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	<title>Comments on: Gay leaders concerned about abstinence-only education grants</title>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-26778</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I get involved in helping to change sex education to tell the truth . Teenagers do not respond to scare tactics and parents should have a choice whether or not they want to risk the abstinece olny program, or the real deal program, the latter being the one that could potentionally save their lives and give them the info and tools to make better decisions.  Teenagers have been having sex since the beginning of time and will untill the end of time. It&#039;s homones and thats not going to change. Young people 13 -24 make up 20% of new hiv infections each year in this country.  Abstinence only is not working.  How Can I get involved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I get involved in helping to change sex education to tell the truth . Teenagers do not respond to scare tactics and parents should have a choice whether or not they want to risk the abstinece olny program, or the real deal program, the latter being the one that could potentionally save their lives and give them the info and tools to make better decisions.  Teenagers have been having sex since the beginning of time and will untill the end of time. It&#39;s homones and thats not going to change. Young people 13 -24 make up 20% of new hiv infections each year in this country.  Abstinence only is not working.  How Can I get involved?</p>
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		<title>By: 2starchy</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-17817</link>
		<dc:creator>2starchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get a little hot under the collar myself...thus the 2starchy moniker.  Thanks for YOUR calm, quiet reply...mine maybe wasn&#039;t so much, and I&#039;m sorry.  Many beloved gays  (some relatives, too) in my life as well,  but i also have teenaged daughters for whom i hope abstinence is an overriding thought.  Parenting in this day and age is so challenging (because, as we all know, it was a breeze for our parents, ha!) , and we all just want what is best for those we love. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Irregardless of our points of vew, I guess it&#039;s always easier when the powers that be are singing out of the same hymnal  (so to speak) as mom and dad :), and I feel it&#039;s hard to find many voices of reason out there.  ( Reason, of course, being ideas that are just like mine, tee hee)     Some conservatives are thus because we weren&#039;t very conservative in our youth and have paid dearly for poor choices made in a different mindset, or have seen the emotional and physical effects on friends and loved ones of a too-free lifestyle, but the far right is just as scary to me as the far left.  Too many agendas out there at either end of the spectrum, and few that really align with what I&#039;m trying to teach my kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Sorry for rambling, time for sleep!  Have a good one, beaware, and thanks for writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get a little hot under the collar myself&#8230;thus the 2starchy moniker.  Thanks for YOUR calm, quiet reply&#8230;mine maybe wasn&#39;t so much, and I&#39;m sorry.  Many beloved gays  (some relatives, too) in my life as well,  but i also have teenaged daughters for whom i hope abstinence is an overriding thought.  Parenting in this day and age is so challenging (because, as we all know, it was a breeze for our parents, ha!) , and we all just want what is best for those we love. </p>
<p> Irregardless of our points of vew, I guess it&#39;s always easier when the powers that be are singing out of the same hymnal  (so to speak) as mom and dad :), and I feel it&#39;s hard to find many voices of reason out there.  ( Reason, of course, being ideas that are just like mine, tee hee)     Some conservatives are thus because we weren&#39;t very conservative in our youth and have paid dearly for poor choices made in a different mindset, or have seen the emotional and physical effects on friends and loved ones of a too-free lifestyle, but the far right is just as scary to me as the far left.  Too many agendas out there at either end of the spectrum, and few that really align with what I&#39;m trying to teach my kids.</p>
<p> Sorry for rambling, time for sleep!  Have a good one, beaware, and thanks for writing!</p>
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		<title>By: beaware</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-17816</link>
		<dc:creator>beaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the insight, and it is appreciated. sometimes the only way&lt;br&gt;the wheel gets greased is to squeak loudly, in a rusticated turn of&lt;br&gt;words. my point, I believe was made to those who needed to hear it. I&lt;br&gt;hope. I have an adopted Son who is Gay, and have seen first hand some&lt;br&gt;of the BS he has to deal with on a daily, so I tend to be a little hot&lt;br&gt;under the collar. Many Thanks to You for a calm and quiet reasoning,&lt;br&gt;Cheers! k.----oh, will look at the link sent also-thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the insight, and it is appreciated. sometimes the only way<br />the wheel gets greased is to squeak loudly, in a rusticated turn of<br />words. my point, I believe was made to those who needed to hear it. I<br />hope. I have an adopted Son who is Gay, and have seen first hand some<br />of the BS he has to deal with on a daily, so I tend to be a little hot<br />under the collar. Many Thanks to You for a calm and quiet reasoning,<br />Cheers! k.&#8212;-oh, will look at the link sent also-thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: 2starchy</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-11703</link>
