared to upstream from Dow.
    No story as a report on this issue has ever been printed on this site or any other paper found in this region. It has only been made to hype the fear nerve to excite interest and thus launching the author of such slanted reporting into some kind of recognition.
    I have read the recent blogs about the seven deadly sins, and when slanted reporting is given to favor the author, that is called vanity. Last time I checked, vanity is the WORST of such sins for it places the so called person in violation of the First Commandment; For that person becomes an idol of themselve and places them before truth and integrity those elements found in our Holy Spirit. Which is no different than Rush Limbaugh…
    The next time you chose to slant facts and details to excite half truth into histeria, maybe you should learn from the previous lesson.

    Learn about what your hate truly is, if you don't you will become that which you despise.

    We need more honest intentions within our media like yourself to be recognized, but don't play the spin game to elevate half truth as THE truth and only the truth especially when there is always two sides to every story.

    Maybe you should write a retort and apology to all whom you have offended with the spin you have created just to get the name “Eartha” elevated into national recognition as the best enviromental activist reporter.

    Maybe your ethics would dictate this, or maybe not.

    I won't hold my breath, that would stop me from enjoying the delicious Walleye found in this river.

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  • Inform

    What a crock Rivermink. Please cite your peer reviewed scientific sources.

  • Inform

    Oh Rivermink,
    I have no doubt you eat lots and lots of fish from below the Dow dam.

    I look forward to those peer reviewed scientific sources of information from you. I won't hold my breath, however, in that I think you may pull a Leonard and ignore requests for information.

  • Rivermink

    With the benefit of Leonard, he has given you two to three resources to follow. One from U of M and another from MSU. I am not taking the time to give you for the third web site.
    The banter can go back and forth from here to the end, until you may recognize that these professionals have contributed solid scientiffic data that support what we from this area feel and believe about the successfull turn around the Tittabawasee river has seen. That is to say that it is not perfect, but it is getting better with the efforts through Dow and local activists who are as passionate as yourselves about OUR area.
    The arrogance that is portrayed even from the comment : “Oh Rivermink,
    I have no doubt you eat lots and lots of fish from below the Dow dam.”
    Precludes that maybe you are unwilling to accept that what has been written through scientiffic research is acceptable according to your terms.
    You want to say that Dioxin is deadly, there is no doubt that it is.
    But you cannot say that Dioxin is the dominate poison in the waters that we live by, especially when its effects have not been seen over a four to five year study of over 30,000 samples gathered from the wild life of this area, fish, mink, otters, birds. All of which are very succeptable to the dangers you wish to insinuate, the fact remains that this data isn't seen in those samples that have been gathered. This is found in the MSU study.
    The facts are as they are, you can accept them or not that is your choice and I have no power over that…
    But I can maybe portray to you good and honest side to hopefully bring your mind into a state of openness by realizing that maybe a possibility that what you wish to portray of what is going on according to your terms may just not be the 100 percent truth.
    The truth is the river IS getting better, a wildlife rebound has taken place over the last 20yrs has been remarkable as to the endangered bald eagle that has even returned. The fish stocks are higher every year, the mink and the otter are at their highest numbers over that time and the bird population is thriving. The cancer numbers of old are on the decline.
    So when you want to capitalize on half truth like those individuals whom I am sure that you despise as I do, you do not seperate yourself from them you act just like them.
    So don't even pretend that you KNOW more than we do, do not talk about OUR area as if YOU know and we don't. The fact is that we have a GREAT area to live in, things may not be perfect but you give me any example that is, look into your heart first and say maybe I am wrong then maybe just maybe your doubt will control the animosity you wish to sell to profit yourself.
    The fact is that this story is a dead issue until next year when the Walleye fest begins again as it does every year.
    You can mold and twist and slant all you can to get this info out into the open public and God Bless you for it, IT needs to happen. But don't try to defame or diminish the efforts that exist within your stories to elevate yourself, in the end you will diminish your character and you will remain as you are, in obscurity.

  • MikeLily

    OH but that this were just an issue for Frreeland. But it is not. It is an issue for the Tittabawassee River, Saginaw River and Saginaw Bay. It is not just dioxin and furans but a whole host of other chemicals produced by Dow that are moving to Lake Huron……Would suggest folks look beyond the studies paid for by Dow Chemical for information on these chemicals in the river.

