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	<title>Comments on: Solutions to AIG&#8217;s bonuses? Death or taxes</title>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-17903</link>
		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where were you and your reporters?  I mean, you and your reporters are paid to cover that kind of stuff - I&#039;m not.  So you ask your readers - where they were covering something you could have uncovered?  And had you found it then, it&#039;d no doubt have embarrassed R&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Turns out that Democrat Senator Chris Dodd is the guy who slipped the language in there.  And he received $108,000 from AIG in campaign donations.  Where were you then ... and now ... on that issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You blame your readers - and the world - for not knowing as if they have deep inside access to that. What a bizarro world you see.  In reality, Tim Geitner knew weeks ago but never disclosed it publicly until it happened - O&#039;Bama has broken all of his transparency promises (bill waiting periods the most relevant here).  Gary Peters voted for a bill he didn&#039;t have time to read or investigate - that&#039;s why his faux outrrage is misplaced. He demands AIG employees admit their moral responsibility - unless he at least admits his own while doing that, its hypocritical.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where were you then?  Where everyone else was - in the non-transparent dark.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where are we now on government spending?  In the dark - until its too late to do anything about the open barn doors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll admit to you that now-out-of-power Republicans share some historical culpability, but that not the issue of who had the &quot;last clear chance&quot; to stop this accident, as the term of legal art would suggest.  It also doesn&#039;t represent real change - shifting blame is politics as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were you and your reporters?  I mean, you and your reporters are paid to cover that kind of stuff &#8211; I&#39;m not.  So you ask your readers &#8211; where they were covering something you could have uncovered?  And had you found it then, it&#39;d no doubt have embarrassed R&#39;s.</p>
<p>Turns out that Democrat Senator Chris Dodd is the guy who slipped the language in there.  And he received $108,000 from AIG in campaign donations.  Where were you then &#8230; and now &#8230; on that issue.</p>
<p>You blame your readers &#8211; and the world &#8211; for not knowing as if they have deep inside access to that. What a bizarro world you see.  In reality, Tim Geitner knew weeks ago but never disclosed it publicly until it happened &#8211; O&#39;Bama has broken all of his transparency promises (bill waiting periods the most relevant here).  Gary Peters voted for a bill he didn&#39;t have time to read or investigate &#8211; that&#39;s why his faux outrrage is misplaced. He demands AIG employees admit their moral responsibility &#8211; unless he at least admits his own while doing that, its hypocritical.</p>
<p>Where were you then?  Where everyone else was &#8211; in the non-transparent dark.</p>
<p>Where are we now on government spending?  In the dark &#8211; until its too late to do anything about the open barn doors.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll admit to you that now-out-of-power Republicans share some historical culpability, but that not the issue of who had the &#8220;last clear chance&#8221; to stop this accident, as the term of legal art would suggest.  It also doesn&#39;t represent real change &#8211; shifting blame is politics as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-11881</link>
		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where were you and your reporters?  I mean, you and your reporters are paid to cover that kind of stuff - I&#039;m not.  So you ask your readers - where they were covering something you could have uncovered?  And had you found it then, it&#039;d no doubt have embarrassed R&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Turns out that Democrat Senator Chris Dodd is the guy who slipped the language in there.  And he received $108,000 from AIG in campaign donations.  Where were you then ... and now ... on that issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You blame your readers - and the world - for not knowing as if they have deep inside access to that. What a bizarro world you see.  In reality, Tim Geitner knew weeks ago but never disclosed it publicly until it happened - O&#039;Bama has broken all of his transparency promises (bill waiting periods the most relevant here).  Gary Peters voted for a bill he didn&#039;t have time to read or investigate - that&#039;s why his faux outrrage is misplaced. He demands AIG employees admit their moral responsibility - unless he at least admits his own while doing that, its hypocritical.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where were you then?  Where everyone else was - in the non-transparent dark.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where are we now on government spending?  In the dark - until its too late to do anything about the open barn doors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll admit to you that now-out-of-power Republicans share some historical culpability, but that not the issue of who had the &quot;last clear chance&quot; to stop this accident, as the term of legal art would suggest.  It also doesn&#039;t represent real change - shifting blame is politics as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were you and your reporters?  I mean, you and your reporters are paid to cover that kind of stuff &#8211; I&#39;m not.  So you ask your readers &#8211; where they were covering something you could have uncovered?  And had you found it then, it&#39;d no doubt have embarrassed R&#39;s.</p>
