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	<title>Comments on: Mother in ‘SiCKO’ objects to Gupta nomination</title>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was struck by this phrase in the article, similar to rmpcestmoi&#039;s concern:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“When Dr. Gupta said that Canada has longer waiting times, I felt like I was being made fun of,” Campbell told Michigan Messenger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why would Gupta&#039;s factual assertion on a general issue make her feel &quot;like [she] was being made fun of&quot;.  Give me a break.  If someone disagrees with me on a general factual issue - like waiting times - and I feel like that&#039;s an insult, I&#039;m being unreasonable.  It&#039;s a factual question - its not personal.  This quote is another in a long line of people over-personalizing factual disputes.  There&#039;s a role for factual debate - and I find the parts of this article dealing with that debate interesting - but attacking Gupta because he disagrees with you on some factual point and that makes you feel bad is not an intellectually valid reason to oppose him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that the dispute also revolves around Michael Moore is fascinating.  To believe everything he produces is the holy grail of truth is weird.  He&#039;s a film producer - skilled at the persuasive use of his medium to convey a political viewpoint.  It&#039;s opinion supported with creative video clips, acting, and editing.  He&#039;s no more the holy grail of truth than any columnist or radio talk show host on either side of the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was struck by this phrase in the article, similar to rmpcestmoi&#39;s concern:</p>
<blockquote><p>“When Dr. Gupta said that Canada has longer waiting times, I felt like I was being made fun of,” Campbell told Michigan Messenger.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why would Gupta&#39;s factual assertion on a general issue make her feel &#8220;like [she] was being made fun of&#8221;.  Give me a break.  If someone disagrees with me on a general factual issue &#8211; like waiting times &#8211; and I feel like that&#39;s an insult, I&#39;m being unreasonable.  It&#39;s a factual question &#8211; its not personal.  This quote is another in a long line of people over-personalizing factual disputes.  There&#39;s a role for factual debate &#8211; and I find the parts of this article dealing with that debate interesting &#8211; but attacking Gupta because he disagrees with you on some factual point and that makes you feel bad is not an intellectually valid reason to oppose him.</p>
<p>The fact that the dispute also revolves around Michael Moore is fascinating.  To believe everything he produces is the holy grail of truth is weird.  He&#39;s a film producer &#8211; skilled at the persuasive use of his medium to convey a political viewpoint.  It&#39;s opinion supported with creative video clips, acting, and editing.  He&#39;s no more the holy grail of truth than any columnist or radio talk show host on either side of the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was struck by this phrase in the article, similar to rmpcestmoi&#039;s concern:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“When Dr. Gupta said that Canada has longer waiting times, I felt like I was being made fun of,” Campbell told Michigan Messenger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why would Gupta&#039;s factual assertion on a general issue make her feel &quot;like [she] was being made fun of&quot;.  Give me a break.  If someone disagrees with me on a general factual issue - like waiting times - and I feel like that&#039;s an insult, I&#039;m being unreasonable.  It&#039;s a factual question - its not personal.  This quote is another in a long line of people over-personalizing factual disputes.  There&#039;s a role for factual debate - and I find the parts of this article dealing with that debate interesting - but attacking Gupta because he disagrees with you on some factual point and that makes you feel bad is not an intellectually valid reason to oppose him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that the dispute also revolves around Michael Moore is fascinating.  To believe everything he produces is the holy grail of truth is weird.  He&#039;s a film producer - skilled at the persuasive use of his medium to convey a political viewpoint.  It&#039;s opinion supported with creative video clips, acting, and editing.  He&#039;s no more the holy grail of truth than any columnist or radio talk show host on either side of the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was struck by this phrase in the article, similar to rmpcestmoi&#39;s concern:</p>
<blockquote><p>“When Dr. Gupta said that Canada has longer waiting times, I felt like I was being made fun of,” Campbell told Michigan Messenger.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why would Gupta&#39;s factual assertion on a general issue make her feel &#8220;like [she] was being made fun of&#8221;.  Give me a break.  If someone disagrees with me on a general factual issue &#8211; like waiting times &#8211; and I feel like that&#39;s an insult, I&#39;m being unreasonable.  It&#39;s a factual question &#8211; its not personal.  This quote is another in a long line of people over-personalizing factual disputes.  There&#39;s a role for factual debate &#8211; and I find the parts of this article dealing with that debate interesting &#8211; but attacking Gupta because he disagrees with you on some factual point and that makes you feel bad is not an intellectually valid reason to oppose him.</p>
