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	<title>Comments on: Dow-sponsored Walleye Fest to donate contaminated fish to the poor</title>
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		<title>By: Depression Symptoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depression Symptoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donating contaminated fish is against professional ethics I guess. This should not be practiced.</description>
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		<title>By: Depression Symptoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depression Symptoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donating contaminated fish is against professional ethics I guess. This should not be practiced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donating contaminated fish is against professional ethics I guess. This should not be practiced.</p>
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		<title>By: Inform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lenheinz,&lt;br&gt;Please provide your peer reviewed references with your assertions regarding dioxin contamination and public health effects.  Also, if you&#039;ve got some stats from people leaving Dow and retiring to other locales, dying there and their death certificates, I&#039;d appreciate those.  How many are diagnosed with nonhodkins lymphoma that grew up here and worked at Dow?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(I&#039;m very well read on peer reviewed scientific literature on dioxin, so look forward to your providing me with additional references substantiating your claims)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My nonscientific opinion is that there is no doubt that testosterone in area males has been adversely affected as most seem to lack cajones in addressing group think and looking at peer reviewed scientific literature (you are aware it is an endocrine disruptor, right).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenheinz,<br />Please provide your peer reviewed references with your assertions regarding dioxin contamination and public health effects.  Also, if you&#39;ve got some stats from people leaving Dow and retiring to other locales, dying there and their death certificates, I&#39;d appreciate those.  How many are diagnosed with nonhodkins lymphoma that grew up here and worked at Dow?  </p>
<p>(I&#39;m very well read on peer reviewed scientific literature on dioxin, so look forward to your providing me with additional references substantiating your claims)</p>
<p>My nonscientific opinion is that there is no doubt that testosterone in area males has been adversely affected as most seem to lack cajones in addressing group think and looking at peer reviewed scientific literature (you are aware it is an endocrine disruptor, right).</p>
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		<title>By: Inform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,&lt;br&gt;I didn&#039;t see them state Lion&#039;s club were donating fish.  If your walleye tests similar to farm-raised salmon, that is a very bad thing not a good thing, as farm-raised salmon are highly contaminated. in comparison with fresh water salmon.  I wouldn&#039;t feed a dog that stuff.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is disgraceful that a body of water that Dow wants categorized as a Superfund is the site where people are donating fish from it to the poor.  Why isn&#039;t Dow serving their execs and themselves that fish?  Even more disturbing that MidMichigan Health would condone such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />I didn&#39;t see them state Lion&#39;s club were donating fish.  If your walleye tests similar to farm-raised salmon, that is a very bad thing not a good thing, as farm-raised salmon are highly contaminated. in comparison with fresh water salmon.  I wouldn&#39;t feed a dog that stuff.  </p>
<p>It is disgraceful that a body of water that Dow wants categorized as a Superfund is the site where people are donating fish from it to the poor.  Why isn&#39;t Dow serving their execs and themselves that fish?  Even more disturbing that MidMichigan Health would condone such.</p>
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		<title>By: dogwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know enough about local studies to draw conclusions. However, the way lenheinz_1 speaks about how it is safe, nobody has gotten sick, and its just a bunch of  corporate hate-mongering subversive extremists wasting valuable resources sounds much like the citizens of a little place called Libby, Montana. For years whenever environmentalists and government agencies tried to bring to light the health risks caused by the local mining industry that the community was completely dependent on economically, they were referred to in similar ways. It always seemed that the community was provided with a series of corporate sponsored tests &quot;proving&quot; the inaccuracy  of charges of environmental dangers that may have resulted from corporate activities. That is, until more than 200 folks died and over 1000 were diagnosed with lung disease. The company then abandoned the town leaving them not only economically bankrupt but sick and dying. .Something to think about..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know enough about local studies to draw conclusions. However, the way lenheinz_1 speaks about how it is safe, nobody has gotten sick, and its just a bunch of  corporate hate-mongering subversive extremists wasting valuable resources sounds much like the citizens of a little place called Libby, Montana. For years whenever environmentalists and government agencies tried to bring to light the health risks caused by the local mining industry that the community was completely dependent on economically, they were referred to in similar ways. It always seemed that the community was provided with a series of corporate sponsored tests &#8220;proving&#8221; the inaccuracy  of charges of environmental dangers that may have resulted from corporate activities. That is, until more than 200 folks died and over 1000 were diagnosed with lung disease. The company then abandoned the town leaving them not only economically bankrupt but sick and dying. .Something to think about..</p>