		<dc:creator>2starchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get a little hot under the collar myself...thus the 2starchy moniker.  Thanks for YOUR calm, quiet reply...mine maybe wasn&#039;t so much, and I&#039;m sorry.  Many beloved gays  (some relatives, too) in my life as well,  but i also have teenaged daughters for whom i hope abstinence is an overriding thought.  Parenting in this day and age is so challenging (because, as we all know, it was a breeze for our parents, ha!) , and we all just want what is best for those we love. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Irregardless of our points of vew, I guess it&#039;s always easier when the powers that be are singing out of the same hymnal  (so to speak) as mom and dad :), and I feel it&#039;s hard to find many voices of reason out there.  ( Reason, of course, being ideas that are just like mine, tee hee)     Some conservatives are thus because we weren&#039;t very conservative in our youth and have paid dearly for poor choices made in a different mindset, or have seen the emotional and physical effects on friends and loved ones of a too-free lifestyle, but the far right is just as scary to me as the far left.  Too many agendas out there at either end of the spectrum, and few that really align with what I&#039;m trying to teach my kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Sorry for rambling, time for sleep!  Have a good one, beaware, and thanks for writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get a little hot under the collar myself&#8230;thus the 2starchy moniker.  Thanks for YOUR calm, quiet reply&#8230;mine maybe wasn&#39;t so much, and I&#39;m sorry.  Many beloved gays  (some relatives, too) in my life as well,  but i also have teenaged daughters for whom i hope abstinence is an overriding thought.  Parenting in this day and age is so challenging (because, as we all know, it was a breeze for our parents, ha!) , and we all just want what is best for those we love. </p>
<p> Irregardless of our points of vew, I guess it&#39;s always easier when the powers that be are singing out of the same hymnal  (so to speak) as mom and dad :), and I feel it&#39;s hard to find many voices of reason out there.  ( Reason, of course, being ideas that are just like mine, tee hee)     Some conservatives are thus because we weren&#39;t very conservative in our youth and have paid dearly for poor choices made in a different mindset, or have seen the emotional and physical effects on friends and loved ones of a too-free lifestyle, but the far right is just as scary to me as the far left.  Too many agendas out there at either end of the spectrum, and few that really align with what I&#39;m trying to teach my kids.</p>
<p> Sorry for rambling, time for sleep!  Have a good one, beaware, and thanks for writing!</p>
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		<title>By: beaware</title>
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		<dc:creator>beaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the insight, and it is appreciated. sometimes the only way&lt;br&gt;the wheel gets greased is to squeak loudly, in a rusticated turn of&lt;br&gt;words. my point, I believe was made to those who needed to hear it. I&lt;br&gt;hope. I have an adopted Son who is Gay, and have seen first hand some&lt;br&gt;of the BS he has to deal with on a daily, so I tend to be a little hot&lt;br&gt;under the collar. Many Thanks to You for a calm and quiet reasoning,&lt;br&gt;Cheers! k.----oh, will look at the link sent also-thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the insight, and it is appreciated. sometimes the only way<br />the wheel gets greased is to squeak loudly, in a rusticated turn of<br />words. my point, I believe was made to those who needed to hear it. I<br />hope. I have an adopted Son who is Gay, and have seen first hand some<br />of the BS he has to deal with on a daily, so I tend to be a little hot<br />under the collar. Many Thanks to You for a calm and quiet reasoning,<br />Cheers! k.&#8212;-oh, will look at the link sent also-thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: 2starchy</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-5469</link>
		<dc:creator>2starchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get a little hot under the collar myself...thus the 2starchy moniker.  Thanks for YOUR calm, quiet reply...mine maybe wasn&#039;t so much, and I&#039;m sorry.  Many beloved gays  (some relatives, too) in my life as well,  but i also have teenaged daughters for whom i hope abstinence is an overriding thought.  Parenting in this day and age is so challenging (because, as we all know, it was a breeze for our parents, ha!) , and we all just want what is best for those we love. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Irregardless of our points of vew, I guess it&#039;s always easier when the powers that be are singing out of the same hymnal  (so to speak) as mom and dad :), and I feel it&#039;s hard to find many voices of reason out there.  ( Reason, of course, being ideas that are just like mine, tee hee)     Some conservatives are thus because we weren&#039;t very conservative in our youth and have paid dearly for poor choices made in a different mindset, or have seen the emotional and physical effects on friends and loved ones of a too-free lifestyle, but the far right is just as scary to me as the far left.  Too many agendas out there at either end of the spectrum, and few that really align with what I&#039;m trying to teach my kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Sorry for rambling, time for sleep!  Have a good one, beaware, and thanks for writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get a little hot under the collar myself&#8230;thus the 2starchy moniker.  Thanks for YOUR calm, quiet reply&#8230;mine maybe wasn&#39;t so much, and I&#39;m sorry.  Many beloved gays  (some relatives, too) in my life as well,  but i also have teenaged daughters for whom i hope abstinence is an overriding thought.  Parenting in this day and age is so challenging (because, as we all know, it was a breeze for our parents, ha!) , and we all just want what is best for those we love. </p>