<p>The fact that the dispute also revolves around Michael Moore is fascinating.  To believe everything he produces is the holy grail of truth is weird.  He&#39;s a film producer &#8211; skilled at the persuasive use of his medium to convey a political viewpoint.  It&#39;s opinion supported with creative video clips, acting, and editing.  He&#39;s no more the holy grail of truth than any columnist or radio talk show host on either side of the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: chetlyzarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chetlyzarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was struck by this phrase in the article, similar to rmpcestmoi&#039;s concern:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“When Dr. Gupta said that Canada has longer waiting times, I felt like I was being made fun of,” Campbell told Michigan Messenger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why would Gupta&#039;s factual assertion on a general issue make her feel &quot;like [she] was being made fun of&quot;.  Give me a break.  If someone disagrees with me on a general factual issue - like waiting times - and I feel like that&#039;s an insult, I&#039;m being unreasonable.  It&#039;s a factual question - its not personal.  This quote is another in a long line of people over-personalizing factual disputes.  There&#039;s a role for factual debate - and I find the parts of this article dealing with that debate interesting - but attacking Gupta because he disagrees with you on some factual point and that makes you feel bad is not an intellectually valid reason to oppose him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that the dispute also revolves around Michael Moore is fascinating.  To believe everything he produces is the holy grail of truth is weird.  He&#039;s a film producer - skilled at the persuasive use of his medium to convey a political viewpoint.  It&#039;s opinion supported with creative video clips, acting, and editing.  He&#039;s no more the holy grail of truth than any columnist or radio talk show host on either side of the aisle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was struck by this phrase in the article, similar to rmpcestmoi&#39;s concern:</p>
<blockquote><p>“When Dr. Gupta said that Canada has longer waiting times, I felt like I was being made fun of,” Campbell told Michigan Messenger.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why would Gupta&#39;s factual assertion on a general issue make her feel &#8220;like [she] was being made fun of&#8221;.  Give me a break.  If someone disagrees with me on a general factual issue &#8211; like waiting times &#8211; and I feel like that&#39;s an insult, I&#39;m being unreasonable.  It&#39;s a factual question &#8211; its not personal.  This quote is another in a long line of people over-personalizing factual disputes.  There&#39;s a role for factual debate &#8211; and I find the parts of this article dealing with that debate interesting &#8211; but attacking Gupta because he disagrees with you on some factual point and that makes you feel bad is not an intellectually valid reason to oppose him.</p>
<p>The fact that the dispute also revolves around Michael Moore is fascinating.  To believe everything he produces is the holy grail of truth is weird.  He&#39;s a film producer &#8211; skilled at the persuasive use of his medium to convey a political viewpoint.  It&#39;s opinion supported with creative video clips, acting, and editing.  He&#39;s no more the holy grail of truth than any columnist or radio talk show host on either side of the aisle.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman feels her concern for her daughter&#039;s health as well as the lack of health care availability are invalidated by Gupta&#039;s comments.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What exactly is the measure of invalidation?  Are you the official arbiter of what is and isn&#039;t legitimate validation or invalidation?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Campbell also said,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“We are supposed to be changing the government making it better and more trustworthy. To put somebody in there who has already blatantly lied to the American people. I think that is wrong,” she said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She THINKS this is wrong, does not just FEEL it.  Do you have an issue with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman feels her concern for her daughter&#39;s health as well as the lack of health care availability are invalidated by Gupta&#39;s comments.</p>
<p>What exactly is the measure of invalidation?  Are you the official arbiter of what is and isn&#39;t legitimate validation or invalidation?</p>
<p>Campbell also said,</p>
<blockquote><p>“We are supposed to be changing the government making it better and more trustworthy. To put somebody in there who has already blatantly lied to the American people. I think that is wrong,” she said.</p></blockquote>
<p>She THINKS this is wrong, does not just FEEL it.  Do you have an issue with that?</p>
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		<title>By: rpmcestmoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpmcestmoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess whzt this is?  Not a story, really.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How this woman &quot;feels&quot; is of no interest.  What she thinks or knows, possibly.  Leave the feelings to the religious right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess whzt this is?  Not a story, really.</p>
<p>How this woman &#8220;feels&#8221; is of no interest.  What she thinks or knows, possibly.  Leave the feelings to the religious right.</p>
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