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		<title>By: rickpetes</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickpetes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lenheinz1, Are a member of the local chamber of commerce?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lenheinz1, Are a member of the local chamber of commerce?</p>
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		<title>By: rick11789</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick11789</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be quite a story if it were true, but it isn;t. The Freeland Lioins club have never donated fish from this tournament to any food bank or anyone for that matter. It is funny that the Michigan DNR considers the fishery in the Saginaw Bay watershed to be a great success story while the Michigan Department of Health grinds whole fish trying to keep the numbers high enough to still include walleye in thier advisories. People I know filet their fish and remove the mud viens. Even with this deception our walleyey test the same as farm raised salmon you can buy in your local store.Eartha come see us this weekend, and see how a great community enjoys the outdoors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be quite a story if it were true, but it isn;t. The Freeland Lioins club have never donated fish from this tournament to any food bank or anyone for that matter. It is funny that the Michigan DNR considers the fishery in the Saginaw Bay watershed to be a great success story while the Michigan Department of Health grinds whole fish trying to keep the numbers high enough to still include walleye in thier advisories. People I know filet their fish and remove the mud viens. Even with this deception our walleyey test the same as farm raised salmon you can buy in your local store.Eartha come see us this weekend, and see how a great community enjoys the outdoors.</p>
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		<title>By: upnorthMI</title>
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		<dc:creator>upnorthMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that the Freeland Lions Club has gotten tangled up in a controversy regarding a community service and event they provide.  At the same time, lets not completely ignore intelligent thought when discussing the dioxin pollution that exists in the Saginaw and Tittabawassee rivers.  While lenheinz1 claims that this is all a big conspiracy, I would urge you to consider the findings of such medical organizations such as The American Diabetes Association, The American Journal of Epidemiology, and many others who have studies the effects of dioxin contaminates in our environment for decades.  They post conclusive studies of human contamination effects ranging from Hodgkin&#039;s disease, non-Hodgkin&#039;s Lymphoma, Leukemia, Diabetes, chronic respiratory and cardiovascular diseases, as well as increased occurences of rectal and lung cancer and other birth defects, to name a few.  I would say to call such effects of dioxin as &quot;inconsequetial and tiring&quot; is an insult,&lt;br&gt;Now, are these millions of medical professional worldwide all part of this anticorporate hate mongering conspiracy?  I think that their interests, as well as mine, are more concerned with the human health impacts to our communities and families.  &lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t believe that this was intended to disparage a community or organization, merely an attempt to bring attention to a serious public health issue, even if it was done with an attention-grabbing and shocking title.&lt;br&gt;I believe that the Lions organizations around the world, do wonderful and generous things for our communities, as I&#039;m sure yours does also.  But also try to keep an open mind about how such an event could have unintentional and harmful consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that the Freeland Lions Club has gotten tangled up in a controversy regarding a community service and event they provide.  At the same time, lets not completely ignore intelligent thought when discussing the dioxin pollution that exists in the Saginaw and Tittabawassee rivers.  While lenheinz1 claims that this is all a big conspiracy, I would urge you to consider the findings of such medical organizations such as The American Diabetes Association, The American Journal of Epidemiology, and many others who have studies the effects of dioxin contaminates in our environment for decades.  They post conclusive studies of human contamination effects ranging from Hodgkin&#39;s disease, non-Hodgkin&#39;s Lymphoma, Leukemia, Diabetes, chronic respiratory and cardiovascular diseases, as well as increased occurences of rectal and lung cancer and other birth defects, to name a few.  I would say to call such effects of dioxin as &#8220;inconsequetial and tiring&#8221; is an insult,<br />Now, are these millions of medical professional worldwide all part of this anticorporate hate mongering conspiracy?  I think that their interests, as well as mine, are more concerned with the human health impacts to our communities and families.  <br />I don&#39;t believe that this was intended to disparage a community or organization, merely an attempt to bring attention to a serious public health issue, even if it was done with an attention-grabbing and shocking title.<br />I believe that the Lions organizations around the world, do wonderful and generous things for our communities, as I&#39;m sure yours does also.  But also try to keep an open mind about how such an event could have unintentional and harmful consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: lenheinz1</title>