    Shame on the Lions Clubs for donning those hats which read dioxin my ass. Veterans are compensated for diabetes and subsequent blindness from exposure to agent orange/dioxin during service in the Vietnam War. We all know the good work Lions Clubs do for the blind- they are to be commended. Too bad the Freeland's Lions Club is so short sighted because it undermines the good work I am sure they do.

  • Rivermink

    Mike, I speak only of the Tittabawasee river. You yourself can go and talk to anyone who fishes in the Saginaw river and into the Bay and ask them if they are afraid of eating the fish they catch. I have eaten many meals from those areas and have even fed them to my wife and children. Nothing has happened, no vomitting, no cancer. I have known people that have fished those areas for over 40 to 50yrs, during the time of the worst contamination levels, and they do not have cancer either.
    I agree with the warnings of the levels and the amount of fish we should eat and I myself have followed every warning. So the fish and waters ARE safe, they aren't pristine, but they are safe.
    Keep your fear to yourself, and the Lion's club will feel no shame on this matter or according to the hats, we feel responsibly committed to this issue and we know that it is serious, but not as serious as some would like to portray, like the state who's only intent is not only for the safety of its citizens, but to change rules to gather it more wealth, especially in a state of trouble as it now lives.
    Dow has been convicted, they are trying to make ammends, but the state will not release its will upon its self defined gravy train. Maybe the state could have been more involved long ago and we wouldn't even have this conversation.
    Maybe you can give me a fact of indisputable evidence according to the dioxin levels in the animals and its impact upon the enviroment, how its in our water supply and people are dying from it. Then the Lion's will feel the shame, until then maybe it is you who want to believe so much that the world is dying around them and forget about the life that does exist and the good that is around and hope for tomorrow to be better through action. That very same action Dow is involved in right now. Stop living in the past and look for tomorrow, stop whinning about yesterday and move into today where WE need your passion, use that energy to come with ways to make the hope for tomorrow real.
    The world IS alive, and within that life is a whole lot of good, part of that good the Freeland Lion's club is positioned to act for tomorrow's hope, whether you believe that or not.

  • Inform

    Rivermink,
    The U of M study, as previously mentioned in another link you responded to by sarcasm, showed the following below. They did not look at health impacts. As an aside, Leonard misrepresented the results of that study for some strange reason:
    Key Study Findings About Blood
    “Eating fish from the Tittabawassee River, Saginaw River, and Saginaw Bay also leads to higher levels of dioxins in blood”
    “People who live in some regions of Midland/Saginaw have higher levels of dioxin in their blood than people in Jackson/Calhoun”
    “People who have higher dioxin in their soil, have a higher TEQ and higher levels of some dioxins in their blood”
    “People who have higher levels of dioxins in their household dust have higher levels of one of the specifi dioxins (PCB-118) in their blood”
    “In some cases there is a direct relationship between higher levels of dioxins in soil and higher levels of dioxins in peopl's blood. This relationship is small and applies to some, but not all of the specific dioxins”
    “Other factors, some of which are related to contamination in Midland/Saginaw are more important than living on properties with contaminated soil or with contaminated household dust. These include eating fish, recreational activities, and occupation.”
    “People who eat fish from the Tittabawassee River, Saginaw River, and Saginaw Bay have higher levels of dioxins in their blood than people who do not eat fish from these areas. Most of these people live in Midland/Saginaw”.
    “People who do recreational activities in the Tittabawassee River, Saginaw River and Saginaw Bay have higher levels of dioxins in their blood than people who do not do recreational activities in these area”

    I'm not as well versed in the Michigan State studies. However, am aware of other peer reviewed scientific studies showing abnormalities in various wildlife with respect to dioxin/furans. What would be interesting to see would be if the Michigan State studies are considered an anomaly with a review of the scientific literature.

    I do not recall stating that the river had not improved from decades ago so don't quite understand why you brought up such a defense. Furthermore, I do not recall stating there aren't other contaminants in that river/watershed.

    I note the following from your post and am amazed at the assumptions you made (there's a saying about assumptions, you know):
    You wrote: “So don't even pretend that you KNOW more than we do, do not talk about OUR area as if YOU know and we don't.