<p>Turns out that Democrat Senator Chris Dodd is the guy who slipped the language in there.  And he received $108,000 from AIG in campaign donations.  Where were you then &#8230; and now &#8230; on that issue.</p>
<p>You blame your readers &#8211; and the world &#8211; for not knowing as if they have deep inside access to that. What a bizarro world you see.  In reality, Tim Geitner knew weeks ago but never disclosed it publicly until it happened &#8211; O&#39;Bama has broken all of his transparency promises (bill waiting periods the most relevant here).  Gary Peters voted for a bill he didn&#39;t have time to read or investigate &#8211; that&#39;s why his faux outrrage is misplaced. He demands AIG employees admit their moral responsibility &#8211; unless he at least admits his own while doing that, its hypocritical.</p>
<p>Where were you then?  Where everyone else was &#8211; in the non-transparent dark.</p>
<p>Where are we now on government spending?  In the dark &#8211; until its too late to do anything about the open barn doors.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll admit to you that now-out-of-power Republicans share some historical culpability, but that not the issue of who had the &#8220;last clear chance&#8221; to stop this accident, as the term of legal art would suggest.  It also doesn&#39;t represent real change &#8211; shifting blame is politics as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-5018</link>
		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where were you and your reporters?  I mean, you and your reporters are paid to cover that kind of stuff - I&#039;m not.  So you ask your readers - where they were covering something you could have uncovered?  And had you found it then, it&#039;d no doubt have embarrassed R&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Turns out that Democrat Senator Chris Dodd is the guy who slipped the language in there.  And he received $108,000 from AIG in campaign donations.  Where were you then ... and now ... on that issue.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You blame your readers - and the world - for not knowing as if they have deep inside access to that. What a bizarro world you see.  In reality, Tim Geitner knew weeks ago but never disclosed it publicly until it happened - O&#039;Bama has broken all of his transparency promises (bill waiting periods the most relevant here).  Gary Peters voted for a bill he didn&#039;t have time to read or investigate - that&#039;s why his faux outrrage is misplaced. He demands AIG employees admit their moral responsibility - unless he at least admits his own while doing that, its hypocritical.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where were you then?  Where everyone else was - in the non-transparent dark.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where are we now on government spending?  In the dark - until its too late to do anything about the open barn doors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll admit to you that now-out-of-power Republicans share some historical culpability, but that not the issue of who had the &quot;last clear chance&quot; to stop this accident, as the term of legal art would suggest.  It also doesn&#039;t represent real change - shifting blame is politics as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where were you and your reporters?  I mean, you and your reporters are paid to cover that kind of stuff &#8211; I&#39;m not.  So you ask your readers &#8211; where they were covering something you could have uncovered?  And had you found it then, it&#39;d no doubt have embarrassed R&#39;s.</p>
<p>Turns out that Democrat Senator Chris Dodd is the guy who slipped the language in there.  And he received $108,000 from AIG in campaign donations.  Where were you then &#8230; and now &#8230; on that issue.</p>
<p>You blame your readers &#8211; and the world &#8211; for not knowing as if they have deep inside access to that. What a bizarro world you see.  In reality, Tim Geitner knew weeks ago but never disclosed it publicly until it happened &#8211; O&#39;Bama has broken all of his transparency promises (bill waiting periods the most relevant here).  Gary Peters voted for a bill he didn&#39;t have time to read or investigate &#8211; that&#39;s why his faux outrrage is misplaced. He demands AIG employees admit their moral responsibility &#8211; unless he at least admits his own while doing that, its hypocritical.</p>
<p>Where were you then?  Where everyone else was &#8211; in the non-transparent dark.</p>