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		<dc:creator>lenheinz1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rhetoric concerning the dioxin issue in our area has become tiring and inconsequential as far as the vast majority of citizens in our area are concerned.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We now have another anti-corporate biased diatribe hitting the web links concerning the Walleye Festival held yearly in our community.  The Freeland Lions Club has held the annual Walleye festival for 24 years and it has grown to become the premier event in our area.  We are extremely proud of our accomplishments and the help we are able to provide to our community through the funds raised during our festival.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The age old arguments concerning the safety of eating fish caught in our area have been brought up again and again.  Even though the Journal of the American Medical Association documents the fact that the health benefits of eating fish far out weigh any concerns of contamination we still live with the stigma.  Everyone is aware of the fish advisories and the cautions put forth by the Michigan Department of Community Health.  Every fisherman I have ever talked to uses the advisories to keep janitors employed by throwing them in the trash the minute they are received.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It continues to be hard to fathom why individuals would continue to disparage the image of our communities and state given the horrible situation we find ourselves in.  	NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN HARMED BY DIOXIN IN OUR AREA.  Prove otherwise and maybe you will have some legitimacy.  There are no widespread high levels of dioxin in our population and we have studies to prove it.  What is very troublesome is the lack of individual thought within our governmental regulatory bodies such as the EPA and MDEQ.  What a breath of fresh air it would be if an intelligent person within one of these agencies would actually break ranks and confirm the compelling evidence, we have in hand, that dioxin is not a threat to our population.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While it has become apparent that our elected officials, our local newspapers, and community groups want this issue to go away we still have the stubborn faction that thrives on the dark side of data.  Their cup is always half empty instead of half full.  As a proud Freeland Lion Club member I will continue to try my best to provide help to those less fortunate in our area.  Our festival gives us that leverage and we continue to grow despite the subversive efforts such as this little article in the Michigan Messenger.  What does that tell you?  We would never do anything as a result of our efforts that would put the public health in jeopardy.  To have a sneaky little article such as this insinuate that we knowingly are doing this is sick perverted journalism at its worst.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please take your inconsequential efforts and corporate hatemongering somewhere else where real problems exist.  The money being wasted on this issue has reached the point where people are disgusted knowing that it could have been spent on so many other worthwhile projects.  We do have real problems in our society and environment.  This is not one of them, but is symptomatic of the misguided mindset that causes wastefulness and serves only to massage the ego of a few extremists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rhetoric concerning the dioxin issue in our area has become tiring and inconsequential as far as the vast majority of citizens in our area are concerned.</p>
<p>We now have another anti-corporate biased diatribe hitting the web links concerning the Walleye Festival held yearly in our community.  The Freeland Lions Club has held the annual Walleye festival for 24 years and it has grown to become the premier event in our area.  We are extremely proud of our accomplishments and the help we are able to provide to our community through the funds raised during our festival.  </p>
<p>The age old arguments concerning the safety of eating fish caught in our area have been brought up again and again.  Even though the Journal of the American Medical Association documents the fact that the health benefits of eating fish far out weigh any concerns of contamination we still live with the stigma.  Everyone is aware of the fish advisories and the cautions put forth by the Michigan Department of Community Health.  Every fisherman I have ever talked to uses the advisories to keep janitors employed by throwing them in the trash the minute they are received.  </p>
<p>It continues to be hard to fathom why individuals would continue to disparage the image of our communities and state given the horrible situation we find ourselves in.  	NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN HARMED BY DIOXIN IN OUR AREA.  Prove otherwise and maybe you will have some legitimacy.  There are no widespread high levels of dioxin in our population and we have studies to prove it.  What is very troublesome is the lack of individual thought within our governmental regulatory bodies such as the EPA and MDEQ.  What a breath of fresh air it would be if an intelligent person within one of these agencies would actually break ranks and confirm the compelling evidence, we have in hand, that dioxin is not a threat to our population.</p>
<p>While it has become apparent that our elected officials, our local newspapers, and community groups want this issue to go away we still have the stubborn faction that thrives on the dark side of data.  Their cup is always half empty instead of half full.  As a proud Freeland Lion Club member I will continue to try my best to provide help to those less fortunate in our area.  Our festival gives us that leverage and we continue to grow despite the subversive efforts such as this little article in the Michigan Messenger.  What does that tell you?  We would never do anything as a result of our efforts that would put the public health in jeopardy.  To have a sneaky little article such as this insinuate that we knowingly are doing this is sick perverted journalism at its worst.  </p>
<p>Please take your inconsequential efforts and corporate hatemongering somewhere else where real problems exist.  The money being wasted on this issue has reached the point where people are disgusted knowing that it could have been spent on so many other worthwhile projects.  We do have real problems in our society and environment.  This is not one of them, but is symptomatic of the misguided mindset that causes wastefulness and serves only to massage the ego of a few extremists.</p>
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