    My family has been in this area, your area, for hundreds of years-before Dow came to visit by the way. So don't get all holier than though regarding my not knowing this area.

  • Rivermink

    Inform,
    I don't deny that the report says what it does. The report which is older than the MSU study may show these results. The MSU study was done to show its impact upon the enviroment. The 30,000 plus data samples gathered over 4 yrs show that the evidence of the impact upon the enviroment. Which shows with concrete evidence that there is NO impact upon the enviroment. There is no crossover effect upon the fish the birds, the mink or the otter.
    With my observation, I have witnesses more fish being caught each year in our tournament, I have seen many birds that I never knew were even around here, I have seen so many otter and mink that I was spell bound that they even existed here, knowing the history of the river.
    If you say that people and animals and the enviroment have more of this substance that is undisputable and I wouldn't even contend against it. What I have stated is what is the result?
    What has it done?
    Where is the evidence?
    Yes it may be more in this area, just like any other part of the globe people often reflect the enviroment and its positive and negative affects upon them.
    We have Dow, the bad Dow from the past, today they have changed, they are working to improve. I have seen info and have witnessed that it has improved. Is it the way it should be, no, but it is getting better.
    If your family has lived here for 300 years then maybe you should go and live on the reservation and capitalize from free education and find a course of study that may be able to clean this river to your standards.
    I highly encourage that you find this path for it would be more honest.
    As for today and spinning information to excite a group of people who are susceptable to the fear mongering because they just don't know any better. That is called deception and the shame falls upon you.
    Assemble a group of people, please, gather them to your account and then go to Freeland to say what you want.
    But be open that maybe, just maybe the firm stance that you hold may just have holes. Your facts are true, but the fact remains IS the result. The result is not seen or felt and there is a study that says exactly that, maybe you should familiarize yourself with that info and then start writing its result.

    It doesn't matter what the answers are if the wrong questions are being asked.

    Your questions are old hat, yesterdays news…
    The right question is what we can do about this info?
    Then look to Dow and the state and see that they are working to improve what has been done.
    Then ask the people if they have seen the result of these data stats upon their families or their land. Are they just responding to numbers or what the numbers mean.
    Are they allowed to define what those numbers mean to them instead of the state who again is interested in gaining wealth from a very successful corporation and the life source of this area and its people whom they employ to make this area a place where people want to live.
    Not to defend Dow as my employer because they are not, but to defend them on everything they have done for this area good and bad. I know about their history, but I live in the present and I see all that they are doing in the here in now to ammend that history and make tomorrow a better place for everyone.
    Maybe your next interview should be with the state and ask them how they have mishandled the money that Dow gave them to their speciffic request to put signs on the river and they didn't achieve that goal and came back and asked Dow for more money…
    Dow said no and rightfully so…
    Again another exposed spin in your article that has been misrepresented by yourself and the state…
    So we all have more of this poison than other people, but maybe we are immune to it by now?
    Maybe that is why we aren't dropping like flies in the sun according to these numbers presented.
    This as it stands is not an assumption, because as it stands it is more true to the life that lives than the fear that is presented.
    Prove me wrong…

  • Inform

    Rivermink,
    Parts of your writing are somewhat incoherent. For example, you speak of “my article”. I don't understand this-are you assuming I'm the writer of these pieces? That would be incorrect.

    I am well aware of the Natural Resource Damage Assessment being completed for the region secondary to contamination of a variety of toxins and adverse effects on the environment as a result from Dow. I'm also quite aware of the health stats in this area and also their limitations in missing people who die out of the area after retiring or moving. I'm familiar with the Midland Health Department's flawed study that had issues with cohorts and dilution-in essence validity.

    I'm also familiar with soil samples that are being kept from the public in the City of Midland by being sequestered at a private attorney's office not subject to FOIA. Oh, I've seen the Dow studies from decades ago, as well, that have been misrepresented.

    So while you may feel Dow has atoned for the damage they wrought on this area, I do not. They've dragged their feet in cleaning up the dioxin contaminated watershed for decades-all with politician approval and support. I will say that Dow most certainly has improved their emissions and waste practices as a result of requirements by the EPA and DEQ.

    This area has higher breast cancer and diabetes rates. Lymphoma rates are also interesting. A certain zipcode has higher overall cancer rates (priority one area). I'm actually in the process of doing a comparative analysis from the stats available. There isn't reportable miscarraige information so that data is unavailable for analysis.

