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	<title>Comments on: Flint&#8217;s David Dicks: Police chief or fashion police?</title>
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		<title>By: Adidas Sunglasses</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/1621/flints-david-dicks-police-chief-or-fashion-police/comment-page-1#comment-11627</link>
		<dc:creator>Adidas Sunglasses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with sagging” or below the waist and butt it is not crime so why did arrest them. Its a fashion style I disagree on that Law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with sagging” or below the waist and butt it is not crime so why did arrest them. Its a fashion style I disagree on that Law.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolle Ski Goggles</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/1621/flints-david-dicks-police-chief-or-fashion-police/comment-page-1#comment-6824</link>
		<dc:creator>Bolle Ski Goggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think that its good to arrest those people who just wearing pants in hips, cause it s their fashion, it can be done if the one who wears it, looks like a criminal, it maybe reasonable. on the other side, they can be arrested because of their public display and they look like prisoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#39;t think that its good to arrest those people who just wearing pants in hips, cause it s their fashion, it can be done if the one who wears it, looks like a criminal, it maybe reasonable. on the other side, they can be arrested because of their public display and they look like prisoners.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACLU&#039;s stated mission is the protection of Constitutional guarantees related to:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   &quot; * Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.&lt;br&gt;    * Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.&lt;br&gt;    * Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.&lt;br&gt;    * Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is the problem in Flint really that the ACLU is defending freedom of expression, or that the culture of Flint has not demanded parents set and enforced better standards of behavior for their children, let alone for themselves?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s look at the case of Kayla Renee Holland in neighboring Mt. Morris; what were the root causes of Kayla&#039;s untimely death?  Conservatives objected to the examination of the culture that made guns so readily available, or the issues that kept the 6-year-old classmate who shot Kayla from spending more time with healthy adults.  Are the underlying issues that resulted in Kayla&#039;s death also the same ones that underpin a far more minor challenge like &quot;sagging&quot;?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a mother I&#039;ll tell you that the ACLU is not the problem.  It&#039;s the lack of personal responsibility on the part of individuals and the community as a whole, and the glorification of negative behaviors combined with a systemic lack of deep examination and critical thought.  Blaming an organization for protecting Constitutional rights is the easy way out, a method for avoiding personal and societal blame which does virtually nothing to solve the problems of Flint let alone those of the rest of this state and our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACLU&#39;s stated mission is the protection of Constitutional guarantees related to:</p>
<p>   &#8221; * Your First Amendment rights &#8211; freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.<br />    * Your right to equal protection under the law &#8211; equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.<br />    * Your right to due process &#8211; fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.<br />    * Your right to privacy &#8211; freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is the problem in Flint really that the ACLU is defending freedom of expression, or that the culture of Flint has not demanded parents set and enforced better standards of behavior for their children, let alone for themselves?  </p>
<p>Let&#39;s look at the case of Kayla Renee Holland in neighboring Mt. Morris; what were the root causes of Kayla&#39;s untimely death?  Conservatives objected to the examination of the culture that made guns so readily available, or the issues that kept the 6-year-old classmate who shot Kayla from spending more time with healthy adults.  Are the underlying issues that resulted in Kayla&#39;s death also the same ones that underpin a far more minor challenge like &#8220;sagging&#8221;?</p>
<p>As a mother I&#39;ll tell you that the ACLU is not the problem.  It&#39;s the lack of personal responsibility on the part of individuals and the community as a whole, and the glorification of negative behaviors combined with a systemic lack of deep examination and critical thought.  Blaming an organization for protecting Constitutional rights is the easy way out, a method for avoiding personal and societal blame which does virtually nothing to solve the problems of Flint let alone those of the rest of this state and our country.</p>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support the new intervention through this law.  Perhaps for our culture it needs to be updated. I am the mother of 12 children (6/6). This fashion statement  amongst others is both distracting and tempting. It is the same as walking around in ones underwear or less at times. &lt;br&gt;To say that David Dicks is carrying some grudge for the death of his son is inappropriate and dishonest. He obviously is a man seeking to make a statement about appropriateness of behavior to a generation that has looked the other way and their children who do not know the definition of self respect and consideration for others. It is sad that any money is being spent on arguing this ridiculous battle. People, please stand up for the right and invest in the building of America&#039;s character. Our countries lack of integrity screams in the streets and the ACLU too often is deafening the ears of those who need to hear the most......our children.....our future. The ACLU supports all that is destroying this nation and cry freedom as the defense. Freedom also expresses itself by consideration for others and recognizing your influences on those younger not just gaining your own freedom for questionable behavior. These are familial principles missing in this nation who has embraced abandonment of marriage and parenting commitment for personal expression and freedom supported by the ACLU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support the new intervention through this law.  Perhaps for our culture it needs to be updated. I am the mother of 12 children (6/6). This fashion statement  amongst others is both distracting and tempting. It is the same as walking around in ones underwear or less at times. <br />To say that David Dicks is carrying some grudge for the death of his son is inappropriate and dishonest. He obviously is a man seeking to make a statement about appropriateness of behavior to a generation that has looked the other way and their children who do not know the definition of self respect and consideration for others. It is sad that any money is being spent on arguing this ridiculous battle. People, please stand up for the right and invest in the building of America&#39;s character. Our countries lack of integrity screams in the streets and the ACLU too often is deafening the ears of those who need to hear the most&#8230;&#8230;our children&#8230;..our future. The ACLU supports all that is destroying this nation and cry freedom as the defense. Freedom also expresses itself by consideration for others and recognizing your influences on those younger not just gaining your own freedom for questionable behavior. These are familial principles missing in this nation who has embraced abandonment of marriage and parenting commitment for personal expression and freedom supported by the ACLU.</p>
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		<title>By: beaware</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/1621/flints-david-dicks-police-chief-or-fashion-police/comment-page-1#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>beaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;big dicks, little brains&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;chief&#039; dicks is don the con&#039;s 2nd worse joke played on Flint.wanna know the 1st???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>big dicks, little brains</strong> &#8220;chief&#39; dicks is don the con&#39;s 2nd worse joke played on Flint.wanna know the 1st???</p>
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		<title>By: beaware</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/1621/flints-david-dicks-police-chief-or-fashion-police/comment-page-1#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>beaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;big dicks, little brains&lt;/strong&gt; &quot;chief&#039; dicks is don the con&#039;s 2nd worse joke played on Flint.wanna know the 1st???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>big dicks, little brains</strong> &#8220;chief&#8217; dicks is don the con&#8217;s 2nd worse joke played on Flint.wanna know the 1st???</p>
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