<p>Where are we now on government spending?  In the dark &#8211; until its too late to do anything about the open barn doors.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll admit to you that now-out-of-power Republicans share some historical culpability, but that not the issue of who had the &#8220;last clear chance&#8221; to stop this accident, as the term of legal art would suggest.  It also doesn&#39;t represent real change &#8211; shifting blame is politics as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne1</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-5006</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the persons who voted for the first $85 billion in exchange for 79.9% equity stake last September also didn&#039;t perform thorough due diligence -- that includes the Treasury Secretary and Fed Reserve Chair who pushed the package -- since the &quot;retention bonuses&quot; were on the books for over a year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where were you then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the persons who voted for the first $85 billion in exchange for 79.9% equity stake last September also didn&#39;t perform thorough due diligence &#8212; that includes the Treasury Secretary and Fed Reserve Chair who pushed the package &#8212; since the &#8220;retention bonuses&#8221; were on the books for over a year.</p>
<p>Where were you then?</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-4999</link>
		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The utter hypocrisy of Peters on this one stinks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He voted for the package.  He didn&#039;t read it.  He agreed with the president that the package should be rushed fast and again, didn&#039;t read.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He should Tax all Congressman who make more than $100,000 and voted for the bill at 100% tax rate before he tries to turn his own steaming lump of dung into political gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The utter hypocrisy of Peters on this one stinks.</p>
<p>He voted for the package.  He didn&#39;t read it.  He agreed with the president that the package should be rushed fast and again, didn&#39;t read.</p>
<p>He should Tax all Congressman who make more than $100,000 and voted for the bill at 100% tax rate before he tries to turn his own steaming lump of dung into political gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Schumer to AIG: Give back the bonuses or we’ll tax them away</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-4996</link>
		<dc:creator>Schumer to AIG: Give back the bonuses or we’ll tax them away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gender, or religion. Sounds like the point is moot, though, as they’ll probably draft the bill broadly enough to hit any company that falls within its narrow parameters: Rep. Gary Peters (D-Michigan) submitted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gender, or religion. Sounds like the point is moot, though, as they’ll probably draft the bill broadly enough to hit any company that falls within its narrow parameters: Rep. Gary Peters (D-Michigan) submitted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Schumer to AIG: Give back the bonuses or we&#8217;ll tax them away</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-4995</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Schumer to AIG: Give back the bonuses or we&#8217;ll tax them away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or religion. Sounds like the point is moot, though, as they&#8217;ll probably draft the bill broadly enough to hit any company that falls within its narrow parameters: Rep. Gary Peters (D-Michigan) submitted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or religion. Sounds like the point is moot, though, as they&#8217;ll probably draft the bill broadly enough to hit any company that falls within its narrow parameters: Rep. Gary Peters (D-Michigan) submitted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/14838/solutions-to-aigs-bonuses-death-or-taxes/comment-page-1#comment-4994</link>
		<dc:creator>John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all of these targeted bills like the one that Rep. Gary Peters wrote. Hmm...only applies to firms in which the U.S. government holds an equity stake greater than 79 percent? Why not just make it apply to firms who sponsor sports teams in the city of Manchester, England? Yet another reason why &lt;a href=&quot;http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-politicians-should-be-kept-far-away.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;politicians should be kept far away from AIG&lt;/a&gt; - they&#039;re bound to make a bad situation infinitely worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all of these targeted bills like the one that Rep. Gary Peters wrote. Hmm&#8230;only applies to firms in which the U.S. government holds an equity stake greater than 79 percent? Why not just make it apply to firms who sponsor sports teams in the city of Manchester, England? Yet another reason why <a href="http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-politicians-should-be-kept-far-away.html" rel="nofollow">politicians should be kept far away from AIG</a> &#8211; they&#39;re bound to make a bad situation infinitely worse.</p>
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