    The report from U of M was a completely different study than was done by MSU so I don't even understand how you can logically possibly compare them. The U of M study looked at the dioxin blood levels between two populations-those in the Midland Plume/Floodplain and those in Jackson/Calhoun and not health impacts. The MSU study evaluates wildlife of the floodplain and whether they have problems that have been identified in other studies i.e. lesions in mink, weights, etc.

    I really resent your implications of my being a newcomer to this area in your preceeding post (where I come from, if your family hasn't been here for at least 150 years, you're considered a newcomer) and also your accusation that shame should come to me secondary to fearmongering when I present facts. I also find it interesting you assigned an arbitrary number of years my family has been here along with an ethnicity and I believe a slam on Native Americans by mentioning reservations and free education. I also resent your questioning my honesty, when I present facts vs gobblygook and lies on what studies demonstrate. I suspect I have much more information than you, who wishes to minimize the contamination of the area and shame people into not promoting public health and accountability for a solution to this mess which has essentially been allowed to languish for decades.

    I'm glad that you follow fish advisories by the way. Personally, I wouldn't eat a thing from that river down from the Dow Dam. Dow has an obligation to post accurate signs at that park with respect to fish consumption advisories and dioxin. Your justifying them not doing so is abominable to me and others who value science and the public's right to information protective of their health.

    You speak of Dow as though it a person with a conscience. It is a corporation not a person. It's interests are in making money for stockholders. That corporation has been heavily involved in lobbying and protecting it's financial interests. The longer cleanup is delayed, the better for their pocketbook. It is unacceptable that this contamination has existed for decades without a remedy.

  • Rivermink

    Freedom of information act.
    You can get them…
    Administration with anti-corporate views you can get their endorsement.
    If you are so proud of your longevity in this area advertise it.
    It's amazing with how long your family has been here and still have to blame a corporation for everything wrong in the world, that is fine.

    Corporations are entitled to citizen rights, that is the law. Most of them are schizophrenic people according the demands of their will, the wills of a unmanaged child.

    Those afflictions you mention have been higher in this area but are decreasing on their per capita rating. There are more factors involved than just one that is the cause of these serious issues.

    I would never say that Dow has atoned, but I will say that they are working for it to be better.

    If honesty and integrity are on your side then the cause will come forward and penance will be served.
    Follow your heart and you will win.

    As for me, my family, my friends, we will remain happy and serve a justice that is in front of us. All is good, and good is a matter of perspective.

    I have read two voices with the tag Inform on this blog. You can hide behind these blogs, that is your choice, clearly you are the writer with your defense of info and what you want to present.

    So I am correct.

    As for now this is a dead issue.
    The news rests in your hands if you are so aware of this information that is being with held. If you know then it is your responsibility to bring it forward for justice, it may be yours alone.
    I will wait for this news to arrive. If it is intentionally being mis represented then the law will be on your side.
    Rivermink out!

  • Inform

    Thanks Rivermink,
    Those soil samples cannot be obtained through FOIA through the City of Midland which has them at an offsite attorneys office not subject to FOIA. They have,however, been released through FOIA by the EPA .

    Just so you know, I wouldn't even have brought up my family's history in this area. It was your assumption that I was some kind of an outsider and a play on that false belief to try and put me in my place that I decided to let you know you didn't know what you were talking about.

    I don't blame Dow for all the problems here. They are, however, responsible for the majority of contamination to the soils and river. I have an issue with the public being deliberately manipulated by the omission of information and spin on existing studies to keep people uninformed and ignorant (lies of commission and omission).

    Until next time, Rivermink.

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    It is nice that you brought up this issue. You've mentioned that they also conducted a poker tournament on one of the Chevrolet dealership. I think to further prevent the spread of this toxic danger, the Chevrolet dealership you've mentioned and all other establishments which became part of the festivities should be informed by the local government regarding this matter.

  • innova

    It is nice that you brought up this issue. You've mentioned that they also conducted a poker tournament on one of the Chevrolet dealership. I think to further prevent the spread of this toxic danger, the Chevrolet dealership you've mentioned and all other establishments which became part of the festivities should be informed by the local government regarding this matter.