<p> Irregardless of our points of vew, I guess it&#39;s always easier when the powers that be are singing out of the same hymnal  (so to speak) as mom and dad :), and I feel it&#39;s hard to find many voices of reason out there.  ( Reason, of course, being ideas that are just like mine, tee hee)     Some conservatives are thus because we weren&#39;t very conservative in our youth and have paid dearly for poor choices made in a different mindset, or have seen the emotional and physical effects on friends and loved ones of a too-free lifestyle, but the far right is just as scary to me as the far left.  Too many agendas out there at either end of the spectrum, and few that really align with what I&#39;m trying to teach my kids.</p>
<p> Sorry for rambling, time for sleep!  Have a good one, beaware, and thanks for writing!</p>
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		<title>By: beaware</title>
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		<dc:creator>beaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the insight, and it is appreciated. sometimes the only way&lt;br&gt;the wheel gets greased is to squeak loudly, in a rusticated turn of&lt;br&gt;words. my point, I believe was made to those who needed to hear it. I&lt;br&gt;hope. I have an adopted Son who is Gay, and have seen first hand some&lt;br&gt;of the BS he has to deal with on a daily, so I tend to be a little hot&lt;br&gt;under the collar. Many Thanks to You for a calm and quiet reasoning,&lt;br&gt;Cheers! k.----oh, will look at the link sent also-thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the insight, and it is appreciated. sometimes the only way<br />the wheel gets greased is to squeak loudly, in a rusticated turn of<br />words. my point, I believe was made to those who needed to hear it. I<br />hope. I have an adopted Son who is Gay, and have seen first hand some<br />of the BS he has to deal with on a daily, so I tend to be a little hot<br />under the collar. Many Thanks to You for a calm and quiet reasoning,<br />Cheers! k.&#8212;-oh, will look at the link sent also-thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: 2starchy</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-5466</link>
		<dc:creator>2starchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beaware,  I think you&#039;re missing something...the cartoon listed above is not by an abstinence-only website...it is a satire by someone who wants to make people who disagree with her look like idiots.  So, lighten up...no religious zealots here.   As for &quot;reality-based programs&quot;, I&#039;m continually amazed at the extremism on both sides of the fence.     Here&#039;s an interesting read for those who might consider themselves open-minded:    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.makeasoundchoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/john-randolph-letter.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.makeasoundchoice.com/wp-content/uploads/200...&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beaware,  I think you&#39;re missing something&#8230;the cartoon listed above is not by an abstinence-only website&#8230;it is a satire by someone who wants to make people who disagree with her look like idiots.  So, lighten up&#8230;no religious zealots here.   As for &#8220;reality-based programs&#8221;, I&#39;m continually amazed at the extremism on both sides of the fence.     Here&#39;s an interesting read for those who might consider themselves open-minded:    <a href="http://www.makeasoundchoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/john-randolph-letter.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.makeasoundchoice.com/wp-content/uploads/200.." rel="nofollow">http://www.makeasoundchoice.com/wp-content/uploads/200..</a>..</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne1</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-4179</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the myth of the welfare queen continues...unless, of course, you&#039;re talking about AIG and Citigroup and the other recipients of the $350 billion in federal dollars.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When we have a story on such waste that isn&#039;t being covered by other media effectively, we&#039;ll do it.  In the meantime, here&#039;s one on $1.4 million of waste and on a public official who shows an apparent ignorance inappropriate to his office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the myth of the welfare queen continues&#8230;unless, of course, you&#39;re talking about AIG and Citigroup and the other recipients of the $350 billion in federal dollars.</p>
<p>When we have a story on such waste that isn&#39;t being covered by other media effectively, we&#39;ll do it.  In the meantime, here&#39;s one on $1.4 million of waste and on a public official who shows an apparent ignorance inappropriate to his office.</p>
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		<title>By: cheneygun</title>
		<link>http://michiganmessenger.com/11517/gay-leaders-concerned-about-abstinence-only-education-grants/comment-page-1#comment-4174</link>
		<dc:creator>cheneygun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not write something on welfare queens...that&#039;s a HUGE waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not write something on welfare queens&#8230;that&#39;s a HUGE waste.</p>
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